Was watching a David Reid interview about eve corps issuing contracts and I started thinking.....eve corps will choose who they want to issue contracts. And I'm thinking why would I (if I'm an eve corp) issue a contract to the second best corp or below. If you want a job done, you will contract those you know are certain to get it done.

So what will happen to a nub corp that wants to fight for contracts? No eve corp may issue them a contract. How will this work? Will they be forced to play just random games? Or, will there be contracts up for grabs by anyone?

I'm interested to see how all of this will play out after release but I can't help but to think that a corp with a WLR of .5 will not have anything to do.

there are 7k temperate planets in dust and a good portion of them will be up for conquest on a daily basis. Not to mention tuesday night is Mavado's and I bowling night so fat chance our corps will be taking or defending districts then.

That should give other corps a chance to shine.

So i bacially spared you the 40 page indepth analysis and gave you a joke instead. I hope you get my point (which is even the imprfercs can't be in all districts on all planets at I time)

there are 7k temperate planets in dust and a good portion of them will be up for conquest on a daily basis. Not to mention tuesday night is Mavado's and I bowling night so fat chance our corps will be taking or defending districts then.

That should give other corps a chance to shine.

So i bacially spared you the 40 page indepth analysis and gave you a joke instead. I hope you get my point (which is even the imprfercs can't be in all districts on all planets at I time)

there are 7k temperate planets in dust and a good portion of them will be up for conquest on a daily basis.

And I'm thinking why would I (if I'm an eve corp) issue a contract to the second best corp or below.

I'm interested to see how all of this will play out after release but I can't help but to think that a corp with a WLR of .5 will not have anything to do.

This is a pretty big assumption.

As well as the point Free Bears made, there's also another issue.

"We'll pay you 5 million ISK to defend Planet X"
"Sorry, we've already been hired to invade it"

Who are you going to hire to defend your assets when the best you know are already on the other side?

"We'll pay you 2 milliion ISK to invade Planet Y"
"Sorry, we'd need at least 10 million to cover expenses on that fight"

Who do you hire when you have a limited price range to work with?

Define "best":-

Highest KDR?
Highest win/loss ratio?
Most wins overall?
Best all-timezone coverage?
Highest kill/ISK ratio?
Corp that has delivered most consistently for you before?
Most highly recommended by people you trust?

1. I would believe that ppl in EvE would most likely after they'll used a corp for so long would stay with that corp so im pretty sure that many for with be with different EvE groups. Also If a corp thats not so good were to be paired with a supa rich EvE group, they could potentially be the strongest based on there weaponry they have.

2. I would also wonder if EvE players can hire multiple corps to do a single contract. So lets say like you said that one was limited on the amount of money they had. One could possibly hire multiple corps to carry out a contract giving them more overwhelming numbers that the defenders.

1) isk matters but isn't deciding factor

2) contract could be to attack/defend planet or attack/defend a district but either way the player numbers will be same on both sides. Example if ccp goal is 32 v 32 battle you get 1 contract to attack and 1 to defend thats it. it wont be 32 v 96 if 3 corps accept the defend contract.

Define "best":-

Highest KDR?
Highest win/loss ratio?
Most wins overall?
Best all-timezone coverage?
Highest kill/ISK ratio?
Corp that has delivered most consistently for you before?
Most highly recommended by people you trust?

Corp most likely to deliver, I guess. Although KDR and WLR may be affected by certain situations and does not mean everything, you may not consider a corp with average KDR and WLR of .3 to be "best"

BEST= HIGHEST KDR

KDR>EVERYTHING

Was watching a David Reid interview about eve corps issuing contracts and I started thinking.....eve corps will choose who they want to issue contracts. And I'm thinking why would I (if I'm an eve corp) issue a contract to the second best corp or below. If you want a job done, you will contract those you know are certain to get it done.

So what will happen to a nub corp that wants to fight for contracts? No eve corp may issue them a contract. How will this work? Will they be forced to play just random games? Or, will there be contracts up for grabs by anyone?

I'm interested to see how all of this will play out after release but I can't help but to think that a corp with a WLR of .5 will not have anything to do.

Wouldn't the advantage of larger corps be there ability to hold multiple planets and accept multiple contracts at once?

Okay guys, you all have to realize that 0.0 won't come for at least another 1.5 years. Pretty long time.

Another problem that nobody realizes either is the battle system. In EVE you can attack multiple locations all at once because its all on the same server and you can get anywhere with no problem. You just need the numbers to do so.

