DUST Search - Why Do You Guys Hate Snipers That Do What Their Meant For?

AMARRKIS wrote:

Sleepy Zan wrote:

AMARRKIS wrote:

Sleepy Zan wrote:

lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand.

my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks.

Well your no fun Sad

like I said before, close minded

*sigh* I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then

LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that


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Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.11 12:56:00 - [1] - Quote It's simple really. 1 good sniper is all the team needs. And if he's good, he's bearly shooting. He's in constant communication with the leaders and forever feeding them info. He only shoots in self defence or to take out a high priority target who's giving the ground team hell. In reality, snipers on ops shoot about once per engagement IF they're lucky. What you want to play as is NOT a sniper. You want to play as what the military calls a designated marksman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_marksman People see DMs and instantly think he's a sniper. He's not. He extends the operational and operative range of the squad he is attached to. Snipers are attached to platoons in pairs. Therefore there 2 snipers for around every 40 men. People also get annoyed because out of 14 players per team, 9 on each will be 'snipers' who are complete and utter dead weight to the team, who never cap or protect objectives, who never actually seem to lower their scope and do nothing but look at their own K\D. They also don't fit in to a shooter based around teamwork. I personally thing the class needs a RADICAL redesign, or left as is but limited to 2 per team per game. Because right now, having snipers on your own team almost gurantees you've lost. Especially if there is more than 3.
Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.11 20:46:00 - [2] - Quote AMARRKIS wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: I don't think the real problem is a single sniper, or a handful of snipers. When I begin to get pissed at snipers it is when theres like a dozen that wont go out in the field because they to scared and just sit back under the mcc or something sniping entire match. I see this alot on the Manus peak map , I believe that's the map.. It happens so often that now when I see the trend begin , I say fk it and grab a militia sniper aswell.. no point in me suiciding A sniper is not meant to go on the frontlines so i dont see how you can be mad about that. If I have a sniper rifle im not going to go to the front lines Please go back and read my post about the difference between a Designated Marksman and a Sniper. Let me make this clear: You are NOT a sniper. There is NO sniper class in this game! It is INCORRECTLY named and you're actually playing as a Designated Marksman. You're job is to extend the operational (Read: Lethal) range of your squad. You are supposed to be on the front line, right next to your squad leader hitting priority targets and suppressing others so the actual killers of your unit (HMGs and AR) can get close enough to cause the real damage. A sniper, that is, a true sniper... is more of a scout. He rarely fires his gun and spends 99% of his time on a radio. A marksman however is with the squad, giving them nearly double the lethal range and covering the rest of the squad with accurate fire. If you lone wolf, you're doing it COMPLETELY wrong.
Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.12 22:33:00 - [3] - Quote AMARRKIS wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: AMARRKIS wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: lol First off I never mentioned the scout suit and all I said was a sniper rifle is essentially a weapon with a low RoF and high damage output and in alot of situations actually does a good job when used on the frontline, makes perfect sense to me. Maybe if you tried it more often instead of camping in a high place you will begin to understand. my fault you said sniper in your second post, most of the time when someone says sniper they kinda mine the whole thing suit and all. Also i was not being closed minded to your comment. I said that is not what the sniper rifle is built for, and your really not on the front line if you have enough time for your sniper to steady for a shot. Just to say but if your shooting before hand then by all means you go and revolutionize but ill stick to what is was meant for thanks. Well your no fun like I said before, close minded sigh I guess you just want to keep this going huh fine then LIKE I SAID BEFORE OK STAY WITH ME. The Sniper Rifle is MEANT for long distance OK YOU STILL WITH ME it in no way WAS MEANT for SHORT RANGE/ FRONT LINES but some how you dont seem to understand that Bzzt. Wrong. Sniper Rifles are not meant for long range. Any gun can do long range (A standard rifle can hit targets at 500 meters, 300 accurately). The point of a sniper rifle is to hit targets between 3 and 600 meters ACCURATELY . That's the key difference. It's not made for range, it's made for precision. The range is a by-product of that. Please for the love of all that is holy, stop with the over romanized idea of a sniper being a lone wolf killer hiding in the long grass. It does not exist and the fact it's perpetuated HURTS team based FPS games!
Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.12 22:57:00 - [4] - Quote AMARRKIS wrote: ANNNT WRONG, SORRY, U ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE!!! Yes it is meant for precision but it is mean for precision over LONG RANGE or there wouldn't be a scope that has great power than a assault rifle. Tho yes you can use one closer, The sniper rifle that is in the game (which i should have stated early) is not meant for such a thing. Going a little off point here... You've never fired a gun, have you? It has a scope so it's precise. Telescopic sights exist for Designated Marksmen to do their job easier (Extend accurate, lethal engagement range of their squad, remember when I said that part?)... gun's are not easy to aim, nothing like a video game, son. If we're talking about the game, well then it's still a redundant, useless tool that can have it's role filled more efficiently by someone in Assault Gear using the Tac Rifle with Sharpshooter 5. A sniper does 1 thing in this game... And it does it poorly. A good sniper is better, but he's still gimping himself by a weapon with limited and difficult application. Anyone else get the feeling they're talking to a wall? Dude, seriously, defend the play style all you want, it don't change the fact it's from a long gone and long dead genre of FPS gaming. It has no place in modern shooters, it contributes nothing.