I wouldn't say I'm crying, but whatever. I was just pointing out that you have no valid points about the HMGs, which probably also holds true for the rest of your argument.

Let the no lifers play, not like they matter outside of the game

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Does anyone really ?

If you have some sort of social life you matter tons more than no lifers

Is it such a big surprise to people that the big players in anything are "no lifers"? Bigshot CEOs who make more millions than they can spend are workaholics who work upwards of 16 hour days. Actors often work upwards of 16 hour days. Olympic athletes train all day.

Competitive gamers don't sleep well, get fat etc. whereas competitive athletes get all kinds of injuries, undergo surgeries etc. CEOs and actors make boatloads of money, but often end up alienating their families and friends, practically living on a set/their office. That's the cost of pushing yourself beyond your limits to get to the top. As an aside, I'd call a pro gamer several things, but not lazy. I don't know if anyone out there truly pees in bottles, but going for 2-3 days without sleep to make progress and then only sleeping for something like 6 hours is far far from my definition of laziness.

Being competitive means living and breathing whatever it is you're competing in. It means being passionate, driven and not really about having a "life". Those people didn't give "life" up -- they didn't care for it in the first place. Personally? I admire those people. I admire the willpower and sheer focus of them all regardless of field, be they athletes, businessmen or pro gamers.

Now, being a casual gamer myself, I mostly enjoy watching pro gamers being good at their game and pwning others. Other guys watch sports with their friends, I watch games with my friends. To each their own.

My message? Don't downplay other people's effort that got them somewhere higher than where you are now, no matter what the field. If getting to the top matters to you, try harder and chase after them. If not, hang back with the rest of us in the middle of the Bell curve, it's nice and cozy and includes lots of spare time.

Is it such a big surprise to people that the big players in anything are "no lifers"? Bigshot CEOs who make more millions than they can spend are workaholics who work upwards of 16 hour days. Actors often work upwards of 16 hour days. Olympic athletes train all day.

Competitive gamers don't sleep well, get fat etc. whereas competitive athletes get all kinds of injuries, undergo surgeries etc. CEOs and actors make boatloads of money, but often end up alienating their families and friends, practically living on a set/their office. That's the cost of pushing yourself beyond your limits to get to the top. As an aside, I'd call a pro gamer several things, but not lazy. I don't know if anyone out there truly pees in bottles, but going for 2-3 days without sleep to make progress and then only sleeping for something like 6 hours is far far from my definition of laziness.

Being competitive means living and breathing whatever it is you're competing in. It means being passionate, driven and not really about having a "life". Those people didn't give "life" up -- they didn't care for it in the first place. Personally? I admire those people. I admire the willpower and sheer focus of them all regardless of field, be they athletes, businessmen or pro gamers.

Now, being a casual gamer myself, I mostly enjoy watching pro gamers being good at their game and pwning others. Other guys watch sports with their friends, I watch games with my friends. To each their own.

My message? Don't downplay other people's effort that got them somewhere higher than where you are now, no matter what the field. If getting to the top matters to you, try harder and chase after them. If not, hang back with the rest of us in the middle of the Bell curve, it's nice and cozy and includes lots of spare time.

On the social life part, I hate people. I stay away from them. I focus on education and not partying with morons who think booze and impregnating women is fun.

Then again, I like a nice chat with a intellectual who can carry on a conversation without being boring.

Frankly, I agree with the OP.

However, it would be interesting to get someone's perspective from EVE. In theory they deal with the same potential problem.

So....any thoughts EVE players?

Isn't that a shot in the foot? No lifers are people without social lives so wouldn't that make you one as well.

Besides i think it would be better if you balanced social with your studies as being shy doesn't cut it past high school.

I'm not saying get drunk as hell but just chill

Oh of course it would be an STB member to post this ****. I can do almost as well in militia as I can in advanced with complex mods.

You sound pretty mad there buddy

It seems no one s stating this.

The instant battle feature will set matches with evenly skilled players. Since its Beta it doesn't really work yet, so quit yer fussin and be patient.

I especially love the way you rant about people with no social life, then go on to say you have no social life.

They need to put us on a more passive skill gain system, more like EVE

But then people would cry out, kitten kitten moan that they haven't got ANY chance to catchup older players. Even if they really tried. ;)

It seems like the only way to be any good at this game is to play it 24 hours of your life. IOr spend a thousand bucks to max everything out.

Skills pretty much guaranteed you will win every gunfight unmatched. A FPS and MMO are polar opposites of each other.
FPS's are supposed to be about the shooter's ability to aim and smart planning.
MMO's are about going through skill trees and making your character into jesus.

Before I start ranting, I want to say I never thought that CCP or any Devs would manage to get this close to making a MMO/FPS hybrid that is decent. They're close, but not there.

Combine these into dust and what do you get?

A game where if you don't pay to win, you must dedicate your entire life to it. Devs even said it would take 7 years to unlock everything and couch potatoes will probably unlock everything in half that amount of time compared to someone who has a job or school like me.

They can run around and pretty much be invincible because they have everything unlocked and you don't. Unless they can't aim worth a rat's tail.

So you will always be outgunned by the loser who will die from leg clots from not getting up and taking breaks. You know, the ones who are too lazy to get up so they pee in a bottle?

Doesn't this bother anyone else? Like the people who are actually good at FPS's but still get gunned down by afore mentioned loser who's "spraying" with a tactical sniper rifle one-hit-kill god gun across the map with and has 5k Shields. and when you get up close he has a submachinegun that takes you out in two hits.

This will hurt CCP in the long run because if new players spawn-in and are instantly getting spawn killed or sniped by an assault rifle in 2 hits even though they're spraying bullets in the guys face, they will think "Uh, this is supposed to be fun?" delete the game and tell they're friends how sh*tty the game is.

It seems like the only way to be any good at this game is to play it 24 hours of your life. IOr spend a thousand bucks to max everything out.

Skills pretty much guaranteed you will win every gunfight unmatched. A FPS and MMO are polar opposites of each other.
FPS's are supposed to be about the shooter's ability to aim and smart planning.
MMO's are about going through skill trees and making your character into jesus.

Before I start ranting, I want to say I never thought that CCP or any Devs would manage to get this close to making a MMO/FPS hybrid that is decent. They're close, but not there.

Combine these into dust and what do you get?

A game where if you don't pay to win, you must dedicate your entire life to it. Devs even said it would take 7 years to unlock everything and couch potatoes will probably unlock everything in half that amount of time compared to someone who has a job or school like me.

They can run around and pretty much be invincible because they have everything unlocked and you don't. Unless they can't aim worth a rat's tail.

So you will always be outgunned by the loser who will die from leg clots from not getting up and taking breaks. You know, the ones who are too lazy to get up so they pee in a bottle?

Doesn't this bother anyone else? Like the people who are actually good at FPS's but still get gunned down by afore mentioned loser who's "spraying" with a tactical sniper rifle one-hit-kill god gun across the map with and has 5k Shields. and when you get up close he has a submachinegun that takes you out in two hits.

This will hurt CCP in the long run because if new players spawn-in and are instantly getting spawn killed or sniped by an assault rifle in 2 hits even though they're spraying bullets in the guys face, they will think "Uh, this is supposed to be fun?" delete the game and tell they're friends how sh*tty the game is.