1. a forge can pop a dropship out of the sky the breach has poor range because its a breach varient
2. thats a issue with the heavy suit
3. theres nothing to hear any way
4. thats the heavy suit not the forge
5. thats the type your using get a different forge
6. the rounds also one shot everything
7. forges are shock and awe people scatter when they see that christmas tree
8. you should be able to one shot anything with a forge if you can aim
9. thats the price of having damage measured in 1000s

this wouldnt even affect thier ability to kill tanks its a nerf aimed at stopping thier AI uses whats the problem with stopping a weapon from being used as a AI when its clearly meant to be AV?

edit: obviously they dont one shot tanks or dropships but thats not what this tread is aimed at its aimed at stopping a AV weapon from being used as a AI weapon which the forges is fairly effective at

wow you must be horrible at aim since a forge one shots everything +1 forge dont need splash being AV weapons.

not realy a nerf it still have the smae killing power vs tanks and dropships since you dont really use splash to take them out your use the direct damage makes sense all it would do is stop people from using it as a AI weapon

How did you know Im so horrible? I tried keeping it a secret...

I'll give you 2mil isk if you run a forge only alt and get a K/D ratio of over 1 with a minimum sample of 200 kills or deaths, whichever happens first.

EDIT: And of course by forge only alt I mean no shooting at vehicles and no sidearms as this would skew the K/D ratio. But Im sure you can pull it off.

Im fed up that a AV weapon can be used as a anti infantry weapon. Its time to screw it up like with swarms. if you want a hand wielded railgun then you should have the same penalty. CCP should reduce the blast radius to 1.0m that should prevent it to be missused as AV weapon. Dont see a reason why a weapon that acts like a railgun shouldnt share the same penalty. Oh and reduce the blast damage to something like 100HP max.

Im fed up that a AV weapon can be used as a anti infantry weapon. Its time to screw it up like with swarms. if you want a hand wielded railgun then you should have the same penalty. CCP should reduce the blast radius to 1.0m that should prevent it to be missused as AV weapon. Dont see a reason why a weapon that acts like a railgun shouldnt share the same penalty. Oh and reduce the blast damage to something like 100HP max.

The forge gun is a handheld railgun yet it can do everything that a large railgun can do but more efficiently

The forge gun is an anti-vehicle/infantry/sniper/installation weapon while the large railgun for HAVs is only an anti-vehicle/installation weapon

Now the large railgun got nerfed because it killed infantry a bit too much, but yet the forge remains untouched

So the solution is to make the forge gun only anti-vehicle/installation so it cannot be used for fighting infantry, instead they will have to rely on ther sidearm slot to defend themselves in CQC

no its not. You can easily kill infantry with a forge if they are standing still - more fool them if they are doing this in open play. I can be sniped in 1 or 2 rounds (the later if a militia sniper with no sp) while trying to use a proto forge - and I often am as I try and chase tanks, whilst running at a snails pace. The splash damage for a forge is what? the size of a militia grenade?

The heavy can have a side weapon? Whoopee as opponents stay mid to long range. Heavies cant carry a nanohive. So no individual restocking.

Tank railguns may have had the splash damaged nerfed v infantry - and so what? A tank can have two other missile launchers that are still effective anti-infantry.

so wait, its to have a hand cannon, but its not ok for HAV's to do that much damage? if forge guns are doing 1000hp of damage, than why cant HAV's do that much damage, think about if for a moment, you have a giant machine with a giant cannon on it...


with enough firepower you'd think it would do alot of damage. But they dont and you can have something smaller and hand held and its ok for it to do more damage than something bigger than it O.o... wheres the fun in this game again?

So then buff the tank cannons then....lord knows infantry can't survive the "nerfed" damage anyway. infantry doesn't have shield boosters and shield resistance on top of shield extenders.

But don't make them harder to kill.

but if dont make them harder to kill than people will be losing lots and lots of money especially people like me the grinders with no funds in their corp to back them... Like come now, we already have hard to kill heavy troops their the infantry support, why cant the tanks be hard to kill that actually require SOME TACTICS. Instead of stupid free swarm launchers being the end all to end all.

The splash damage is the issue. No AV weapon should be able to snipe/oneshot infantry with splash damage, it's a joke.

Anybody who's worth mentioning with a forge is more than capable of this and anybody who disagree's must be crap with it.

The fact remains it's a swiss army knife at the minute and for very little investment. It can snipe, AI, AV and AA. That's pretty much the definition of OP for one guy and one weapon yet none of you see that obviously.

I'm sure you'd all have a massive problem with it if it was one guy in a tank no?, yet this is obviously balanced yes?. lol

I am beginning to think those that are calling for this nerf are trolls.