obviously the problem wasn't the AV people trying to kill multi million ISK tanks with malitia swarm launchers

They need to split the main turret from the driver and require a separate operator, that way tanks will NEED teamwork just like everyone else. Oh, and that acceleration nerf. Then they can think about upping the strength of tanks again, but not until then. So long as tanks remain solo beasts, the should be glass cannons.

seperating the turret from the driver is one of the worst ideas i've ever heard

seperating the turret from the driver is one of the worst ideas i've ever heard

seperating the turret from the driver is one of the worst ideas i've ever heard

They need to split the main turret from the driver and require a separate operator, that way tanks will NEED teamwork just like everyone else. Oh, and that acceleration nerf. Then they can think about upping the strength of tanks again, but not until then. So long as tanks remain solo beasts, the should be glass cannons.

It's the best idea I've ever heard regarding tanks. It would require tank drivers to actually, you know, communicate and use teamwork, just like dropships and LAVs and AV guys. You're right though, if you only use tanks to pad your stats because they're EZmode, then yes, this wouldn't be such a good change

Also ide like too add... This is BETA nothing is permanent... it can and will be changed... thats the whole point of testing... to discover what works and what doesnt... BETA testing really isnt a sneak peak for your enjoyment... its too further a product and make it ready for consumers...

i've tried to use team work as a tank but know one listens. I hold an objective so they can cap it, they run the other way. I ask some one if they want to gun in my tank, they call in a LAV. I ask my gunners to get out and hact the objective, they start shooting at the MCC. Usually when I try to use teamwork I get blown up which is why i've given up on team work.

Surprisingly, you are right. That obviously wasn't the problem.

Nope it was the people going 35 - 0 every single game in a tank...Multipul tanks on one teams side... GG game over.. dont collect sp, do not pass go..

Find a new Iwin button bud..


Also ide like too add... This is BETA nothing is permanent... it can and will be changed... thats the whole point of testing... to discover what works and what doesnt... BETA testing really isnt a sneak peak for your enjoyment... its too further a product and make it ready for consumers...

i've tried to use team work as a tank but know one listens. I hold an objective so they can cap it, they run the other way. I ask some one if they want to gun in my tank, they call in a LAV. I ask my gunners to get out and hact the objective, they start shooting at the MCC. Usually when I try to use teamwork I get blown up which is why i've given up on team work.

Didnt you just get in? Train AV. Tanks are ridiculous waste of isk now, paper thin, you can kill them with milita swarms LMAO.

All I can say towards this is the same for every other topic but i'm too lazy to respond to them all. Herpderp you've been using tanks as forward assault platforms? What are you insane. Use LAVs for that. Anyhow most of the tank balancing issue was the fact that you had enough low/high slots to set up a tank and your turret wasn't affected by how much tank you had. So meh lack of elements is all it is.

They need to split the main turret from the driver and require a separate operator, that way tanks will NEED teamwork just like everyone else. Oh, and that acceleration nerf. Then they can think about upping the strength of tanks again, but not until then. So long as tanks remain solo beasts, the should be glass cannons.

They need to split the main turret from the driver and require a separate operator, that way tanks will NEED teamwork just like everyone else. Oh, and that acceleration nerf. Then they can think about upping the strength of tanks again, but not until then. So long as tanks remain solo beasts, the should be glass cannons.

even if a tank sits at the back of the map to provide bombardment swarms can still hit them with 0 risk to the heavy. pop out lock hide behind rock and launch also doesnt help that if you pull behind a rock to hide from them they make a 90 degree turn and still hit. Tanks weren't that hard to kill, there damage maybe should have been nerfed but there tank is pretty easily broken if you have swarms with any skill whatsoever. i could see nerfing perhaps the gunnlogi and madrugar, theyre only 200k tanks and take less sp to train for. however i think the saragis and surya should have been left alone at 1.2 mill base tank mine runs 1.9 with fittings, 10 swarm suits dont cost that much and there is no escape from them........really balanced indeed. Personally i think this is prob the end of tanks, yay carebears cuz i wont put mine on field, doesnt matter how much support you have it wont live period.

u guys are ********
no game has seperated the tank from main turret thats the single dumbest suggestion ive heard ppl post
when fighters get put in u geniuses gonna QQ and say the fighter needs to be a 2 seater and have the guns seperated from the pilot...soo ********.

tanks arent solo beasts btw, ppl are just lazy to work together
even with the nerf now ppl QQing about tanks got hit bad idk i played BF with glass tanks and a good player will still dominate in a tank if the other team lacks the tools and teamwork to deal with them

EDIT: or when MTACs get added lets hav 1 guy operate the steering and 1 guy operate the guns right? sounds intelligent right?

u guys are ********
no game has seperated the tank from main turret thats the single dumbest suggestion ive heard ppl post
when fighters get put in u geniuses gonna QQ and say the fighter needs to be a 2 seater and have the guns seperated from the pilot...soo ********.

tanks arent solo beasts btw, ppl are just lazy to work together
even with the nerf now ppl QQing about tanks got hit bad idk i played BF with glass tanks and a good player will still dominate in a tank if the other team lacks the tools and teamwork to deal with them

EDIT: or when MTACs get added lets hav 1 guy operate the steering and 1 guy operate the guns right? sounds intelligent right?

Didnt you just get in? Train AV. Tanks are ridiculous waste of isk now, paper thin, you can kill them with milita swarms LMAO.

I think most of the nerfs to the tank are justified. A couple, will prob have to be reversed. They can be up for discussion, but separating the driver from a turret is pretty dumb. No discussion needed, it's pretty evident.

justified?


3mil + tank being killed in 3 shots by 20K weapon you call justified?

12 mil skillpoints infested into tanks to be 3 shotted by a guy with 1 milion SP invested into AV you call justified??

12mil skillpoints invested in dropsuits and get 1 shotted by someone in a 600k tank who killed 30 players just like you before that, justified?

Tank ***** tears are yummy keep it up.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Why does Dust have to be like other games? If game developers were always afraid to try something different then we would be stuck with Magnavox Odysseys.
Plus dropships have to rely gunners, as well as LAVs. And it makes sense, given their basic design and the real life equivalents (jeeps and transport helicoptors). And yes, I know it's just a game, there's no real life laser rifles, etc. Who cares?! You ask, 'why?', I and others ask, 'why not?'