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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.10.03 15:38:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:I have no problems with the straffing right now. As a matter of fact im enjoying it. I was able to take out some of the bigger playas out here.
Adapt!
Unfortunately the way that many people adapt will be to just camp. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:14:00 -
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Chankk Saotome wrote:Yes, because it makes perfect sense that people can strafe and run backwards just as fast as sprinting forward.
I think it's more a balancing of realism than strafe combat in close quarters.
By the way, if you're depending on bouncing around a guy in tight quarters to kill him you should probably go back to CoD. No offense.
If we're going to go the realism route my Scout Suit should be able to backflip and do Parkour to compensate for strafing as slow as a heavy. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:19:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:I have no problems with the straffing right now. As a matter of fact im enjoying it. I was able to take out some of the bigger playas out here.
Adapt! Unfortunately the way that many people adapt will be to just camp.
Dude! Camping does not win games! Period! And if people think that camping is gonna get them somewhere, it wont! Squad up and communicate! As far as campers are concerned;- track em, find em - kill em! |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:32:00 -
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I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:56:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring.
Dude! Amen for the friendly fire! I would love to see friendly fire enabled. That and the repair of LAVs in the spawn point! BTW some dudes I know did kill the warriors while they were sp farming in their spawn points. It can be done. Just needs a pair of b@lls and some smart thinking!
Other than that I have to disagree with what you have said. There is recoil. Try using the AR, HMG, Forges or Swarms without upgrading your skills.
About targets standing still, just kill them!
You got some skills I'll will give you that! But as I have been saying about New Eden;- Adapt! |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:08:00 -
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haha cyclopse snipers. this game gets worse and more rushed with every build. i sense the panic rising. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:08:00 -
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Are you trolling? Your posted somewhere that you don't see any change in the radar either. Or strafe speed. Or recoil now. I don't mean to be rude but you are wrong on all accounts... Only way I intend to adapt is to not spend money on the game. I bought -ú1.59 before the update because precursor showed promise. Wasted my money, very happy I didn't buy a merc pack. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:15:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Are you trolling? Your posted somewhere that you don't see any change in the radar either. Or strafe speed. Or recoil now. I don't mean to be rude but you are wrong on all accounts...
I said I didnt see any noticeable change in the radar. I also said I am loving the strafe speed. I never said anything about the strafe speed not changing. And you mean to tell the ARs have no recoil when it does? Trying scoping in or hip fire and let me know! Pay attention son!
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Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:17:00 -
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AR hardly have recoil, I have AR I and its too easy. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:18:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring.
Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game.
Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting.
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:22:00 -
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Yeah the way things are going it appears CCP is trying to completely remove player skill out of the equation. Why stop with no strafing? Lets make it so that gear is the only thing that matters, so that someone with a militia AR will be insta-killed by a duvolle. I mean so what if last build someone could kill a prototype player with militia gear because because they had more skill.
I'm glad CCP finally nerfed player skill it was way too OP. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:27:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting.
Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man!
Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"!
Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield! |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:27:00 -
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Dont you mean they added mass to all the infantry? |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:37:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting. Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man! Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"! Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield!
1) who are you? 2) You like most everyone else, probably were in a group of 5-10 guys running around the map picking off 1 player at a time. Ooh look at me I killed Youncuz with my 5 other buddies, oooh I am big boy now..
Where are you on the leaderboard, where is Youngcuz at? hmm I wonder who is the better player..
Ok, now that the Epeen kid had his post can we get back to real discussions about the game. |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:43:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting. Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man! Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"! Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield! 1) who are you? 2) You like most everyone else, probably were in a group of 5-10 guys running around the map picking off 1 player at a time. Ooh look at me I killed Youncuz with my 5 other buddies, oooh I am big boy now.. Where are you on the leaderboard, where is Youngcuz at? hmm I wonder who is the better player.. Ok, now that the Epeen kid had his post can we get back to real discussions about the game. best thing that could have happened to dust is if you lot hadnt been invited. notice the past tense, because dust is already dead, gone too far to save. you lot circle jerking the devs and they for being silly enough to listen to you. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:02:00 -
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i feel like most of the players who suggest "go back to call of duty" have never played call of duty...
