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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:18:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Heavy snipers are a deadly crowd, luckily a small crowd.. hopefully it doesnt start a trend.
In the market in singularity there's a heavy suit that trades the ability to use heavy weapons for an equipment slot. I can't wait to see the fat suit snipers waddle up the mountain. I'll follow with my tuba
o.0 wtf, I don't like that plan . let heavies use light weapons, while light weapon users can't use heavies and throw in an extra equipment slot for them o.0 just no |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:19:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Heavy snipers are a deadly crowd, luckily a small crowd.. hopefully it doesnt start a trend.
In the market in singularity there's a heavy suit that trades the ability to use heavy weapons for an equipment slot. I can't wait to see the fat suit snipers waddle up the mountain. I'll follow with my tuba o.0 wtf, I don't like that plan . let heavies use light weapons, while light weapon users can't use heavies and throw in an extra equipment slot for them o.0 just no don't worry heavies have big heads |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:20:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Heavy snipers are a deadly crowd, luckily a small crowd.. hopefully it doesnt start a trend.
In the market in singularity there's a heavy suit that trades the ability to use heavy weapons for an equipment slot. I can't wait to see the fat suit snipers waddle up the mountain. I'll follow with my tuba o.0 wtf, I don't like that plan . let heavies use light weapons, while light weapon users can't use heavies and throw in an extra equipment slot for them o.0 just no don't worry heavies have big heads
lol, true |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:21:00 -
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AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun
like I said before, close minded |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:24:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you get a good suit and take 3-4 shots? LOLOLOL.. maybe if your a heavy, and good luck traversing the terrain to get to them. Ishukone sniper rifle blasts my A type assault suit with complex shielding in one shot sometimes I get lucky and get away with a slim bar of armor
Well, i have 350+ on Shiled and Armor and that's why they need. And with the first shoot you can see where that came from and you just get cover, it's not that hard if a sniper try to take you down alone. Maybe it's annoying if you're in the middle of a "battle" with 50% health and he takes you. But i don't see them like a big problem. Like i said, for me, the redzone is a bigger problem, for snipers, for tanks, for dropships (having a bigger redzone) flying to everywhere, getting full hp and coming back. |
AMARRKIS
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:26:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you Everyone and this redzone stuff has anyone ever thought for one moment(not saying you dont) that each team can not see the red line that separates their team from the other teams safe zone. So while i see a nice safe zone that I've found to snipe from. Someone else see's a sneaky sniper thats scared to come down and play because they are doing what their suit and weapon are built for. has anyone every thought of that?
I really like your name by the way PS: Temari beat him bad. |
AMARRKIS
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:28:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded *sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then
LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:33:00 -
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AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded *sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that
Bzzt. Wrong. Sniper Rifles are not meant for long range. Any gun can do long range (A standard rifle can hit targets at 500 meters, 300 accurately). The point of a sniper rifle is to hit targets between 3 and 600 meters ACCURATELY . That's the key difference. It's not made for range, it's made for precision. The range is a by-product of that.
Please for the love of all that is holy, stop with the over romanized idea of a sniper being a lone wolf killer hiding in the long grass. It does not exist and the fact it's perpetuated HURTS team based FPS games! |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:34:00 -
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Wow, one can use any weapon how they want. If people can snipe on the front line then, go for it. If you want to skill up your scrambler pistol to do long range, go for it. You wanna bring a knife to a gun fight, go for it. Why put limitations on things? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:35:00 -
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AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded *sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that Well actually, I wasn't expecting you to reply to that
And I'm just saying your not using the sniper to its full potential
And this is a video game, you never take the description of a weapon seriously in a video game. |
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Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:40:00 -
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AMARRKIS wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you Everyone and this redzone stuff has anyone ever thought for one moment(not saying you dont) that each team can not see the red line that separates their team from the other teams safe zone. So while i see a nice safe zone that I've found to snipe from. Someone else see's a sneaky sniper thats scared to come down and play because they are doing what their suit and weapon are built for. has anyone every thought of that? I really like your name by the way PS: Temari beat him bad.
