I am thinking Scout is still not fixed. This remains a very weak suit with no strong points. Running is just as slow. Remote target detection is weak and gives you zero battlefield awareness - as usual, you turn a corner just to see the 6 spinning barrels 6 ft away pointed at your nose. Extremely limited grid, so by the time you get ur shield modules, you cant even carry a damn needle to pick ppl up.
Anyone differs in their opinion? Please, don't say that Scout is awesome for hacking or sniping - any suit with an LAV or a sniping rifle is awesome at those things. Please, limit responses to discussion of combat worthiness of the scout suit.

Scouts are fine. I've got a speedfreak/hacker build that I only use a SMG with and I do okay with it. You just need to be selective about what and how you engage.

Profile dampeners are now a low slot module instead of a high. Work it out.

I'm running a few Scout suits on 2/3 of my characters.

Better than they were in Codex, imo.

I don't know if I want to see them buffed or anything...though I really think all the suits are missing flare. Each class of suit needs unique modules or abilities, to really help define their roles and expand upon their specialization.

I am thinking Scout is still not fixed. This remains a very weak suit with no strong points. Running is just as slow. Remote target detection is weak and gives you zero battlefield awareness - as usual, you turn a corner just to see the 6 spinning barrels 6 ft away pointed at your nose. Extremely limited grid, so by the time you get ur shield modules, you cant even carry a damn needle to pick ppl up.
Anyone differs in their opinion? Please, don't say that Scout is awesome for hacking or sniping - any suit with an LAV or a sniping rifle is awesome at those things. Please, limit responses to discussion of combat worthiness of the scout suit.

I average a 2/1 kdr with a scout smg combo, and it's half the price of my hmg fits which give me 3/1 after 2months of skills invested into them..

You gave an example of turning a corner to find a heavy there. Why don't you turn and run before he can even cast his ring of death crosshair over you? With this faster paced gameplay, scouts are no more powerful, but far more useful. They are the most fun way to play this game to me.

But what advantage does it give you in a battle? You are gonna say you can 'sneak' up on ppl? In the majority of maps there are massive open spaces that you need to cross to get to your target. And unless you enjoy killing unsuspecting snipers - which is a pretty pathetic task imo, you are talking about blindsiding not one but a bunch of squad mates on the oposing team that will most likely see you as you approach (i.e. some ppl are always watching the 6 o'clock of the squad), so you will be seen regardless of a lack of an HUD signature.

Look - bottom line: yes scouts are supposed to be a fast but vulnerable target with good stealth and scanning capabilities. As it stands though - the vulnerability (as compared in HP to other suits) far outweighs the marginal advantages of the scout such as a slightly better scan profile and a touch better sprint.

Ludvig, I've been known to go 20+ kills with around 5-7 deaths in a militia scout shoutgun fit, no if you just run around randomly you die alot, they do require a bit of thought and planning. (where's my next bluedot bait)

A figure is seen in the distance, moving from cover to cover. No HUD marker on them. Can't get a bead because they're dashing quickly between positions. Don't panic, there's a whole group of us, and it's only one maybe-enemy-maybe-friend. They vanish, and don't show up for several seconds. Guess it was nothing.

Suddenly, SHOTGUN BLAST! Someone on your team died. Wasn't in your squad though, nothing to worry about. Although that Shotgun sounded kind of close...

Suddenly, SHOTGUN IN THE BACK!

Squad panics, SHOTGUN TO THE FACE!

Remaining guy or two fire wildly in the general direction of the red dot they finally found, SHOTGUN TO THE... oh kitten, this one's a Heavy...

3/1 is still not bad.

Repeat after me.

Scouts are not front line troops.

They're behind the lines sort of troops.

Yep, sure low profile helps and yes this is exactly how scout is supposed to be played ideally. But in reality with all the current scout weaknesses a situation that you are describing will take place maybe 20% of the time with 80% being failure when going against ppl with experience. When this does happen - sure it's satisfying to be that Zorro guy who pulled it off.

That's a really deep thought, man. please elaborate what exactly should the scout be doing behind the lines? Hacking? Hiding? Sniping? Picking off an odd poor bastid enemy sniper? Do you want to play a scout like that? Do you want to have this job designation of doing all these menial tasks of questionable importance? Most ppl don't and that's why no one really wants to play scout because it's just not that attractive of an option to be a second tier asset to you corp/squad.

let me put it this way.

If you're getting shot at as a scout, you're doing it wrong.

I was running a Shotgun Scout on my alt with level 4 Dropsuit Command, but no other scan profile reduction, and did fairly similar to this scenario a couple of times in one of my battles earlier today. I wasn't an ultimate stealth fitting, and I wasn't on my main, so I didn't have my full stealth skill complement either. I was up against good players, but I can't deny that luck played a major factor. I spawned in good positions several times with teammates watching the enemy from a distance - this resulted in both a distraction to let me sneak up behind said enemy force, AND a better awareness of enemy locations without any need for me to actually move into their line of sight. Friendly snipers (even bad ones) are a Shotgun Scout's best friends.

I've used a more sneaky Shotgun Scout for hit-and-run attacks when I'm backed up by good Logi support.

Don't worry so much about killing everything, just run in, get one fast kill, then fire a couple of blasts while backing up. after a couple of shots, or as soon as anything hurts, turn and run for cover.