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Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:30:00 -
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I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. 
I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble.  |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:33:00 -
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If you are shooting someone and you have them dead in your sights, strafe left to right instead of moving the direction stick. Maybe that will help. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:41:00 -
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Could be a result of some issues that have been going on lately with lag and hit detection.
Thankfully next build will be entirely fixes. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:42:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble.
Weapons such as assault rifles, laser rifles, snipers, and smgs are hit-scan, meaning that all you have to do is point straight at the target.
No leading required. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:50:00 -
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I was being polite. You should have heard my QQ on comms :P |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:55:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I was being polite. You should have heard my QQ on comms :P
Bet it was annoying as f""""""" , they need a mute player option |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.31 18:57:00 -
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Diaf. Scrub. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.10.31 19:02:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Nstomper wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I was being polite. You should have heard my QQ on comms :P Bet it was annoying as f""""""" , they need a mute player option Diaf.
Like this time a dude was raging cause he was terrible with laser rifles , I had to get on my mike to cuss the dude out because he didn't stfu , would be simpler just to have a mute option |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.31 19:03:00 -
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There is a mute option you complete idiot. Like I say, DIAF. You add nothing to the Dust514 experience. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.31 19:41:00 -
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 Tony Calif wrote:I was being polite. You should have heard my QQ on comms :P
yea almost had me crying with him.
Also get good tony you scrub |
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Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2012.10.31 19:48:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I was being polite. You should have heard my QQ on comms :P Bet it was annoying as f""""""" , they need a mute player option
There is a mute function for voice comms. There's also an ignore function on these forums. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.10.31 19:59:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Rendiff Jurr wrote:I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble. Weapons such as assault rifles, laser rifles, snipers, and smgs are hit-scan, meaning that all you have to do is point straight at the target. No leading required.
The AR you have to lead |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.31 20:32:00 -
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@Enigma
AR is hit scan but it's done server side I am almost 100% sure. The leading your target side of things is almost certainly latency. Hence the shield flash triggered locally maybe.
@Sha
Crying with laughter you git :P |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.31 21:42:00 -
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Last time I tried to play the game it was completely unplayable. Today I played on the eu server and frame rate felt a little better but hit detection was **** and I kept getting lag spikes. I honestly can't stand losing gear because of a lag spike. Instead of giving myself a headache I think I am just going to take a short break from dust until next build. |
RIMSICLE BLUMPKIN
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Posted - 2012.10.31 21:50:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Last time I tried to play the game it was completely unplayable. Today I played on the eu server and frame rate felt a little better but hit detection was **** and I kept getting lag spikes. I honestly can't stand losing gear because of a lag spike. Instead of giving myself a headache I think I am just going to take a short break from dust until next build.
You and thousands of others.
I've found the best way to play this carp is not to play it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.10.31 22:08:00 -
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First, you might want to turn sensitivity down a little (by turning it up- I heard that the lower the number, the more sensitive it is, and vice versa)
Also: if you're having problems with accuracy, I would suggest using a burst assault rifle- last build, it had a much tighter spread than other ARs (this build, they all shoot perfectly in a line), higher damage because you'll hit less, and since it's burst and not single shot, you can still spray a little for fast-moving targets. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2012.10.31 22:25:00 -
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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having issues. I normally prefer the PC and Xbox, so I kinda figured that maybe I was just having an issue with the PS3 (I've never liked the controller), I bought an Xbox style controller for the PS3 but that hasn't seemed to help much.
I have been leading with the cross hairs so that could definitely be part of the problem. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.31 22:57:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble.
not just you, CCP needs to tighten up the controls all around. not just with the analog sticks but also with the R2 button with switching weapons, it all seems too sloppy to me.
Tony Calif wrote:It's not you. I have turned from a good player into a giant ******* super scrub. Cant hit anything. I don't know if it's connection or what. I can't be arsed. The game is NOT improving in anyway and I just can't be bothered sitting through more months of ****** hit detection, lag and frame rate drops. Pile of ****.
yea, i felt decent last build, this build its like i had to relearn dust all over again
and yes, i'm glad i'm not the only one |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.11.01 02:18:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble. it's hit scan, you have to aim right at them to hit them. No leading necessary.
