DUST Search - The problem with Heavies.

SoTa PoP wrote:

HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

Is once we get to level 4 on our suits, we may as well stop. Do you really believe 60 or so more CPU is worth 250,000 ISK? It's not, even with another mod.

If you haven't noticed yet, my complaint is the last variant to the Type-II series. For a heavy fighting in higher tier games where everyone is rocking proto weapons, we turn into paper without the right mods. But to get the power to use those mods we need to farm for hours and hours, 150k a good game, and this will care for only half the cost of a single suit, no gun or mods.

So since I can't possibly afford the proto suit variant, I must use the advanced one. Which is fine, I can stomp on anyone not geared. But once I come across a black suit, my fun time will end and everything I have to miss out on due to outrages price comes to shine.

I'm not asking for a buff for heavies - honestly I think it's the mods that need work. But a price reduction on our proto suit. Why is the armor variant only 1/3 the price of the shield one?

I can understand where you are coming from but heavies have more hp than any other Class and if you are in the objective (where a heavy should be) we ar emost likley in the range of your HMG...so there is your trade off....i would say for pub matches you are correct but to say theat yo should never spec into proto because of the cost ...you should join an EVE corp and that will not be an issue for them(your suit cost)SO will you ever use it?Im gonna say yes...just not now...wearing proto assault/scout/logi right now is just as dumb.

I've never seen you before, but your nearly 100 likes means you've been around. So I'm going to ask - am I suppose to only do one thing in a suit, and only one thing? Heavies ONLY defend? I have no other choice? I should only use HMG? Heavies are like any other suit in this game - they're suppose to have choices in how they want to play.

And one of the choices I should be allowed to make is not have any real contact to the EVE side, still be able to play this game and use all the high end tier equipment if I play enough. I shouldn't have to spend 100 hours more grinding ISK just because CCP expects each and every single one of us to have friends on the EVE side. I actually do thanks to Zion, but if I hadn't been in this corp, I wouldn't know anyone and I'd be up ***** creek if I didn't own a PC to go looking for them.

The price is broken.

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Velvet Overkill Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 104	Posted - 2012.12.08 19:03:00 - [61] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: A quick warning to people using supply depots to save expensive heavy suits - it deletes your suit when you change it. Tested this - it's true. Seems it only deletes if you've taken a certain amount of damage though, since one time my FG suit didn't delete. What? As far as I'm aware you don't lose any suits when you switch at a supply depot. If you spawn and go look at a supply depot it would look like you lost the fitting you're using, but as soon as you switch to another fitting, you get back the fitting you just switched from. I too have lost fittings from using supply depots.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.12.08 20:20:00 - [62] - Quote Just as another quick things as to why proto heavies are not worth it- a friend of mine in The Southern Legion is running a proto assault suit, and I've seen one of his fits with 428 armour and 401 shields. A proto heavy suit barely has more health than this, it has less slots and it costs much more.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.12.08 21:02:00 - [63] - Quote Switched out of a forge suit with 75% dmg on it - lost the suit. Checked next game to see if 11 would turn to 12 suits - nope, still gone. So yup, deletes the suit.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.12.10 04:03:00 - [64] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is once we get to level 4 on our suits, we may as well stop. Do you really believe 60 or so more CPU is worth 250,000 ISK? It's not, even with another mod. If you haven't noticed yet, my complaint is the last variant to the Type-II series. For a heavy fighting in higher tier games where everyone is rocking proto weapons, we turn into paper without the right mods. But to get the power to use those mods we need to farm for hours and hours, 150k a good game, and this will care for only half the cost of a single suit, no gun or mods. So since I can't possibly afford the proto suit variant, I must use the advanced one. Which is fine, I can stomp on anyone not geared. But once I come across a black suit, my fun time will end and everything I have to miss out on due to outrages price comes to shine. I'm not asking for a buff for heavies - honestly I think it's the mods that need work. But a price reduction on our proto suit. Why is the armor variant only 1/3 the price of the shield one? I can understand where you are coming from but heavies have more hp than any other Class and if you are in the objective (where a heavy should be) we ar emost likley in the range of your HMG...so there is your trade off....i would say for pub matches you are correct but to say theat yo should never spec into proto because of the cost ...you should join an EVE corp and that will not be an issue for them(your suit cost)SO will you ever use it?Im gonna say yes...just not now...wearing proto assault/scout/logi right now is just as dumb. I've never seen you before, but your nearly 100 likes means you've been around. So I'm going to ask - am I suppose to only do one thing in a suit, and only one thing? Heavies ONLY defend? I have no other choice? I should only use HMG? Heavies are like any other suit in this game - they're suppose to have choices in how they want to play. And one of the choices I should be allowed to make is not have any real contact to the EVE side, still be able to play this game and use all the high end tier equipment if I play enough. I shouldn't have to spend 100 hours more grinding ISK just because CCP expects each and every single one of us to have friends on the EVE side. I actually do thanks to Zion, but if I hadn't been in this corp, I wouldn't know anyone and I'd be up ***** creek if I didn't own a PC to go looking for them. The price is broken. I have to agree with you about the ability to be just a PS3 player and not having to go beg some PC egg head so he can get his jollies.I got ya bro.I feel ya .But proto DOES make everyone better it always will....everyone hated the tanks and cried for tank nerfs....proto tanks costed upwards of 3.5 million when fully equipped....I know the proto heavy is expensive....it cost upwards of over 350k for an assault rockin Complex.....I couldnt imagine a fully "decked out"Logi hed probably cost(with 4 full proto item slots)over 450k.In the end this game is about making the other guy go broke......and thats it.The clan your in is called a corp.Corporations run EVE.Whether npc or pc.It really boils down to destroying the other guys wallet.


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