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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:37:00 -
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Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds?? |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:38:00 -
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rather have strike spam than tank spam |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:41:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:rather have strike spam than tank spam
I'd rather have tank spam because most of the time you had enough time to say oh kittens before your dead |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:41:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:rather have strike spam than tank spam
So you like being killed over and over by some SP/WP farmer back at the SPAWN?
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:47:00 -
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only been killed once so far, while I was in a group of players never while im alone
better than 3 people shooting at me from a tank |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds??
Let's ignore the flame war that is starting up here. I agree that this is an issue. What's the point of training up any skills if there are going to be constant Precision strikes and OBs. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:52:00 -
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Sephoran Griffith wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds?? Let's ignore the flame war that is starting up here. I agree that this is an issue. What's the point of training up any skills if there are going to be constant Precision strikes and OBs.
Agreed. I only mentioned tanks as they are an example of expensive gear being lost to PS/OB spam. And true whats the point of training any skill if all our equipment is going kitten from the spam.
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:54:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds?? Let's ignore the flame war that is starting up here. I agree that this is an issue. What's the point of training up any skills if there are going to be constant Precision strikes and OBs. Agreed. I only mentioned tanks as they are an example of expensive gear being lost to PS/OB spam. And true whats the point of training any skill if all our equipment is going kitten from the spam. I was using your example this is the same way I felt every time I lost my proto loadout to a tank over and over
shoe is on the other foot yo |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:58:00 -
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If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:03:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds?? Let's ignore the flame war that is starting up here. I agree that this is an issue. What's the point of training up any skills if there are going to be constant Precision strikes and OBs. Agreed. I only mentioned tanks as they are an example of expensive gear being lost to PS/OB spam. And true whats the point of training any skill if all our equipment is going kitten from the spam. I was using your example this is the same way I felt every time I lost my proto loadout to a tank over and over shoe is on the other foot yo
Yeah!!! AGREED! I am a tank and my tank with 600 armour/ forge gun SMG combo dies from just about EVERYTHING!!! I LOVE!! loosing all my gear to PS/OB spam!! Dying over and over and over to some SP FARMER in the SPAWN really makes my day!!
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:06:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds?? Let's ignore the flame war that is starting up here. I agree that this is an issue. What's the point of training up any skills if there are going to be constant Precision strikes and OBs. Agreed. I only mentioned tanks as they are an example of expensive gear being lost to PS/OB spam. And true whats the point of training any skill if all our equipment is going kitten from the spam. I was using your example this is the same way I felt every time I lost my proto loadout to a tank over and over shoe is on the other foot yo Yeah!!! AGREED! I am a tank and my tank with 600 armour/ forge gun SMG combo dies from just about EVERYTHING!!! I LOVE!! loosing all my gear to PS/OB spam!! Dying over and over and over to some SP FARMER in the SPAWN really makes my day!! \ cant farm sp its got a cap can only farm warpoints |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:07:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
No offense, but I think you kind of missed the OPs point, not that it was very well expressed >_< |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:09:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
No!.....just no. With OB/PS being spammed every thirty or twenty seconds then its sure death to deploy a HAV or spawn in any area due to this problem.
Spawn as a heavy? death from OB/PS spam. Spawn as a scout? dead. Assault? dead.
LAV to run fast? dead from PS spam. HAV? DEAD from PS spam. Dropship? dead from PS spam.
Solution??? spawn inside MCC and stay there.
NOT! any fun at all.
Please fix.
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:10:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
I'm curious what gunners would do to save you from PS's.
Also, what modules (speed boost?) can give you a fighting chance to make it out from the middle of a PS strike? Are there any that give you advanced warning of a strike? |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:15:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
Whilst I agree with you statement, I also believe you are missing the OP's point that the Orbital Strike is overly easy to get and maintain which leads to the strikes being called in far to frequently.
