Skill diversity.
EVE interaction.
Universe size.
Persistence.

There are the ones that catch my eye.

Skill diversity.
EVE interaction.
Universe size.
Persistence.

There are the ones that catch my eye.

This guy has got it. Unfortunately the shooting mechanics make the game fall flat on its face. It's ironic that the weakest element of DUST is what defines its genre.

FIX THE DAMN GUNS

It's a war simulator not a "real FPS"

This guy has got it. Unfortunately the shooting mechanics make the game fall flat on its face. It's ironic that the weakest element of DUST is what defines its genre.

FIX THE DAMN GUNS

The things that set dust 514 apart as a shooter?

The gun game play is complete **** compared to most other AAA fps on console. (That's not saying much either) The health is to high while the movement speed is to slow. Makes for boring slow game play. The equation is all messed up and the maps are to big. The only people that still think this game is good are the people wearing ccp fanboy sunglasses. You won't be able to see the truth through those shades.

I would say that sets it apart from other shooters.

It's a war simulator not a "real FPS"

It's a war simulator not a "real FPS"

You can't make a judgement about a game that isn't out yet. I don't like Precursor, I'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I was enjoying E3, but I'm not about to say Dust is bad. Saying Dust is bad now, would be like playing Starcraft: Brood War 8 years ago and saying "Man, Starcraft 2 really sucks!".

uhhhhhhhhhh........ hmmmmmmmmmm...... Cant think of a damn thing

The game is tentatively slated to go live 6-8 weeks from now..... how much better do you think it'll get?!?

It's a war simulator not a "real FPS"

"war simulator"!?! WTF!!

"war simulator"!?! WTF!!

Actually It could go live December 31st and still be a "2012 release". Personally, I think they're going to have a late release, and I don't really mind that. That aside, we are also a couple builds behind what they have in house.

Uhhh.... They've been advertising a Fall release! Although with the way the beta is going, maybe next spring would be best

Uhhh.... They've been advertising a Fall release! Although with the way the beta is going, maybe next spring would be best

Door is this way >>>>>>>>>>>>

...we are also a couple builds behind what they have in house.

Besides the same ol rehashed shooters and other calamities, how many games have you played that come out on time? Most get delayed at some point unless the game is just the same rehashed crap we get every year. I for one thing it is coming out next year and will blow other games out of the water.

I don't get it. Why even come on the forum? People say to give input but it's not input. Your setting up a question for an answer you want. If you don't like something, leave or don't buy it. Since it's free there really is only one option.

Of course Dust isn't going to have as nice gunplay as the other AAA shooters out there, not at this stage anyway.

There's all the other stuff that this game does/is going to do. Like the variation and complexity of all the suits/modules/weapons/vehicles etc, the integration into EVE and the MMO aspect, the potential RTS element (when commanders can direct the action from above, and choose which installations to place), the market stuff, and other things I've probably forgotten.

The thing with all the other "lesser" shooters (IMO lesser because of the lack of ambition, innovation) is that the gunplay is the main feature, all the other elements have been done many times, so the shooting mechanics are what sets them apart from their prequels/rivals.

Dust just has so much more going for it.

Even though some of us see the potential fail dust 514 is becoming, that doesn't mean we don't want this game to do well. So STFU with your GTFO BS. I will leave when this game goes up in flames and then I'm going to laugh about it. I want a good mmofps on console so I hope this doesn't happen.


pay to talk.
grind to win.
kitten fps gameplay.

dust is going in the wrong direction fast.

What does that even mean thats like saying. "Well I like the game because it pretty cool, but I hate because it sucks." You cant have your cake and eat it too. You trying to be those who are like told you it would do well when it wins but then if it fails you are the on who goes told you so. Can't be both so pick a side and get off the dam fence.

The things that set dust 514 apart as a shooter?

The gun game play is complete **** compared to most other AAA fps on console. (That's not saying much either) The health is to high while the movement speed is to slow. Makes for boring slow game play. The equation is all messed up and the maps are to big. The only people that still think this game is good are the people wearing ccp fanboy sunglasses. You won't be able to see the truth through those shades.

I would say that sets it apart from other shooters.

So for you they are letting us test something they already changed?
Really for what purpose: if what we test is already old/changed then we are all wasting time
No my friend you lie to yourself on this: in a beta you don't test a build 2-3 months old, you test the latest build.

If like many of you suggest/hope CCP has a better build, a completely superior one with perfect gameplay, and they are not letting us test it then all this beta is a farce aned we are all wasting time....we palyers and CCP alike.