strafe speed in CoD is (particularly while aiming) actually fairly slow, player health is miniscule, and jumping is token at best. you dropshot in CoD, not bunnyhop. it does maintain some air of an arcade feeling due to rapid respawns and small maps. you die in CoD. you die very easily, but who cares?
what you guys are probably thinking of is halo. halo has high player health, high mobility, and strong jumps. now halo is a fine game, so i don't see the problem if dust ends up a little bit like it.
what you guys seem to be asking for however, without really realizing it, is probably something more akin to full spectrum warrior or Americas army. the problem with them is that they're not actually shooters. they're sort of slow paced real time strategy games hiding behind a shooter interface. but i think it's what you want. movement is very slow and deliberate, because even a single shot can incapacitate. there is no such thing as respawning, because REALISM! it's also incredibly un-fun...
so yah, i'll take halo over full spectrum warrior all day. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:13:00 -
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Lonewolf514 wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting. Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man! Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"! Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield! 1) who are you? 2) You like most everyone else, probably were in a group of 5-10 guys running around the map picking off 1 player at a time. Ooh look at me I killed Youncuz with my 5 other buddies, oooh I am big boy now.. Where are you on the leaderboard, where is Youngcuz at? hmm I wonder who is the better player.. Ok, now that the Epeen kid had his post can we get back to real discussions about the game. best thing that could have happened to dust is if you lot hadnt been invited. notice the past tense, because dust is already dead, gone too far to save. you lot circle jerking the devs and they for being silly enough to listen to you.
Invited? who says any of us were invited.. I heard about the game like everyone else. Got into beta 3 builds ago, joined STB and now we are all waiting for the real game.
Dust dead? Its in beta, over dramatic much?
Circle jerking the devs.. yeah like we have an inside source to devs, wow you kids come up with some crazy stuff. Go back to sniffing glue.. If devs listened to us, we would have strafe speed as it was last build.
When you talk out of your ass like this, you remove any sign of intelligence, please keep posting so we can continue to laugh at your ridicules accusations.
Who are you really, im betting your just an alt avatar and don't have the balls to post with your real avatar.
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:20:00 -
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I'm going to miss being able to take on 5 nubs at once dance around their bullets matrix style, but I think its a good change, the hardcore players are still hardcore they just have to play different and give up the black leather trench coat, the game isn't getting dumber its just becoming more tactical and requiring a higher level of team work.
This change perfectly resembles New Eden, one pilot rarely takes on 5 and wins, there is exceptions of course but generally teamwork beats elite solo dude. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:22:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I'm going to miss being able to take on 5 nubs at once dance around their bullets matrix style, but I think its a good change, the hardcore players are still hardcore they just have to play different and give up the black leather trench coat, the game isn't getting dumber its just becoming more tactical and requiring a higher level of team work.
This change perfectly resembles New Eden, one pilot rarely takes on 5 and wins, there is exceptions of course but generally teamwork beats elite solo dude.
Couldnt have said it better myself! +1 for you! |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:26:00 -
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Guess what, I don't play EvE. Do you people even remember that Dust is aimed at PS3 FPS players? Or is it an EvE expansion. I don't want to have to get militant about EvE players again... |
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:34:00 -
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Well you might as well get used to eve players, cause they will be the ones paying your contracts and blasting you from orbit/stopping people blasting you from orbit.
And um yes it is an eve expansion, if you don't like that fact by all means uninstall.
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:56:00 -
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Erm... Wrong buddy. Sounds like I do need to put EvEtards in their place.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/
Sure, it links to EvE. But it's a ps3 FPS game. Notice where they say Dust wasnt even going to be linked to EvE. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:11:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring.
This game has devolved into camping and holding down R1 with an AR to get kills.