In Dust it will be based on Contracts. The battles will not be instantaneous because of how the battle system will work. Hey, yeah you can have the numbers to take all the districts at once. Will it happen no. Because most of your forces will be waiting for your opponent to accept the defend contract stating that their forces are ready for battle.

I highly bet that there will be a 3 hour plus reinforcement timer for districts. So that small corp that controls the whole planet can effectively defend it without needing the numbers to defend all of them at once. All they have to do is play one game at a time. With a 3 hour plus reinforcement timer, a great corp can go through 15 districts in no time and defend it well because they are facing the same opponent over and over.

The problem with bigger corps will be when they start the attack process with multiple districts, they will be at the biggest disadvantage. Because they will need there players on standby while the defending corp can choose what district to defend at a time. They could hire another corp with the numbers to defend all the targets at once and surprise your huge corp if it wasn't in fact ready to do all the battles at once. Most likely be a 10min notice for the attacking team that the defenders are ready.

Corps with big numbers will be in a bit of a surprise when FW and Null come around as numbers will not matter. CCP has stated that FW and Null will cater to smaller corps.

The smaller more efficient Corps will be a lot more power than the corps with 300 plus members.
Skill>Numbers

You can have 300 average players, but those 50 highly skilled players will be able to win every single battle. You can have 300 members but you can't fit 300 players into 16,24,32 match.

So according to this, dust alliances will be irrelevant. Because you won't need help defending all of your territory at once.

A small corp can hold as much as a big corp or even bigger depending on the area. Because there are choke points within each region. Like in real estate, location location.

As I stated above if you didn't read. Corps can always hire other corps do some dirty work for you. You still have alliances if you choose to. All I was stating is that you don't have to be with a big corp or big alliance to be great at the game.

EVE tactics will not work in Dust as they are two different games with two different game mechanics.

If anyone doubts this post, you obviously never heard of the 300 spartans.

Also take into account that players won't always need to field large, powerful corps.

Sure, they're great for spearheading an attack, but they might be too "battle-hungry" to be good defenders. It might also be more effective just to send in a grunt corp as a distraction while a stealth strike-force does the real job.

Not to mention it's highly inefficient. Why spend a few hundred million ISK getting the best of the best when you just need to spend 5 million or so on a corp that isn't great, but good enough to get the job done easily enough? (Just random numbers I through out there)

Also take into account that players won't always need to field large, powerful corps.

Sure, they're great for spearheading an attack, but they might be too "battle-hungry" to be good defenders. It might also be more effective just to send in a grunt corp as a distraction while a stealth strike-force does the real job.

Not to mention it's highly inefficient. Why spend a few hundred million ISK getting the best of the best when you just need to spend 5 million or so on a corp that isn't great, but good enough to get the job done easily enough? (Just random numbers I through out there)

Well EVE will pay millions of ISK for the best corp to go take out that Orbital cannon so it doesn't one shot there EVE ships that Cost BILLIONS!!!!!!

Omni where are u gettin the info on all this?

So according to this, dust alliances will be irrelevant. Because you won't need help defending all of your territory at once.

he told ccp how it was going to be. all you need to remember is tuesday night bowling night

You can have 300 average players, but those 50 highly skilled players will be able to win every single battle. You can have 300 members but you can't fit 300 players into 16,24,32 match.

Is this an off the cuff comment or do you actually think the matches are not going to be bigger in size in terms of player numbers.

tbqh game shouldnt be more than 64v64 tops imho
ppl want MAG numbers but lets face it take a look at what happened to DOM when the playerbase faded, take a look at how ACQ always was?

making it take too long to get into a match will slowly kill the game.

No on the first part. A small corp can hold as much as a big corp or even bigger depending on the area. Because there are choke points within each region. Like in real estate, location location.

For the second part yes&no. Only advantage would be is that they could do multiple battles at once. Down side is there are only so many good players with in the game. So your forces would be spread thin with skill.

Example:

Imperfects could of field 3 teams for the tourney and would of been 1,2&3. So we can easily do three battles at once with 16v16 for districts and dominate.

Zion could of have field 16+ teams . But if you had everybody face the other tourney teams, only one or two would win there respective battles because you guys don't have the skill to support 16 solid teams. Yes you guys have numbers but it doesn't mean anything if you have a 1 out of 8 chance of winning a battle.-