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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:20:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote:These problems won't go away at launch. If they do I'll gladly eat my just desserts. But the track record so far is clear as day. This game suffers from the exact same problems all games on the unreal engine suffer from when brought online.
once again you just assume these problems won't be fixed as if you have the power to see the future.
Do you know how hard it is to develop a game? |
Ziot Reitrenner
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:24:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Ziot Reitrenner wrote:These problems won't go away at launch. If they do I'll gladly eat my just desserts. But the track record so far is clear as day. This game suffers from the exact same problems all games on the unreal engine suffer from when brought online. once again you just assume these problems won't be fixed as if you have the power to see the future. Do you know how hard it is to develop a game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XVusao6Mic
Cool story, bro. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote:aden slayer wrote:Ziot Reitrenner wrote:These problems won't go away at launch. If they do I'll gladly eat my just desserts. But the track record so far is clear as day. This game suffers from the exact same problems all games on the unreal engine suffer from when brought online. once again you just assume these problems won't be fixed as if you have the power to see the future. Do you know how hard it is to develop a game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XVusao6MicCool story, bro.
And it was fixed in a patch.
just like what CCP is doing now. |
ArMaGeDoN The Cat
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
157
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:05:00 -
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Stop whining. All the problems you mentioned? FPS, netcode and other things? IS SUPPOSED TO BE RUBBISH IN A BETA, YOU CAN'T AVOID IT, SO STFU AND PLAY THE GAME! Plus, there are MANY REASONS TO USE THE UNREAL ENGINE 3. First, its easy to use, its that simple. Its a very simple engine that works on pretty much every platform. The second is, it would be easier to upgrade to Unreal Engine 4 once its out. Third, if they have future plans for the PC and Xbox, it would be easily portable. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:18:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Exactly why was this game suppose to rejuvenate the Fps genre? Taking a company which has never made an fps and putting them on that high of a pedestal is flawed logic. And exactly how do you know the Ue3 engine isn't just for the beta phase of the game? I'm almost completely sure you've never played this game as if you were qualified to give accurate feedback on this game, it would've been done months ago.
You can't just change the engine like that without completely rewriting the code, it would be the equivalent of starting the game completely from scratch. But yes, Vermaak has a point. As much as your points may be valid with the Unreal 3 Engine, dear Ziot, you are giving CCP way too many expectations and demands. Sure, they have created a succesfull PC MMO that keeps growing every year, but expecting them to create an FPS that would completely rewrite the genre is just ridicilous. This game was meant as a new way to link two completely different games together, not to completely blow everyone's mind with new gameplay mechanics that no one has ever seen before and be the benchmark to all FPS, especially from a developer that has never made an FPS before. So for short, your expectations are way overblown, you give CCP unrealistic demands and just generally exaggarate things. I didn't ask anything of CCP. I'm not the one losing anything when this game launches, they are. If you think for one second that these issues will sort themselves out by release, you're crazy. This game is dead on arrival.
If you truly believe that, hold your opinion until release and critique the game then |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
653
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:30:00 -
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Just a few things OP needs to realise.
This game is being made for the PS4, not the PS3. The PS3 has limitations and is a decade old, alot of the issues you see are because of this, PS4 "should" have PC type processing power.
We are on TEST servers. The servers that run TQ are much better than what Singularity runs on.
Ziot, you also stated this game does nothing original. Then why were you so excited for it? It does alot of original things in the FPS genre, least of all is connecting a persitent PC world to a persistent PS3-4 world, which NO other console game has ever done.
Am I a fanboi of CCP? Not really, I have an EVE account which I started a few months back, thats about it. Is this game "pretty" not atm, but it is addictive and frustrating at the same time. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
363
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:29:00 -
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I'd be curious to know if the guy with SSD is having all these issue, whoever that was should ask him about it. I'm absolutely positive that some of this game's issues are HDD related based on the fact that the last build I didn't notice nearly as much stuttering but my HDD ran so much that it started to rattle and I had to take it out and put it back. Also the texture popping is most probably HDD related.