No people CCP doesn't have Dust 515 hidden in a closet and they are waiting to show it to say "surprise, we din't need your testing, we did it all alone and better".

You judge Dust on your "future hopes" and blindly deny the reality of things: Dust 514 is here and now, judge form what you paly it here an now.

Ummmmmmm, this is a beta and we are testing. That's why we are here, to test and help make the game better. Did that really go that far over your head? Did you really just miss the point that hard?


I want a good mmofps on console. I am not a ccp fanboy so I could care less if it does fail. There will be other mmofps titles to play in the future. Its not the end of the world. The funniest part of it all is that even though the game play and shooting mechanics are crap. the ccp fanboys post endless love threads about how great dust is.

They are having trouble seeing all the fail through their ccp fanboy sunglasses. It shades their eyes from the truth.

Why do people hate this game so much? If you don't like it, then why are you here? Leave your feedback and go somewhere else.
Personally I love the game besides all of the server issues and such. Hit detection is nearly perfect for me (besides the occasional invincible scout) and the maps are great. Besides, it's not even finished yet. We're still one or two builds from release people.

ITT; CoD fanboi wants spaceCoD, gets something different, and tries to bash a beta test build for being bad.

At least good games put out beta's, instead of "buy our game is awesome cause its COD" then the fanboy's buy it and hop into MP and get well there's on a few good guns the rest are place holders and here have these KS to make you feel better for buying our **** product that should of been beta tested but that would drive sales away

Joining a game to get a server full

then you join another game and your fittings are all INVALID.
and your PS3 decides it should crash and burn when dust does.

thats setting dust apart from all other FPS for me right now. broken things do not mend themselves.

It is called a Beta. Do you know what that means? That means the game isn't finished yet.

It is called a Beta. Do you know what that means? That means the game isn't finished yet.

I don't think its people hating on the game, more or less people came here expecting something different from the average CoD BF3 KZ3 clone. When in fact we got something much worse. We are getting all the things that go into a great mmofps. A market, a decent skill system, corp battles, yet we are missing the most important part. Good fps mechanics and a balanced move speed to health ratio. I think disappoint is the word you are looking for.

Persistence, scale, corporations, sov wars. It's not just a quick match, win/lose, repeat.

How did we get something that was 'much worse'? I can't play any other FPS anymore because I have so much fun playing DUST that all the other ones bore me. I still don't see why people think the hit detection is so bad, it ain't perfect but it isn't horrible. Do they not know how to aim? IMO this game has much better gunplay than that disgrace to the Battlefield franchise BF3. All CCP needs to do is iron it out a little bit and I think it will be perfect.

Take ccps kitten out of your mouth. The game play is pretty garbage atm. I would rather get drunk and play paper boy on an NES then reboot my PS3 50 times to play 15 matches in dust. Shooting mechanics are still crappy.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa, calm down bro. I'm just stating my opinion. I have only had to reboot my PS3 one or two times, one of which was a hard freeze. I've had to reboot the game client ALOT but I don't really mind. If you can't enjoy it then I feel bad for you because testing/playing this beta has been an extremely fun time for me.

It's a war simulator not a "real FPS"

Skill diversity.
EVE interaction.
Universe size.
Persistence.

There are the ones that catch my eye.

Dust is not the first FPS to have skill diversity. So all that's left is EVE interaction, and Universe size. Also this isn't the first shooter to offer persistence many a shooter has come before this and offered persistence.

uhhhhhhhhhh........ hmmmmmmmmmm...... Cant think of a damn thing

No they really haven't. Dust planets will have persistent structures. Corps and players will have persistent assets and ties. Name me one other fps that has persistence beyond stats

This guy has got it. Unfortunately the shooting mechanics make the game fall flat on its face. It's ironic that the weakest element of DUST is what defines its genre.

FIX THE DAMN GUNS

pay to talk.

Persistence, scale, corporations, sov wars. It's not just a quick match, win/lose, repeat.

Yeah, I'm curious about shooters with persistence too, Regis. I'm thinking looking at those other persistent shooters might give me a better idea of what I'm looking for(and not looking for) in Dust.

MMORTFPSRPG (Massively Multiplayer Online, Real-Time First Person Shooter, Role Playing Game)

Hey Regis

I'm still really interested in learning about those other persistent shooters in the fps genre that you're talking about. I don't game much and it would be very helpful to have some other persistent titles to compare DUST 514 to.