I guess you do not understand that Heavies ARE NOT SLAYERS!!!!!!! They are not meant to be able to run around the match killing everyone. THEY ARE DEFENSIVE!!! Meant to stay near cover and buildings. I wish people understood that. Guess not.

This is true if you believe 181 less HP on a heavy is a LOT less. Because that's the difference HP wise between a standard and a proto heavy. You can already fit a proto HMG and 2 x complex shield extenders on a standard heavy. The only stuff you get extra on a proto heavy are another shield extender and an armor plate (which is 181 extra HP) plus a sidearm and a grenade possibly. You will on the other hand also be 10% slower due to the armor plate...

Min / Maxers will most definitely do this.

I've spent 45 day in eve training a lvl 5 skill for +3% to something. Not to mention, I also trained Gallente only for 5 years. I trained shield skills that would increase the buffer between first strike and tank starting, all to 5. I trained most missile skills to 5 just to use the utility slot on some ships.

After all that time on Gallente, there wasn't much more to train as Gallente. However, when I trained the next 2 races, I tore through their skills and can fly nearly anything out of 3 races with near perfect skills. Now, my abilities suck as anything but an inty pilot, but i digress.

So while you may not seed the benefit per cost, some people will take it because they can fit that one mod with better skills that just might help them kill you.

I disagree that upping your suits tier should also up HP. The upgrade in CPU/PC or w/e it's called is enough of an upgrade. I rather like the fact that if someone rushes to proto suit it won't mean they just got the best upgrade possible. It only means they can now use the best upgrades possible. You're still a sitting duck to militia who put SP into passive skills, rather then a suit with tons of potential and no ability to use it.

If they upgrade the suits armor/shield per tier, it would just create a very large barrier between vets and newbs.

i miss when scout suits were decent.

now they are tissue paper assault suits

You mean popping out of no where with shotguns or sniping you in the face, tissue papers.

Some tissues are so soft too, way better then the cheap stuff :)

You mean popping out of no where with shotguns or sniping you in the face, tissue papers.

Some tissues are so soft too, way better then the cheap stuff :)

i do the same feats with a assault suits.
more cap/cpu, more mod fittings.
but i get ahead of myself. let's all predict how they are going to nerf the heavies once they get access to armor and shield hardeners.

Is once we get to level 4 on our suits, we may as well stop. Do you really believe 60 or so more CPU is worth 250,000 ISK? It's not, even with another mod.

If you haven't noticed yet, my complaint is the last variant to the Type-II series. For a heavy fighting in higher tier games where everyone is rocking proto weapons, we turn into paper without the right mods. But to get the power to use those mods we need to farm for hours and hours, 150k a good game, and this will care for only half the cost of a single suit, no gun or mods.

So since I can't possibly afford the proto suit variant, I must use the advanced one. Which is fine, I can stomp on anyone not geared. But once I come across a black suit, my fun time will end and everything I have to miss out on due to outrages price comes to shine.

I'm not asking for a buff for heavies - honestly I think it's the mods that need work. But a price reduction on our proto suit. Why is the armor variant only 1/3 the price of the shield one?

I can understand where you are coming from but heavies have more hp than any other Class and if you are in the objective (where a heavy should be) we ar emost likley in the range of your HMG...so there is your trade off....i would say for pub matches you are correct but to say theat yo should never spec into proto because of the cost ...you should join an EVE corp and that will not be an issue for them(your suit cost)SO will you ever use it?Im gonna say yes...just not now...wearing proto assault/scout/logi right now is just as dumb.

This is just a quick suggestion that I haven't really thought but I'll post it anyway:

What if proto heavy suits had a 1 hp per second repair rate in their armour automatically? Meaning, if you make a proto heavy with 2 shield extenders and 2 armour plates for maximum health, you'll still be able to regenerate health, but at a very slow rate. If you added a basic armour repairer then it would be 3 hp per second instead.

This would be a small thing, but I believe it would make them more widely used.
Anyone have reason why/why not?

I can give you a somewhat decent why not - it's worthless. Ever run as a heavy with 800 armor and a 5/hp a sec mod? Doesn't do us a lick of good. It helps assaults and logi - they don't have much health to begin with, but for us, we're just fatties who are slower, bigger, don't hit harder, but can last a whole second longer if attacked then assaults.

I can understand where you are coming from but heavies have more hp than any other Class and if you are in the objective (where a heavy should be) we ar emost likley in the range of your HMG...so there is your trade off....i would say for pub matches you are correct but to say theat yo should never spec into proto because of the cost ...you should join an EVE corp and that will not be an issue for them(your suit cost)SO will you ever use it?Im gonna say yes...just not now...wearing proto assault/scout/logi right now is just as dumb.

I run a heavy, and even a basic armour repairer is not worthless, do you know why? Because I don't usually get damaged past my shields, and when I do, my armour repairer kicks in and heals it. If I lose 200 armour, then I let myself heal for a while and gain 100 back, because I keep my shields up, then that 100 armour could be the difference between life and death.

Heavies are slow, so you have plenty of time to heal up. It's not worthless in my opinion, as every little thing helps.

Bahaha. Yesterday i hacked a blaster turret that was behind enemy lines, but only barely. Then, i would run over to it, kill some reds that were hiding in the red zone, and then sprint back to safety every 14 or so seconds. Racked up quite a few kills + i felt awesome!

Sorry, off topic^

A quick warning to people using supply depots to save expensive heavy suits - it deletes your suit when you change it. Tested this - it's true. Seems it only deletes if you've taken a certain amount of damage though, since one time my FG suit didn't delete.

What?

As far as I'm aware you don't lose any suits when you switch at a supply depot.

If you spawn and go look at a supply depot it would look like you lost the fitting you're using, but as soon as you switch to another fitting, you get back the fitting you just switched from.