Also, PS3's cell processor is a beast at some things but it can be difficult to program for if you're not used to it. A lot of times some of the work is offloaded to the GPU since it functions more like what most programmers are used to. I'm going to probably reseat my GPU and maybe add in some good thermal paste and see if that makes a difference. If it does good for me but maybe real bad for the game.
The point is I'm not saying I agree with the OP's assessment that the game is already dead but I am starting to fear that CCP may have a much more difficult job than they anticipated. That means either delays or an inferior product. I'll agree there is some cause for concern but they've pushed the release date back so I'm going to give them some more time before I start getting real worried. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
653
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:10:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:I'd be curious to know if the guy with SSD is having all these issue, whoever that was should ask him about it.
I'm not running an SSD but I am running a Hybrid (4gig SSD) and I see a big difference in load times and texture loading from my old ps3 HDD (I just got Hybrid a few days ago).
I know alot of people in our corp. run SSDs and see the same type of "increased playability" from the old ps3 drives. Some of the maps that had big issues are decent now.
I do eventually get a map that is unplayable, the lag/framerate is just so bad I can't move and I have to restart. It usually is the new shuttlepad/silo map on the old 5pt map. This map has US comms, US Biomass and the new map on it and has been bad for 2 builds, they took it out of the skirmish rotation but left it in the ambush one (makes no sense). This map has a memory leak and is pathetic. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:22:00 -
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I am on the fence regarding these things, because I am not in the know.
But I can see this:
Ziot has stated there are unavoidable flaws with UE3, the ENGINE of the game.
Most replies defending DUST seem to auote it being a work in progress...
But the "WIP" part is the CODE, running on the ENGINE...
If Ziot is indeed right, then you are missing his point. The game is could be the best coded game ever but be flawdd by an engine that is flawed.
An analogy: Ziot is saying, that the earth and foundation of the house CCP is building is fundamentally bad, but the rebuttals try to say, " Bu-bu-bu-bu... The house is going to be really nice looking and full of features and it has strong walls!"
If the foundation of the house is weak, it breaks the house, no matter how much cool stuff or how solid the walls are put together.
The code merely fuels the engine to do what it does. You could put Super Ultra Premium Plus 9000 type fuel in it, but if the engine itself is crap, the car will break down.
See what I mean?
Now, I am not advocating one or the other. I truly don't know to say that the UE3 is unsuitable for this type of game. Maybe Ziot is wrong, or maybe he is right. But I do know that you all were skirting around his fundamental point:
Is DUST doomed to poor performance, bugs, and will it ever reach it's full potential; and was this due to CCP's use of the Unreal Engine 3?
Just trying to steer the debate in the right direction, rather than verbally beating around the bush. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
245
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:59:00 -
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There are doomsayer that predict that the world will end in 2012 ... Why every game has people on the foruns saying "OMG THE GAME IS DEAD!!!!111" Grow up! If you don't enjoy the game, don't play it! |
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L1BERT1NE X
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:05:00 -
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-1 for being shocked by the appearance of the UE3 logo -when it was announced over 2 years ago. Odd that you missed that given your......fervor.
L1BERT1NE X Tastzlike chicken |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:27:00 -
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Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread. |
1CLIP 1KILL
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:39:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote:IdTech3 would have been the optimal choice, in my opinion. If you want a smooth game, with a consistent feel to it. It's the same game engine used to make the Call of Duty 4 multiplayer engine, which has been used in everysingle Call of Duty game since 4.
I have noticed a pattern recently on forums. It appears as though many people who make comments about FPS games haven't played any on console (or at all) for the past five years. CoD MW3 uses the MW3 engine. Black Ops (1) uses IW engine. Black Ops 2 uses Black Ops 2 engine. Please guys, if you haven't played the games, just wiki them. I double-checked the google just to be sure I didn't look like an asshat too.