Well, when i see a match inbalanced and i will get kill so many times, sometimes i use my redzone to snipe people. I have not problem with a safe zone, i think it's necessary. But i think, the difference between my redzone and the enemy redzone is too big. Maybe if an Assault Suit, or Logistic Suit can go to the enemy redzone, kill the sniper and come back in less than 15 seconds will be better for the gameplay. Because in this way, people get forced to use snipers. I know, if you have a little of all in your team is better. But i don't think that anyone wants to gets forced to play with something that he/she don't want to or don't like. If i have a team with 0 snipers and i want to kill one who is in the top of some building in his redzone? Give me options, make the game flexible.
edited: like i said, snipers are not a big problem to me. If they have 10 snipers better for me, because they won't get A, B, C... |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:42:00 -
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FPS SNIPER -A member of a FPS team who uses a Rifle usually equiped with a Telescopic sight and picks off targets. They come in 2 varieties Newbs and Pro. Newbs tend to use it and shoot anyone and then brag about being 1337 and say i sniped 59 people on Halo today. A pro sniper waits for that 1 shot, be it a Mger who has hassled the time or a enemy sniper. He doesnt galavant after kills he is there to make sure his team survive. Like a true sniper he doesnt brag, or claim to be uber 1337, he just does his job and carries on.
Team leader: take out that mg Newb: I aint gonna do that when i could pick off these 5 easy targets Pro: ill do it
SNIPER -a remarkably skilled marksman in real life, or in a video game 1)in the video game scenario, he/she is usually considered "cheap", a "noob", or a coward (s)he usually pisses off those of the other team by sniping them from halfway across the map from a very covert location. although (s)he is a threat from far away, one can strafe back and forth to avoid being shot while closing in on his/her location, and if the player gets to close enough to the sniper, the sniper is rendered virtually useless because "unscoped" shots are particularly hard to pull off 2)a sniper may also **** off his teammates, too, by shooting the person the player is sneaking up on, therefore making the sniper a "kill stealer"
*player suddenly drops dead, no visible killer in sight*
Player: god**** snipers! |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:44:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you Everyone and this redzone stuff has anyone ever thought for one moment(not saying you dont) that each team can not see the red line that separates their team from the other teams safe zone. So while i see a nice safe zone that I've found to snipe from. Someone else see's a sneaky sniper thats scared to come down and play because they are doing what their suit and weapon are built for. has anyone every thought of that? I really like your name by the way PS: Temari beat him bad. Well, when i see a match inbalanced and i will get kill so many times, sometimes i use my redzone to snipe people. I have not problem with a safe zone, i think it's necessary. But i think, the difference between my redzone and the enemy redzone is too big. Maybe if an Assault Suit, or Logistic Suit can go to the enemy redzone, kill the sniper and come back in less than 15 seconds will be better for the gameplay. Because in this way, people get forced to use snipers. I know, if you have a little of all in your team is better. But i don't think that anyone wants to gets forced to play with something that he/she don't want to or don't like. If i have a team with 0 snipers and i want to kill one who is in the top of some building in his redzone? Give me options, make the game flexible.