Most people like and enjoy the Orbital Strike but it needs to be rarer...much...much more rarer. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:15:00 -
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you'd have to have some serious shield resistances in order to survive a orbital strike in a tank. other then that, whenever people used one on me, i usually saw it and just backed out of the way. it was funny watching non-stop orbital strikes on my tank be wasted. with that said, this was before the update. so for all i know the orbital strikes, strike much faster or something. |
Vane KoS
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:20:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
I don't think you read the post. This wasn't a rant about tanks being too weak.
I never drove a tank in my life but I can see the issue.
As a forge gunner the lack of tanks in the field is a bit depressing.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:21:00 -
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Khortez D wrote:you'd have to have some serious shield resistances in order to survive a orbital strike in a tank. other then that, whenever people used one on me, i usually saw it and just backed out of the way. it was funny watching non-stop orbital strikes on my tank be wasted. with that said, this was before the update. so for all i know the orbital strikes, strike much faster or something.
In last build they talked about reducing the warning to two seconds or less. Right now continual PS are instadeath for 99 out of 100 clones. Oh well back to militia only gear and not bothering with skilling anything. No need to train anything. Lack of SP fixed.
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Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:22:00 -
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Khortez D wrote:you'd have to have some serious shield resistances in order to survive a orbital strike in a tank. other then that, whenever people used one on me, i usually saw it and just backed out of the way. it was funny watching non-stop orbital strikes on my tank be wasted. with that said, this was before the update. so for all i know the orbital strikes, strike much faster or something.
The warning delay was shortened significantly. It used to be rare to get caught out in the rain, but now I understand the warning is less of a "Get away now" and more of a "You are about to die" statement. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:24:00 -
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Vane KoS wrote:GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! I don't think you read the post. This wasn't a rant about tanks being too weak. I never drove a tank in my life but I can see the issue. As a forge gunner the lack of tanks in the field is a bit depressing.
Time to practice your skills against LAV's and infantry. I don't think you will see enough tanks or dropships this build to make it worth it. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:27:00 -
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You can create a new topic in this section : Feedback/Requests requesting exactly what you want the game improve. Since the "general discussion" section is not the appropriate for this kind of discussion.
thanks! |
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Skytt Syysch
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
235
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:28:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Khortez D wrote:you'd have to have some serious shield resistances in order to survive a orbital strike in a tank. other then that, whenever people used one on me, i usually saw it and just backed out of the way. it was funny watching non-stop orbital strikes on my tank be wasted. with that said, this was before the update. so for all i know the orbital strikes, strike much faster or something. The warning delay was shortened significantly. It used to be rare to get caught out in the rain, but now I understand the warning is less of a "Get away now" and more of a "You are about to die" statement.
They cut the warning time AND increased the radius. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:35:00 -
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our new best friend is gonna be afterburners |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:35:00 -
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why should we even get a warning? |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:37:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! I think they mean how OBs one shot a tank.
So it won't matter what you fit or how high you train |
ProudCaliber Highwind
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:43:00 -
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yah really. see my warning and before i can even accelerate im dead. i can understand if your fast enough to be in your armor or low low shields but your health is there then gone. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.02 20:45:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:why should we even get a warning?
i dont like dying silently in a blaze of glory |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2012.10.02 21:29:00 -
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if your tank only has 1000 shield, and 1000 armor. it should get killed by OB, with out much of a problem... its day 2 of this build, build a better tank and you-Śll see. Or use a lot of speed boosters. |
Volek Tahn
Greatness Achieved Through Training
8
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:15:00 -
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I've dodged about half of the precision strikes called near my dropsuit. It's not that hard if you move immediately. The problem is when 2 or 3 are coming down and slightly spaced around an objective or something. You run away from one, only to be bombarded by the next one.