Anyways, the thing that made me check out this game is because they are using Ue. Sure, I'm probably a snobby gamer, but I wouldn't have tried a FPS game MMORPG devs made from the ground up, w/o a friend telling me it was good. id Tech (notice the lower case i) is alright. They are on 5 now btw, not 3 (for id). Someone else said it before, but this gen. of consoles is old. Ue4 is supposed to be sweet, and geared towards consoles. id tech 3-5 is tired, and I don't know how close id tech 6 is. Ue4 was already shown off to a few devs.
I'll admit, I haven't played a number of Ue3 games on console, but I have heard that they are full of problems. However, it seemed like they had problems because console hardware is kind of lame. I played games like Unreal Tournament 3 on PC and they were amazing. That's when CoD4 came out, and unfortunately other FPS games didn't really stand a chance against CoD4.
It seems obvious, but beta games are in beta for a reason. Clearly, your thoughts are relevant beta or not, because I am pretty sure they will release on Ue, but I have also noticed that some gamers have trouble differentiating between beta problems and, say, engine problems. But seriously dude, id Tech 3??? That was so ten to twelve years ago =/. This game will never be on the PS2.
Edit: I'm loling pretty hard right now. I haven't played games that ran on id Tech 3 in so long! I remember playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault with my little brother on my XBOX. Just XBOX, no 360! |
Aerion Spiritus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:23:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I was reading this out loud to my brother and we were laughing. So much caps lock, so much exaggeration, so much rage. I especially enjoyed the part about FPS on consoles not being a "legitimate" genre, whatever that means. You ranting on doesn't help the game improve, you said nothing constructive that can actually help. I also enjoy the part about you playing for 3 months, never once coming to the forums to report bugs or provide feedback, and then finally coming here for whatever this is to call the devs incompetent. You show that you have no interest in actually helping the game improve. Console FPS is a joke. This game was supposed to change everything. The entire genre of FPS has been ruined by these slow console shooters. This game was supposed to be different, and not because I had this image in my head of what this game was SUPPOSED to be. The game as it currently stands is well designed, but it's always going to be flawed, and the TRUE issues with the game will NEVER be undone. Unreal Engine 3 is a BAD engine for online FPS. Especially on consoles. This game has atrocious graphics, horrible stuttering framerates, and borderline unacceptable rubber-banding. There are issues with ALL unreal engine games on consoles. This was supposed to be an FPS from one of the best PC developers of ALL time. The only MMO developers that have managed to grow their MMO consistently every single year of its existence. They are using an engine notorious for being subpar for online games with FAR less detail/players/interactions than Dust 514. especially on consoles. To use this garbage engine on a game of THIS SCALE, is absolutely mind boggling. They chose a graphics showcase engine to deliver a mass scale, online FPS. If you don't see the problem with this, and the problems with the game in general. You can't be reasoned with. Period. This game has every right to play as smoothly as Call of Duty, or any retail FPS it has the potential to be FAR superior to all of those games. Especially considering the fantastic addition of keyboard and mouse controls. This game deserves FAR better than Unreal 3. CCP will not be able to fix the issues with this game in time for launch, or ever. That's the nature of the beast. This game will forever be left to the dustbin of failure, because of such a subpar engine choice. If you can prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt that this game will run at AT LEAST 30 frames per second when it leaves beta and hits launch, I will shut my damn mouth. I waited 3 months to get into this beta. My god damn heart sank when I saw that damn unreal engine 3 logo. I immediately expected the worst, and my fears were confirmed within 10 seconds of playing this game. This is the biggest gaming related disappointment I've ever experienced. I am not even exaggerating. How could a dev like CCP choose graphics over SMOOTH GAMEPLAY? It doesn't make any god damn sense, man.