The Standard Assault Rifle has little recoil. Anybody that thinks it has recoil go play KZ2 then come back to this game and see if you change your mind. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:19:00 -
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Killzone is the only high recoil, high health game I can think of. +1 Proto (getcha forum game up yo) |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:49:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting. Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man! Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"! Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield!
there's me thinking they were going to fix the people leaving server to save their K/D issue, and people being disconected halfway through a game and not getting any isk/sp. sure i read it somewhere a few weeks ago. guess it didnt get into this patch
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Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.10.03 20:02:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Tony Calif wrote:I'm just fed up of games which are designed for the lowest skill level available. Everything I'd heard about a hardcore, unforgiving new Eden seems like a pile of BS. No friendly fire, no recoil, targets pretty much stand still, and massively OP orbital strikes. Which you get for repairing stuff. In your spawn.
Btw, camping does win games of you do it right. But its very boring. Wow, agreed. I wanted a new Tough, harder then normal FPSMMO. What I am getting is the kiddie version of that same game. Dust is slowing down with each build, instead of fights we get groups attacking groups. There is no real skill in your mob of players vs my mob of players. Thats why the poster above sees no difference Tony, he is not skill fighting. Lolz @ me not skill fighting! Youngcuz went negative against me last night! Thats Mr NoSkill for you! ForkU and the other dude rage quit last night in the same game! Atleast Youngcuz stayed on and took his beating like a man! Oh and BTW STB and a lot of the other top alliances have in the past invited me to join them because I have "Skillz"! Im done with y'all! Enjoy and see ya on the battlefield! 1) who are you? 2) You like most everyone else, probably were in a group of 5-10 guys running around the map picking off 1 player at a time. Ooh look at me I killed Youncuz with my 5 other buddies, oooh I am big boy now.. Where are you on the leaderboard, where is Youngcuz at? hmm I wonder who is the better player.. Ok, now that the Epeen kid had his post can we get back to real discussions about the game.
Okay, so you are stating that he is using the same tactics that I have seen STB use on many occasions. No this is not aimed at you DP. I have played with you or against you less than the rest of STB so I will not comment on your play style at all. I will however not reed you insult people on the same tactics that youncuz, quickgloves and doe use more than anyone I have seen. But this was called working as a team ask them they will say it was. Go ahead ask that will be the answer.
P.S. Sorry I wanted to get back on topic but I could not watch someone that have took advice from and respected for a good while now try to rip someone for the way that they play the game. In your own words the "best way to play is how you are comfortable playing it". |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.03 20:08:00 -
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Goat of Dover wrote:Okay, so you are stating that he is using the same tactics that I have seen STB use on many occasions. No this is not aimed at you DP. I have played with you or against you less than the rest of STB so I will not comment on your play style at all. I will however not reed you insult people on the same tactics that youncuz, quickgloves and doe use more than anyone I have seen. But this was called working as a team ask them they will say it was. Go ahead ask that will be the answer.
P.S. Sorry I wanted to get back on topic but I could not watch someone that have took advice from and respected for a good while now try to rip someone for the way that they play the game. In your own words the "best way to play is how you are comfortable playing it".
+1 for you! |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.10.03 20:14:00 -
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Now on subject. The AR has almost no recoil now I noticed it was off last night but I could not put my finger on it. Thank you for pointing that out. Now the staffe speed I didn't notice any change last night, now I did not do any big testing on it but I will look into it more tonight. But I must agree that a big issue with it might be that people are getting hit more now do to the increase in hit detection. In turn if you get hit when you are supposed to you will die faster so people might see it that they died because they are slower when in truth it was that they are getting hit more, or maybe a little bit of both.
As far as the lone wolf goes never and I say never should anybody without a serious jump on 3 or more people that know how to play walk out alive in any CQC situation. That is just stupid, we are not action heroes and losing in that situation is reality. I think some people might not see it that way but it is the truth. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:15:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Guess what, I don't play EvE. Do you people even remember that Dust is aimed at PS3 FPS players? Or is it an EvE expansion. I don't want to have to get militant about EvE players again...
Isn't it both? |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:16:00 -
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I still haven't read or experienced anything that puts recent changes in a negative light.
The changes are for the better. |
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