Then a plasma based assault rifle sucks and shouldn't be used. Especially since a weapon today will out perform this type of assault rifle. Guns don't get design to get worse over time . Who cares what company made something and why it works the way it does its the future just make it work. Think if Star Trek and Star Wars had to prove everything to be in the movie. Games and movies are based off art with an idea of science and this is coming from a person with a engineering degree.

Nice deversion tactic but I never said buff anything . Magically disappearing bullets,plasma,and projectiles are a bad game mechanic and people are loring bad game development

Maybe what you said is true, but I don't review dust on what its going to be. My feed back and a lot of others feedback is based off what dust is now. Also what they experienced today in a match or yesterday not a month from now. If what you say becomes a reality then myself and others will be happy or happier with dust.

I understand Eve players think Eve`s skill tree is perfection but some of these skills are not translating well from RPG to FPS. Also if dust wants to keep this awful evaporating type bullet, they need to provide a way for the player to understand what is in range and what is not in range. In other games i know im not in range because the bullet went above the enemy's head or hit the ground and i tweak my aim to adjust. In dust you really have no clue, Even allowing red boxes around players in range would make this problem go away faster than trying to out lore people.

Plus everyone hates every weapon in dust it seems , its just not the AR. This is the result of a Gear based game that is non Co-op. You cant balance levels of weapons or charge different prices for weapons and think everyone is going to be happy.

The dot in the middle of the scope turns red when a target is within firing range, same as in Halo, which has enough of a playerbase that that means of range telegraphing should be very easy to identify and adapt to.

Which is great for Halo, but Halo is alive and kicking and on a different platform, so I'm not sure where you see the major crossover here.

If you're coming into the game fresh, a red dot is too vague to be intuitive. Red is the generally accepted colour for no, but also the colour for danger. So when you put your crosshair over someone and it goes red, it's not clear what it is communicating to you at first. Is it saying no, don't fire for whatever reason, or is it saying if you fire right now you will kill a person (which is pretty dangerous)? Nothing in the game helps clear this up so it's one of those trial and error things that can frustrate people until they work it out. Unfortunately public server FPS gamers are not known for their patience and deductive skills.

Since Dust is a game that also uses the crosshair to indicate when you're hovering over a target vs pointing at a rock, it actually needs two distinct crosshair states. First, one that says if you shoot now you're going to hit. It has this now. But it also needs something different to indicate you're out of range, because you cannot understand the (lack of) indicator for being out of range without first understanding the function of the red dot.

I'll suggest a change of the full crosshair to red rather than just the central dot, followed by an extra "Out of range" message which only appears under the crosshair if you pull the trigger. It won't irritate veterans, who won't be wasting ammo firing at invalid targets anyway, but it'll immediately clue in new players to what the indicators mean.

there is a skill that levels this up, Light Weapon Sharpshooter and Sharpshooter Proficiency

Forget the posts [...]

The range skills increase your accuracy at long-range, not the point at which your bullets magically cease to be

why are you posting?

AR Range and Skills = Counter intuitive

you can skill your sharpshooter up, you want everyone to be able to snipe with AR's from the get go? NTY


this thread should be about Forge guns and Railguns, i'm sure those guys dont like they've been nerfed with range. i see no issue with this and AR's

Hard cap of sniper is ~600m, skills can make this over 850m.

The muzzle speeds are high enough many of the weapons would have no noticeable drop, max range sniper shoot at the top of head would hit bottom of head.

call of duty is hitscan, halo is hitscan(halo 3 wasn't), team fortress 2 is hitscan.
Gears of war and borderlands have projectiles with travel time. Boarderlands has a hard range limit.

I understand battlefield uses around 8-9 times the drop a real bullet has, with dust muzzle speeds over double real life speeds, a realistic drop would not be noticeable.

Minmatar projectile rifles using battlefield like physics would be nice. The plasma ar having travel time would be nice, maybe purple tracers so people know it's not a regular bullet.

The hmg and smg are so close ranged they will hit max range in a frame or two, so hit scan just saves resources that are not needed. Maybe hitscan to optimal, pause and second hitscan after pause to max range for smg and hmg, still probably not worth cpu cycles. We don't need fps to drop when hmgs fire.

Better explaining how mechanics work to new players would be a good thing.