You seem to be forgetting that this game is being designed to last as long as Eve, which is planned for another decade at least. The developers are also going to port it to PlayStation 4 when it is released, assuming people like you don't make the game seem so crap that they cancel it before then. You sir are also overly picky, I have played FPS's on my pc with a frame rate of 10-15 and beaten them on the hardest difficulty. If they can get a game like this to run at 25 fps, then kudos to them for they have met the minimum fps rate expected by me and hundreds of others who just want to play it for the game play and style of it. -Aeroslicer |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread.
Nice way to throw in that jab...
Off topic, but there is still much debate and physical evidence AGAINST evolution, as much as proponents deny it. While arguments can be very flawed especially in the fervent christian community, there are also very good arguments against it.
Personally, I believe in adaptation and natural selection, but find that that gaps between species and the whole concept of a common ansestor presents to o many holes in the theory.
In other words, I believe in a mix of the valid parts of the theory, and also my christian beliefs that support it. Labelin every christian that way os quite a stereotype and sweepin generalization. |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:19:00 -
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Wow. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet. There.is absolutely .nothing constructive here.
Quite your bitchin |
L1BERT1NE X
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:37:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread. Nice way to throw in that jab... Off topic, but there is still much debate and physical evidence AGAINST evolution, as much as proponents deny it. While arguments can be very flawed especially in the fervent christian community, there are also very good arguments against it. Personally, I believe in adaptation and natural selection, but find that that gaps between species and the whole concept of a common ansestor presents to o many holes in the theory. In other words, I believe in a mix of the valid parts of the theory, and also my christian beliefs that support it. Labelin every christian that way os quite a stereotype and sweepin generalization.
Wow, not even close. There is no debate; there are denialists. Not only are there no good arguments against evolution - there are no tenable ones. A very vocal minority speak loudly, are funded by fundamentalist kooks, and are given a media venue to spew their claims; -this does NOT mean there is a controversy.
There are 150 years of converging lines of evidence all strongly supporting evolution. To pretend otherwise is indicative of some other agenda or a very special kind of ignorance.
There is no excuse for this anymore; 30 minutes with a high school textbook other than one vetted by the Texas Board of Education should at least give you a vague sense of being on the wrong side of this "argument" . It is no longer 1950....not that this kind of drivel was acceptable then.... |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.12.10 00:04:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread. Nice way to throw in that jab... Off topic, but there is still much debate and physical evidence AGAINST evolution, as much as proponents deny it. While arguments can be very flawed especially in the fervent christian community, there are also very good arguments against it. Personally, I believe in adaptation and natural selection, but find that that gaps between species and the whole concept of a common ansestor presents to o many holes in the theory. In other words, I believe in a mix of the valid parts of the theory, and also my christian beliefs that support it. Labelin every christian that way os quite a stereotype and sweepin generalization.
He never said all Christians were like that. I'm not sure you understand the level of scrutiny and evidence required for something to be accepted as a theory in the scientific community. A theory could amass evidence supporting it for hundreds of years, but If one piece of legitimate evidence arises that contradicts that theory, then the theory is no longer seen as valid, or needs to be revised to fix the parts shown to be incorrect. If there was any real evidence against evolution, then the theory would be revised, or thrown out. |
Talnos Nosslu
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:01:00 -
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Sorry OP, but I disagree. Perhaps its the coding behind their engine, but as it exists right now is nowhere near optimal.
You seem a tad obsessed with the idea they're using the wrong engine. Also, CCP isn't one of the triple-A developers, just one of the more profound. If you would say a developer like Blizzard, then I would be inclined to agree. But whatever.
Just so you know, OP, we're all here sharing whatever pain you're blaring at us right now. We all know there's a lot that needs to be done. Outright calling the game a failure has to rest on more reasons than just the engine alone. We are nonetheless better inclined to pity your suffering than empathize with it. |
Ziot Reitrenner
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:08:00 -
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CCP deserves to know why their game won't hold a fanbase.