Possible fix for the players that are farming WP in their spawns: don't let them earn WP while in their 'safety zone'. Force them to run out onto the battlefield if they want to earn any points. I would gladly hunt down any players doing it on the edge of the red zone. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:18:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! idk. i was already assisting a buddy in his tank, shield tank so its faster, n we still couldn't get out of OB's. he lost 3 tanks minimum to OB's. two in one round |
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charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
159
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:41:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
Dev Hercules with all due respect you are missing the point. Look at the forums since the new build there are a ton with complaints about people SP farming, cheating, to get strikes they didn't earn through normal game play which is a violation of the EULA. Rather than tell players to work better as a team or equip better modules how about banning the cheaters who are disregarding the rules they agree to each time they launch Dust. If this is not fixed by banning the SP farmers you will have a great game that nobody wants to play. These cheaters found this exploit last build and the SP cap you implemented did nothing to deter them. They are no longer doing this to help the game by finding exploits they are doing it to grief others and should be stopped not with another warning or tweak to the code but with a ban. Make an example here for the good of the future of Dust and send the message CCP will not allow people to disregard the EULA while laughing at you for not holding them accountable. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.02 23:41:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38804&find=unread
Thread in the feedback section regarding this issue.
I've seen several threads on this in both general and feedback with (collectively) the following summery.
1. Increase WP needed to earn a OB/PS ~2700 seems about right (or roughly double the current rate) 2. Do not count WP gained by use of a OB/PS toward the acquisition of another. 3. Change WP awards for use of an OB/PS such that all squad members earn assists from kills made via the OB/PS (as opposed to current system where squad leaders are awarded kills and others are given nothing)
The following three changes should resolve any further issues with regards to this imbalance. |
Ironic Kitten
Mecha Trained Assault Cats
23
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:04:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:only been killed once so far, while I was in a group of players never while im alone
better than 3 people shooting at me from a tank No -- the O/S death you had last night was while you were trying to take a defended while another player called the OS down. The kill while you were in the group of players was either an assault rifle or a grenade -- I can't remember which |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:24:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
lolwut?
i got a triple kill on a tank via Orbital strike 1. no time to get away and 2. u can get them like every 20-30 secs |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
142
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:38:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
Translation: HTFU boys and girls! Nobody's invincible. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.10.03 01:42:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! lololol! Wow! Really?! Damage control FAIL! |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.03 05:52:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:You can create a new topic in this section : Feedback/Requests requesting exactly what you want the game improve. Since the "general discussion" section is not the appropriate for this kind of discussion. thanks!
Game Developers time is very limited so the first thing is to see if there is a problem on an elongated front that impacts a significant playerbase number.
With all due respect but before creating a request thread the proper problem solution protocol is to VERIFY if others are also seeing the problem and thus a general talk/discusion thus follows.
THEN when the problem has been identified to be WIDESPREAD then a request thread is done to provide possible player generated solutions to be included in said request thread pending eventual final and evolving fixes generated by the Game Developers that may or may not include player generated solutions to the aforementioned problem.
Thank you.
Possible solutions: 1. increase WP needed. 2. kills from OB / PS do not count towards a new one. 3. cool down timer. 4.vehicle repairs do not generate WP for strikes. 5.strikes either damage vehicles or infantry but not! both. 6.selectable EMP strikes 7. 100 K ISK cost per strike for PS. |
Tyler Hall
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.10.03 06:32:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Whats the point of training tanks if folks are going to spam OB/PS strikes every twenty seconds??
I agree, the OB is getting very very old very very fast. there are at least 10 to 20 per match. i could see that if we had 120 players on the field, but man what a joke. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:09:00 -
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crazy space wrote:GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! I think they mean how OBs one shot a tank. So it won't matter what you fit or how high you train
Agreed! It makes wasting millions of sp to train tanks pointless.