supply depots |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:45:00 -
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assault is where the real entertainment is |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:50:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you Everyone and this redzone stuff has anyone ever thought for one moment(not saying you dont) that each team can not see the red line that separates their team from the other teams safe zone. So while i see a nice safe zone that I've found to snipe from. Someone else see's a sneaky sniper thats scared to come down and play because they are doing what their suit and weapon are built for. has anyone every thought of that? I really like your name by the way PS: Temari beat him bad. Well, when i see a match inbalanced and i will get kill so many times, sometimes i use my redzone to snipe people. I have not problem with a safe zone, i think it's necessary. But i think, the difference between my redzone and the enemy redzone is too big. Maybe if an Assault Suit, or Logistic Suit can go to the enemy redzone, kill the sniper and come back in less than 15 seconds will be better for the gameplay. Because in this way, people get forced to use snipers. I know, if you have a little of all in your team is better. But i don't think that anyone wants to gets forced to play with something that he/she don't want to or don't like. If i have a team with 0 snipers and i want to kill one who is in the top of some building in his redzone? Give me options, make the game flexible. supply depots
LOL i know, i mean, if i want to play all the match, with a heavy suit, you must give me the chance to kill an assault, logistic or sniper suit. You must give them differents advantage to the suits, but you need to do anything with any suit, maybe faster and better with one than other, but anything with anyone |
AMARRKIS
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:51:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded *sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that Bzzt. Wrong. Sniper Rifles are not meant for long range. Any gun can do long range (A standard rifle can hit targets at 500 meters, 300 accurately). The point of a sniper rifle is to hit targets between 3 and 600 meters ACCURATELY . That's the key difference. It's not made for range, it's made for precision. The range is a by-product of that. Please for the love of all that is holy, stop with the over romanized idea of a sniper being a lone wolf killer hiding in the long grass. It does not exist and the fact it's perpetuated HURTS team based FPS games! ANNNT WRONG, SORRY, U ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE!!! Yes it is meant for precision but it is mean for precision over LONG RANGE or there wouldn't be a scope that has great power than a assault rifle. Tho yes you can use one closer, The sniper rifle that is in the game (which i should have stated early) is not meant for such a thing. |
AMARRKIS
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:54:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Wow, one can use any weapon how they want. If people can snipe on the front line then, go for it. If you want to skill up your scrambler pistol to do long range, go for it. You wanna bring a knife to a gun fight, go for it. Why put limitations on things? If your talking to be indirectly and I said IF. Then i never said that one could not use the weapon that way. I said that the rifle that is in the game is not built for it. But I said by all means for him to go a revolutionize the way ppl use that sniper rifle. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:55:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:LOL i know, i mean, if i want to play all the match, with a heavy suit, you must give me the chance to kill an assault, logistic or sniper suit. You must give them differents advantage to the suits, but you need to do anything with any suit, maybe faster and better with one than other, but anything with anyone
Bring friends.
Seriously, no. Not every soldier on the battlefield should have a fair fight against every other soldier on the battlefield. An army NEEDS varied members or it won't be viable. You need vehicles or AV guys to take down the enemy's vehicles. You need Logistics/Support people equipped with Nanohives. Snipers are great at long range, but vulnerable in close, and vulnerable to counter-sniping.
If you, personally, aren't prepared to change your role to fit the situation, bring along someone who WILL. Or bring friends who fill different roles from your own. Don't expect to run ANY job solo and handle EVERYTHING the game throws at you all the time. |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:57:00 -
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AMARRKIS wrote: ANNNT WRONG, SORRY, U ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE!!! Yes it is meant for precision but it is mean for precision over LONG RANGE or there wouldn't be a scope that has great power than a assault rifle. Tho yes you can use one closer, The sniper rifle that is in the game (which i should have stated early) is not meant for such a thing.
Going a little off point here... You've never fired a gun, have you? It has a scope so it's precise. Telescopic sights exist for Designated Marksmen to do their job easier (Extend accurate, lethal engagement range of their squad, remember when I said that part?)... gun's are not easy to aim, nothing like a video game, son.
If we're talking about the game, well then it's still a redundant, useless tool that can have it's role filled more efficiently by someone in Assault Gear using the Tac Rifle with Sharpshooter 5. A sniper does 1 thing in this game... And it does it poorly. A good sniper is better, but he's still gimping himself by a weapon with limited and difficult application.
Anyone else get the feeling they're talking to a wall? Dude, seriously, defend the play style all you want, it don't change the fact it's from a long gone and long dead genre of FPS gaming. It has no place in modern shooters, it contributes nothing. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:59:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:LOL i know, i mean, if i want to play all the match, with a heavy suit, you must give me the chance to kill an assault, logistic or sniper suit. You must give them differents advantage to the suits, but you need to do anything with any suit, maybe faster and better with one than other, but anything with anyone Bring friends. Seriously, no. Not every soldier on the battlefield should have a fair fight against every other soldier on the battlefield. An army NEEDS varied members or it won't be viable. You need vehicles or AV guys to take down the enemy's vehicles. You need Logistics/Support people equipped with Nanohives. Snipers are great at long range, but vulnerable in close, and vulnerable to counter-sniping. If you, personally, aren't prepared to change your role to fit the situation, bring along someone who WILL. Or bring friends who fill different roles from your own. Don't expect to run ANY job solo and handle EVERYTHING the game throws at you all the time.