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Talnos Nosslu
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:23:00 -
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Well, I just offered a proposal to the dilemma. Much better than simply ranting and exhausting people to read subjective hatred towards a game we're trying to help build. Also, note that Mass Effect 3 also uses the UE3 engine with multiplayer. Check this forum for my thread. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
363
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:28:00 -
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To whoever asked if it was confirmed that unreal 3 would be the engine used at launch and maybe they'll change it I have one word for you: Daikatana. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:14:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread. Nice way to throw in that jab... Off topic, but there is still much debate and physical evidence AGAINST evolution, as much as proponents deny it. While arguments can be very flawed especially in the fervent christian community, there are also very good arguments against it. Personally, I believe in adaptation and natural selection, but find that that gaps between species and the whole concept of a common ansestor presents to o many holes in the theory. In other words, I believe in a mix of the valid parts of the theory, and also my christian beliefs that support it. Labelin every christian that way os quite a stereotype and sweepin generalization.
I did not say all christians are like that. I just happen to notice that a certain sect of them understand the book of genesis as if it's meant to be read in literal terms (I'm Gnostic and I read it in allegorical or symbolic terms only). Perhaps it's the Orthodox Christians I was referring to.
Anyways, that's besides the point. I was merely using the Christian argument to point out how willfully ignorant the OP is at this moment. I can understand the many flaws with Dust 514, but that doesn't mean I'm obligated to see the whole thing as a glass that is half empty. I see the glass half full instead. But it's not just the amount of water in the container that matters. What about the chemical make up of the glass itself? It's shape maybe? Or how tall is that glass? Is the water being filled slowly or quickly? That's how I see Dust.
Unfortunately for the OP, he just decided to stick with seeing the glass as just destroyed or non-existent. We already provided our valid arguments regarding the Unreal Engine. So far the OP has already made up his mind. There is no convincing him. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Obviously this OP has already made up his mind and will only accept doom and gloom for DUST. It's like a Christian evangelical constantly denying evolution regardless of physical proof.
I'm through talking to this guy on this thread. Nice way to throw in that jab... Off topic, but there is still much debate and physical evidence AGAINST evolution, as much as proponents deny it. While arguments can be very flawed especially in the fervent christian community, there are also very good arguments against it. Personally, I believe in adaptation and natural selection, but find that that gaps between species and the whole concept of a common ansestor presents to o many holes in the theory. In other words, I believe in a mix of the valid parts of the theory, and also my christian beliefs that support it. Labelin every christian that way os quite a stereotype and sweepin generalization. I did not say all christians are like that. I just happen to notice that a certain sect of them understand the book of genesis as if it's meant to be read in literal terms (I'm Gnostic and I read it in allegorical or symbolic terms only). Perhaps it's the Orthodox Christians I was referring to. Anyways, that's besides the point. I was merely using the Christian argument to point out how willfully ignorant the OP is at this moment. I can understand the many flaws with Dust 514, but that doesn't mean I'm obligated to see the whole thing as a glass that is half empty. I see the glass half full instead. But it's not just the amount of water in the container that matters. What about the chemical make up of the glass itself? It's shape maybe? Or how tall is that glass? Is the water being filled slowly or quickly? That's how I see Dust. Unfortunately for the OP, he just decided to stick with seeing the glass as just destroyed or non-existent. We already provided our valid arguments regarding the Unreal Engine. So far the OP has already made up his mind. There is no convincing him.
No offense taken. I just wanted to say that there are those of us put there who are Christians but still use science and such instead of religious platitudes out there to defend our faith.
@others If you believe that evolution is so undisputable, you have never come ip against a good argument against it. Being a forum about DUST 514, I think it would be better to end all religious debate here, and focus on DUST 514. Suffice it to say that I do have several good pieces of evidence and reasoned arguments against evoluion if I had the time and place to post it. And I mean evolution, not adaptation/natural selection |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:22:00 -
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Speaking of adaptation and natural selection, It's nice to know Dust 514 will be all about "adapt or die". XD |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:23:00 -
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But anyways, Back on topic.