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Frank A
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:23:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:GM Hercules wrote:You can create a new topic in this section : Feedback/Requests requesting exactly what you want the game improve. Since the "general discussion" section is not the appropriate for this kind of discussion. thanks! Game Developers time is very limited so the first thing is to see if there is a problem on an elongated front that impacts a significant playerbase number. With all due respect but before creating a request thread the proper problem solution protocol is to VERIFY if others are also seeing the problem and thus a general talk/discusion thus follows. THEN when the problem has been identified to be WIDESPREAD then a request thread is done to provide possible player generated solutions to be included in said request thread pending eventual final and evolving fixes generated by the Game Developers that may or may not include player generated solutions to the aforementioned problem. Thank you. Possible solutions: 1. increase WP needed. 2. kills from OB / PS do not count towards a new one. 3. cool down timer. 4.vehicle repairs do not generate WP for strikes.5.strikes either damage vehicles or infantry but not! both. 6.selectable EMP strikes 7. 100 K ISK cost per strike for PS.
All you need is the one bolded - problem solved |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:00:00 -
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Frank A wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:GM Hercules wrote:You can create a new topic in this section : Feedback/Requests requesting exactly what you want the game improve. Since the "general discussion" section is not the appropriate for this kind of discussion. thanks! Game Developers time is very limited so the first thing is to see if there is a problem on an elongated front that impacts a significant playerbase number. With all due respect but before creating a request thread the proper problem solution protocol is to VERIFY if others are also seeing the problem and thus a general talk/discusion thus follows. THEN when the problem has been identified to be WIDESPREAD then a request thread is done to provide possible player generated solutions to be included in said request thread pending eventual final and evolving fixes generated by the Game Developers that may or may not include player generated solutions to the aforementioned problem. Thank you. Possible solutions: 1. increase WP needed. 2. kills from OB / PS do not count towards a new one. 3. cool down timer. 4.vehicle repairs do not generate WP for strikes.5.strikes either damage vehicles or infantry but not! both. 6.selectable EMP strikes 7. 100 K ISK cost per strike for PS. All you need is the one bolded - problem solved
Commander Wang Sir Philip Wang just tweeted that lets give it a few days before the Elves are sent in to fix things. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
265
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Posted - 2012.10.03 14:18:00 -
[42] - Quote
Got a link Tech? |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:56:00 -
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actually I was doing turret for a tank driver and never died once all we did was watch for the blue lazor of death and make sure the driver was aware of incoming bombardments so he could
1:drive away
or
2:get under something |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.04 06:54:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Got a link Tech?
Sir Philip Wang Commander Wang Twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/ccp_cmdrwang
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.04 06:57:00 -
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i have seen a lot of times as soon as a tank or a dropship enters the map they are immediately hit with bombardments and toasted.
i know this because i called in some of them. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.04 07:06:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:i have seen a lot of times as soon as a tank or a dropship enters the map they are immediately hit with bombardments and toasted.
i know this because i called in some of them.
Sadly true and it makes tanks and dropships pointless. But even worse is the absent thrill of the hunt of the lone forge gunner engageing and killing a heavy marauder sagaris tank That fun is gone from this build.
It also makes training any kind of AV specialty also pointless since basic or even militia swarms easily kill the LAvs that everyones using.
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:50:00 -
[47] - Quote
GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it!
Yes, but the problem with precision strikes remain. There is the need of a cooldown timer. During fanfest you said that orbital strikes would have had a timer so that you couldn't just spam Battleship Rounds on the ground, why didn't you limit the precision strike too? |
Cyn1de
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:55:00 -
[48] - Quote
Frank A wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:GM Hercules wrote:You can create a new topic in this section : Feedback/Requests requesting exactly what you want the game improve. Since the "general discussion" section is not the appropriate for this kind of discussion. thanks! Game Developers time is very limited so the first thing is to see if there is a problem on an elongated front that impacts a significant playerbase number. With all due respect but before creating a request thread the proper problem solution protocol is to VERIFY if others are also seeing the problem and thus a general talk/discusion thus follows. THEN when the problem has been identified to be WIDESPREAD then a request thread is done to provide possible player generated solutions to be included in said request thread pending eventual final and evolving fixes generated by the Game Developers that may or may not include player generated solutions to the aforementioned problem. Thank you. Possible solutions: 1. increase WP needed. 2. kills from OB / PS do not count towards a new one. 3. cool down timer. 4.vehicle repairs do not generate WP for strikes.5.strikes either damage vehicles or infantry but not! both. 6.selectable EMP strikes 7. 100 K ISK cost per strike for PS. All you need is the one bolded - problem solved
If vehicle repairing doesn't generate WPs for a Logi, kills shouldn't generate WPs for Assault, Scout, or Heavy. Seeing as how you are basically kneecapping the class and taking away there best and fastest way to earn WP and SP |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:52:00 -
[49] - Quote
Damage needs to be tracked "By Enemy" and "Total HP". Repairing the enemy damage should award WP, repairing 'other' damage should not. Problem solved.
