There was a game that's in beta still called firefall that had a smart way of mining, I think they should look into some thing like that maybe.

Just ideas rely but I rely think mining should be looked into for dust 514

theres supposed to be an industrial side of things on dust too, but its unclear what thats going to be like right now, and really they should focus on all the FPS aspects for the time being anyway. things like mining and construction will come later.

ok gonna adress this real quick

1 Wrong section of the forum, this thread should be in feedback/sugestions
2 They have stated that you will not stop mid battle and mine. industry will all be passively done, similar to PI in EVE

So, I'm thinking that a lot of this Soon(tm) is down to the PS3 being nearly end of life. If I was CCP I'd be designing Dust for PS4 and using the next year to implement/test and refine the core aspects of the game on the PS3 then when the 4 hits, start adding all the really cool stuff that complicates everything and needs more resources.

But back on topic, mining in Dust? Really? Let the space monkeys do that for us

DUST514 is a first person shooter. Nuff Said?

Yes FPS, but don't be closeminded in it that FPS is all about instant gratification pub matches. And that you just jump in and out of action. There is much more than spawn, shoot, die/kill, spawn.

Lets think outside of the box and not be limited of relic gameplay mode. Lets do something more than same-old-same-old.

The inventory system is now location aware, which paves the way for the introduction of the secondary marketplace.

Yeah because mining sounds more fun than this...

IF i want to spend my time in a video game MIning for minerals I will play Final Fantasy XI or XIV ... WOW.... EQII... (insert another generic MMO)

Yeah because mining sounds more fun than this...

And if that 'miner' is any self-respecting individual he would have paid some mercs to defend that said installation.

Mining is, at least to begin with, going to be a passive process that players don't have direct involvement with. And you can logically argue that EVE mining makes more sense.

in EVE, you're filling the role of a pilot/captain of a starship. That starship's purpose in space is variable. Starship pilots can be warriors, or miners, or traders, or any number of other things. In DUST, you're a Mercenary soldier. You are, by definition, a warrior role first and foremost. EVERYONE in the game has the same basic job. Pretty much, "kill all the things" is going to be your primary mission in any scenario (except when you're a combat medic or other logi/support player).

Having said that, however, it WOULD be good if our characters, being immortal, could train into an alternate profession (or possible more than one), and mining would be a good option.

We SHOULDN'T (and almost certainly WON'T) be going out and manually digging up minerals and ore and things though. What we SHOULD do is have something that works more like the planned-but-still-unrevealed "commander" role, where you're in a command room somewhere (a nearby MCC, or command centre, or a room within the facility), and you're directing the mining robots in gameplay that's mostly separate from the core FPS gameplay.

Just like the battlefield commander role will allow players to have a more RTS-like view of the battlefield, giving orders and directing fire support, maybe while having some measure of control over the team's MCC.

It would be awesome if a commander had direct control over the MCC. It would add a new layer to Skirmish battles. Both teams' MCCs would be fighting one another for the best location above the fight so they can provide a forward spawn in a defensible location, and there would be a difficult decision between focusing fire on the enemy MCC or providing fire support for your ground troops (but with great risk of friendly fire if there are allies anywhere near the blast).

It would be awesome if a commander had direct control over the MCC. It would add a new layer to Skirmish battles. Both teams' MCCs would be fighting one another for the best location above the fight so they can provide a forward spawn in a defensible location, and there would be a difficult decision between focusing fire on the enemy MCC or providing fire support for your ground troops (but with great risk of friendly fire if there are allies anywhere near the blast).

To says they dont want to do it... Uh then don't it won't impact what u do it's just more stuff people can do.

Yes that what you described is also what I would like to see, but it doesen't haveto end there. And yes we are first and foremost a mercenaries. Now. But this is a evolving game. and at the fanfest presentation/keynote? there were hints as well as that a way of mercenary video, that along the way some of us mercenaries would rebell against the idea of being always told what to do and where to go. Hence taking matters to out own hands.

That "hint" from the presentation you're talking about was leading into the idea that DUST players will be running our own corporations and owning territory instead of just fighting on behalf of EVE corporations.

We're starting off with HighSec and Faction Warfare, but later, we'll be able to go into NullSec and start really causing havoc. DUST players will own planets, and we'll be directly involved with shaping the politics of New Eden. EVE players will NEED to hire DUST Mercs (or get them to join their corp/alliance) if they want to control the ground.

There's no indication that we're ever going to be mining things "by hand" so to speak. It seems highly unlikely - both from a gameplay perspective and within EVE/DUST lore, that an enhanced super-soldier would decide "I don't feel like shooting things today, I'll go dig a hole instead" and walk out somewhere, in a combat-ready dropsuit, to do exactly that.

We will be owning planets. To do what? Own planets so that EVE side can hire us to take over or us to disrupt their PI? What there will be for DUST side to own a planet than bragging rights or annoyance for EVE side or ISK from EVE? That is quite a thin gameplay enviroment to look forward.

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And to expand... what is the ISK incentive from DUST side to controll a planet?
What do we get from it?
What activity there is to drive DUST players to capture planet?
If for EVE side, what do they get from planets to be enough if incentive/annoyance to sink up ISK into DUST to make it worthwhile?

And is sure hope it wont be another passive ISK printing machine as "there you go! you controlled this planet for a 1 week, now you get x million ISK as a reward, or x ammount of minerals"

Planet ownership has an impact on system sovereignty.

Planetary control will allow DUST players to manage and profit from facilities on said planets.

There are plenty of resources on planets and DUST Mercs will be able to control the supply of those resources.