As I mentioned before. You all are refuting him on the subject of the game bring a work in Progress, not on his basis of a problem with the game engine as a whole. Is there any arguments lut there to support or deny his assertions that Unreal Engone is limiting the game to a large extent? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:00:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:But anyways, Back on topic.
As I mentioned before. You all are refuting him on the subject of the game bring a work in Progress, not on his basis of a problem with the game engine as a whole. Is there any arguments lut there to support or deny his assertions that Unreal Engine is limiting the game to a large extent?
From what others have pointed out, it is a core engine that is flexible and easy to use. It may be limited but it can easily be ported to the latest Unreal engine for the PS4 once CCP has the SDK available for it. That's as far as I know based on what others say. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
363
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:12:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:But anyways, Back on topic.
As I mentioned before. You all are refuting him on the subject of the game bring a work in Progress, not on his basis of a problem with the game engine as a whole. Is there any arguments lut there to support or deny his assertions that Unreal Engone is limiting the game to a large extent?
Not really, no. There is talk about how Unreal does not fully utilize the unique architecture of the PS3's cell processor but then I remember someone talking about that in a fanfest video saying this was custom version of UE3 that was better for PS3. Then there does seem to be some evidence that developers tend to offload a lot of the work to the GPU which could cause heat issues but I don't have any links to it at the moment.
So short answer is no, there are a lot of people that talk about UE3 and how it isn't good for the PS3 like it's a fact but I've never seen any technical documents to support this. |
byte modal
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:57:00 -
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Yeah, I'll jump in here too. Reading the OP, I am confused. You waited 3 months to post this, but later said it has taken you 3 months to get access to play this game. At first, I assumed you had been playing for three months and waited to get a relatively broader perspective on the game and its issues today as compared to yesterday---rather, 3 months ago. Or better, 2 builds ago. Now, however, I am leaning towards the idea that you have not played for three months. My mistake perhaps in the assumption? Regardless, change has come. Graphics have improved. I started two character wipes back. The visuals, textures, lag, and rubber-banding were horrible then. Hit detection seemed to be disabled in 60% of my games. Their were no objects in field to navigate or use as cover during skirmishes. This build has, at least from my perspective, greatly improved on all of this---something you claim is unrepairable. That's not to say this build "nailed it" as there are obviously still many problems. *cough* BETA *cough* but having the perspective to know where we were two builds back compared to where we are NOW, I personally see no reason why improvements will not continue.
While I don't really disagree with your sentiment and frustration (because as one poster noted, it is both addictive and frustrating at the same time), I do find the rant overall as extremist and rather short-sighted considering the obvious improvements made over the last two builds. All of which I think counter many of your hard line complaints or assumptions.
Back to my original issue: How much time have you actually given to testing before this post to make valid comparisons?
Maybe I'm wrong.
- me.
*EDIT* Regarding the forum eating your posts, there is a draft that is automatically saved as you type. You can usually click the draft link to recover the last saved state. If next time you post and it returns to an empty post field and your 20-minute reply is no longer visable, look up top just above the text box for the red draft link. Worst case, select all and copy/paste your post beforing hitting "post." I learned this after about 6 replies within these forums. |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:25:00 -
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Ziot Reitrenner wrote: The use of Unreal Engine 3 in a game of this magnitude on a CONSOLE is absolutely unacceptable. This game will ALWAYS be a sub-30 FPS, stuttering, rubberbanding, mess.
Um, dude...
2K Marin, Epic Games, Hi-Rez Studios, Ubisoft, Raven Software, The Farm 51, Midway Games, EA Los Angeles, Danger Close Games, BioWare, Kaos Studios, Sony Online Austin, Gearbox Software, People Can Fly, NC Soft, EA Montreal, and the US Army all say you're full of it.
Lemme know when you've got your own kickass engine created that gets half the use that UE3 does though, mkay? |
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