Of course, then they have to write a routing to track the damage seperately, which sucks, and it's probably not going to be done that way.
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I watched a dude get his Gunnlogi with missile turrets get popped by a Precision Strike. That has to suck, had to be at least a half mil in mods lost to guys washing a car back at base.
I've found that if you keep moving and don't sit still, you can easily dodge the Precision Strike in a tank. Those new speed boost mods help too. The trick is to get them to shoot at you when you're in a sub-par place next to a good place. They call in the lightning, you just move 10 yards away (meters for you metric guys) and resume shelling the enemy while the strike goes on. Seems they can't call in two at the same time, so you're golden. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:04:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! No!.....just no. With OB/PS being spammed every thirty or twenty seconds then its sure death to deploy a HAV or spawn in any area due to this problem. Spawn as a heavy? death from OB/PS spam. Spawn as a scout? dead. Assault? dead. LAV to run fast? dead from PS spam. HAV? DEAD from PS spam. Dropship? dead from PS spam. Solution??? spawn inside MCC and stay there. NOT! any fun at all. Please fix.
Dont forget when this **** goes live there are no precision strikes only OB delivered by capsuleers. And considering how unbalanced an OB fit will be on a space ship they will be very vulnerable to ships that have more balanced fits. OB's and PS are an anoyance we will have to slog through in beta because they dont have it conected to the risk capsuleers will have to put on the line to deliver it to us. |
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nakamakazi
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Corban Lahnder wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:GM Hercules wrote:If you drive a tank by yourself, there is a big possibility to get kill in a few seconds; but if you use the appropriate modules in your fittings and other two friends help you as well, you will enjoy it! No!.....just no. With OB/PS being spammed every thirty or twenty seconds then its sure death to deploy a HAV or spawn in any area due to this problem. Spawn as a heavy? death from OB/PS spam. Spawn as a scout? dead. Assault? dead. LAV to run fast? dead from PS spam. HAV? DEAD from PS spam. Dropship? dead from PS spam. Solution??? spawn inside MCC and stay there. NOT! any fun at all. Please fix. Dont forget when this **** goes live there are no precision strikes only OB delivered by capsuleers. And considering how unbalanced an OB fit will be on a space ship they will be very vulnerable to ships that have more balanced fits. OB's and PS are an anoyance we will have to slog through in beta because they dont have it conected to the risk capsuleers will have to put on the line to deliver it to us.
I don't think a lot of dust players understand the risk and coordination it will take in the future. Putting and eve battleship in orbit, while possibly other corp is coming to kill it, and gun based anti ship defenses to worry about...these strikes will not be as numerous nor a simple "it just happens cuz we repair things" occurrence.
But this precision strike bit....definitely needs to be adjusted. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:23:00 -
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I love the way the GM's response is basically "L2P!". It made me lol hard, can I have your job Hercules?
If you honestly don't see that OB's/OS's are an issue Hercules get yourself on the live server and actually play the game. It's horrendous.
You can farm them without even farming SP if you know how. My squad leader went 49-3 in one match as our squad was pretty much earning them constantly. |
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