Like i said, of course it's better if you have all in your team, and I never said fair fight against every other soldier. I just said, a possibility. |
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AMARRKIS
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:02:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I don't think the problem is 100% snipers (good or bad). Maybe the problem is that they can snipe you from their redzone, and that's kinda dificult for teams who have not snipers in their team (it's kinda the same with tanks sniping from their redzone). Yes, you can climb the mountain and kill them but if they are not close enough from the "general zone" you will get suicide. I think the principal problem is the redzone. The rest it's just normal. If you're a regular player, you know where they are. You just need 1 sniper to take them down and they won't back to those places. Get a good suit and they will need 3 or 4 shoots to kill you. Move between mountais or buldings and you won't even feel snipers.
Sorry for the english. See you Everyone and this redzone stuff has anyone ever thought for one moment(not saying you dont) that each team can not see the red line that separates their team from the other teams safe zone. So while i see a nice safe zone that I've found to snipe from. Someone else see's a sneaky sniper thats scared to come down and play because they are doing what their suit and weapon are built for. has anyone every thought of that? I really like your name by the way PS: Temari beat him bad. Well, when i see a match inbalanced and i will get kill so many times, sometimes i use my redzone to snipe people. I have not problem with a safe zone, i think it's necessary. But i think, the difference between my redzone and the enemy redzone is too big. Maybe if an Assault Suit, or Logistic Suit can go to the enemy redzone, kill the sniper and come back in less than 15 seconds will be better for the gameplay. Because in this way, people get forced to use snipers. I know, if you have a little of all in your team is better. But i don't think that anyone wants to gets forced to play with something that he/she don't want to or don't like. If i have a team with 0 snipers and i want to kill one who is in the top of some building in his redzone? Give me options, make the game flexible. supply depots LOL i know, i mean, if i want to play all the match, with a heavy suit, you must give me the chance to kill an assault, logistic or sniper suit. You must give them differents advantage to the suits, but you need to do anything with any suit, maybe faster and better with one than other, but anything with anyone I get what your saying but then again, forgive me for being blunt but its just who i am, what you said is stupid the classes are much like rock, paper, scissors each being able to beat another but none being able to beat all. This is why ppl create corps so that they can have an assortment of players to take onto battle( not to say that you didnt know that.) But i do think that each class should have at least 5 special things that only that suit can accomplish. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:05:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:LOL i know, i mean, if i want to play all the match, with a heavy suit, you must give me the chance to kill an assault, logistic or sniper suit. You must give them differents advantage to the suits, but you need to do anything with any suit, maybe faster and better with one than other, but anything with anyone Bring friends. Seriously, no. Not every soldier on the battlefield should have a fair fight against every other soldier on the battlefield. An army NEEDS varied members or it won't be viable. You need vehicles or AV guys to take down the enemy's vehicles. You need Logistics/Support people equipped with Nanohives. Snipers are great at long range, but vulnerable in close, and vulnerable to counter-sniping. If you, personally, aren't prepared to change your role to fit the situation, bring along someone who WILL. Or bring friends who fill different roles from your own. Don't expect to run ANY job solo and handle EVERYTHING the game throws at you all the time. Like i said, of course it's better if you have all in your team, and I never said fair fight against every other soldier. I just said, a possibility. If an enemy sniper is as far back into the redzone as they can possibly get without suiciding themselves, a guy with Sidearm Sharpshooter to level 5 will still be able to hit with his SMG. Not consistently, and not for much damage, but they WILL be able to hit. If he's NOT that far behind the redline (they usually aren't), you don't have to push as hard to get your SMG to hit them. HMGs can hit effectively as well. Laser Rifles are pretty effective counter-sniper weapons, especially when the sniper is running a Scout suit. Assault Rifles can also fill the job in most cases. The Tactical AR is a particularly effective counter-sniper weapon.