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frfqq
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.11.01 03:57:00 -
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Nobody, not even the best of the best, can consistently stay on target with analog sticks, especially in a laggy, stuttery game like Dust. You're not alone. I've seen gameplay from top players that reveal them erratically swinging their camera all over the place while their opponent strafes around Quake style... |
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Bug1
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:10:00 -
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I found that once i had the weapon skill to 5 it was much easier to aim. |
AltTest
Doomheim
21
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:30:00 -
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It's because CCP won't correct the ******* deadzone on the sensitivity that's been here since the first build. 
CCP, most incompetent developers of all time. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:20:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:I'm not sure if I just suck or if maybe I've got something setup incorrectly but I can't seem to get a good aim on anyone. I'm constantly over/under correcting. It's really taking the fun out of the game. I'm not new to FPS games, I've been playing them since 007 and I've never had this much trouble.
This games aiming is absolutely horrible, and it is definitely not just you. I have been playing console FPS games since at least 1997 (007 Goldeneye), and I have to fight the controls 100% of the time in this game when I play. I think luck has more to do with how well I perform than skill, in terms of aiming.
Some players are able to cope with the extremely awful aiming, including players in my corp... but that doesn't excuse the fact that the aiming mechanics in Dust 514 are one of the worst of any game I have ever played, including Killzone 2 when it first came out (worst console aiming game of all time, with Far Cry 2 in second place). |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:22:00 -
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The microfreezes in close combat are a nightmare. Its not much consolation to know the enemy likely is having the same problems.
I don't mind being killed if I simply screwed up, which happens a lot, but after sneaking up into one shot kill range and then being hit with lag for long enough for them to open fire is really pissing me off (or alternatively it just has enough effect for the weapon to jerk from side to side and completely miss the enemy while warning them i'm there  ) |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:35:00 -
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I got to say that, yesterday, I just could not hit anybody even at close range, shotgun/AR/smg my aim was all over the place. So I resorted to a spot of sniping, same issue, just about to red dot that shiny helmet and aim skipped past target.
I messed around with X/Y sensitivity to no avail.
Eventually, I just got my S/L out and chased down LAV's and tanks or shot at dropships (just to watch the pretty lights in the sky!)
Something is defo off and needs to be addressed ASAP. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:52:00 -
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I've tried messing with the X&Y sensitivity as well as turning "aim assist" on and off. None of it seems to make much of a difference. Either way aiming is terrible, staying on target is extremely difficult.
If that wasn't bad enough since they've reduced the amount of isk you get for each round I'm stuck with the standard equipment.
The game still plays more like an Alpha than a Beta. The Beta is supposed to fix minor flaws and weed out bugs. But there is still major work to be done in the game. CCP has a bad habit of pulling the trigger on things too soon, I hope for their sake they're not planning on releasing this to the general public any time soon. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:24:00 -
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Has anyone seen a major difference between using the keyboard/mouse setup versus the controller? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:28:00 -
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I ve posted about this problem multiple times. To me it seems that things got a little better since last patch but still there are 'deadzone' and skipping sensitivity issues.
One fact that is useful for new players is that X/Y sensitivity scale is reversed - 0 mad sensitivity, 100 % slow reticle movement but better control. |
angelarch
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:29:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:Has anyone seen a major difference between using the keyboard/mouse setup versus the controller?
as far as hit detection i haven't noticed a real different between mouse or controller. If it is bad on one, it is bad on the other in my experience.
The micro-freezes are what is really driving me mad lately. And they always happen to me right when something important comes into view, as if the game suddenly has to draw something new and the PS3 can't handle it. . . like coming around a corner to shoot someone, freeze, unfreeze, i'm already dead.
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drive at high speed around some rocks to race by a blockade of mercs, freeze as soon as they come into view, unfreeze now my steering is sideways and the LAV is stuck right in front of the group of reds-- click- i'm dead.
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climb up the stairs to ambush reds at the null cannon, freeze, unfreeze, i'm already dead.
OMG it's driving me nuts. . .
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Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2012.11.02 08:54:00 -
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Yep. Controls fells like worse version of aiming lag on the release of BF3 for me. I am overshotting and over correcting all the time.
Hard to say if it's acceleration curves, deadzone, or aiming lag but definitely it is off. Add to that slow movement and turning, too long granade throw animations and R2 "wheel of laggy switching disaster" and FPS fans might not be pleased at all.
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