Tanks are another viable tool for taking out snipers.
What exactly is the loadout you're struggling with? Unless you have a Shotgun, in which case, it goes without saying why the sniper is winning, there IS a chance. Sometimes not MUCH of a chance, but there's still a chance that you can land the kill. |
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:07:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:AMARRKIS wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded *sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that Well actually, I wasn't expecting you to reply to that And I'm just saying your not using the sniper to its full potential And this is a video game, you never take the description of a weapon seriously in a video game. well i did so
I get that but again that just not how i want to use the weapon
what y wouldn't I. the ppl who make this game put there time into making use entertainment. Tho yes im sure it would bring smiles to their faces im still not just gonna blow their interpretation of the weapon they created off. |
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:13:00 -
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I get what your saying but then again, forgive me for being blunt but its just who i am, what you said is stupid the classes are much like rock, paper, scissors each being able to beat another but none being able to beat all. This is why ppl create corps so that they can have an assortment of players to take onto battle( not to say that you didnt know that.) But i do think that each class should have at least 5 special things that only that suit can accomplish. [/quote]
Ok, i understand you, now tell me something, if snipers in the top of some mountain or bulding in their redzone are paper, where are the scissors to take them down? You need another paper for win against a paper, that's kinda funny and weird haha |
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:19:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:AMARRKIS wrote: ANNNT WRONG, SORRY, U ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE!!! Yes it is meant for precision but it is mean for precision over LONG RANGE or there wouldn't be a scope that has great power than a assault rifle. Tho yes you can use one closer, The sniper rifle that is in the game (which i should have stated early) is not meant for such a thing. Going a little off point here... You've never fired a gun, have you? It has a scope so it's precise. Telescopic sights exist for Designated Marksmen to do their job easier (Extend accurate, lethal engagement range of their squad, remember when I said that part?)... gun's are not easy to aim, nothing like a video game, son. If we're talking about the game, well then it's still a redundant, useless tool that can have it's rolled filled more efficiently by someone in Assault Gear using the Tac Rifle with Sharpshooter 5. A sniper does 1 thing in this game... And it does it poorly. A good sniper is better, but he's still gimping himself by a weapon with limited and difficult application. Anyone else get the feeling they're talking to a wall? Dude, seriously, defend the play style all you want, it don't change the fact it's from a long gone and long dead genre of FPS gaming. It has no place in modern shooters, it contributes nothing.
No I have not but im sure it would be fun to Yes I remember when you said that but lets see if you remember this/ I said that THIS RIFLE IN THE GAAAAAAAAAME or should i say the SCOPE is built for long range now maybe a different sniper rifle would be better for closer distance but not this one. Also were here to live out a fantasy/ future this isnt real life, "father"
Um i dont think we're talking I believe that we are typing but ooooook. Also this is a horrible view in my opinion. Just because some ppl you a certain thing for a different reason doesn't mean i use it for that same reason. I help out my I contribute. So when you can see what on the other side of the battle filed with your scrabbler you come and tell me. A;so a horrible view if you where to make games a class that has been deeply rooted in to shooting games of all sort and to just throw it away. Now thats not to say that you cant put this class but also something with a a spin of it sure but just yea. |
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:23:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:I get what your saying but then again, forgive me for being blunt but its just who i am, what you said is stupid the classes are much like rock, paper, scissors each being able to beat another but none being able to beat all. This is why ppl create corps so that they can have an assortment of players to take onto battle( not to say that you didnt know that.) But i do think that each class should have at least 5 special things that only that suit can accomplish.
Ok, i understand you, now tell me something, if snipers in the top of some mountain or bulding in their redzone are paper, where are the scissors to take them down? You need another paper for win against a paper, that's kinda funny and weird haha[/quote] OH haha you tried to get me but NOPE the scissors can be Tanks or Dropships( because of the distance and power they provide) now if you don that a forge gun can be useful or maybe a laser rifle if one have the effective range to a high enough point? |
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