What exactly is wrong with the market?

And what does that mean exactly?

Dude you saying us console guys can't handle "complex" games?

I'm saying the majority just want to have fun, and not think so hard about a video game's depth implications

I'm saying the majority just want to have fun, and not think so hard about a video game's depth implications

disagree op.. **** regulars already... i'm sick of them thinking they can corral and dumb down the developement of every game just because they're regular.. CCP doesn't need these ppl, they make enough money as it is off EVE that we don't have to make another play pen for regulars. they can become unregular or play a regular game IMO...

tldr: regulars can gtfo

Who said we want this to be dumb down , I'm tired of you console pieces of crap thinking your all high and mighty and thinking we are below you

lol @ console po'crap.. what the fk are you playing on a pc.... idiot

Again....it's not complicated, what we're playing in the beta right now is the most shallow part of the game. Are you having fun? I am, and honestly it's stupidly simple.

Dust is not complicated, sure there are a lot of systems to know, but they're easy to understand.

Lmao I typed that fast " pc lives of crap""

You're going to be in the minority. The majority of console gamers wont care to sift through the economy and all that it entails in order to fit their character. Not in the 'instant gratification' console era

Correct me if I'm wrong, but CCP won't want a large number of people who 'just want to have fun', by which I'm assuming you mean they'll download the game at launch and play it till the next Call of Duty.

The audience this game is targeted it is not by definition the majority of the FPS community (who are already catered for with with CoD et al) but is more likely to be the people who will play for years, contribute to the experience and, at least sometimes, will buy items from the he market place... with real money. Without those people, there would be no free game.

You're going to be in the minority. The majority of console gamers wont care to sift through the economy and all that it entails in order to fit their character. Not in the 'instant gratification' console era

I just love how people seem to think console players are bunch of idiots screaming on CoD. Most people don't realize this but...a console......is actually a computer too. Shocking I know! Sp apparently console gamers are really not total idiots compared to PC gamers! GASP!

Just because you spend more money on your machine, doesn't mean that everyone else has the attention span and IQ of a rock.

if ccp "doesn't want a large number" then why bring DUST 514 to a console to begin with? Afterall, consoles are where the BIG money is, and can potentially be for ccp

My mistake. Should have defined what I meant by 'large number' better.

By large number I meant in terms of the multi-millions of people playing the big boxed FPS games on the consoles. CCP surely aren't going to want to appease people who want instant gratification at the cost of losing those who want to build their skill-sets and buy things from the market.

My mistake. Should have defined what I meant by 'large number' better.

By large number I meant in terms of the multi-millions of people playing the big boxed FPS games on the consoles. CCP surely aren't going to want to appease people who want instant gratification at the cost of losing those who want to build their skill-sets and buy things from the market.

Console gamers are far from idiots! Its just they dont care to get all wrapped up in economic intricacies of a video game, like dust 514 will present, Like hardcore EvE online players do usually. Console players are more about unbridled thrill n FUN factor! Which is awesome actually

This is the point i was trying to make! 'Instant gratification' is all the big bulk of the console community want! Its a relatively casual audience! Ergo, dust 514 will not do well on console. It NEEDS to be on pc n pc only

And if you think that the market is a bunch of "economic intricacies" then you clearly have a very simple mind. The market system is very simple and streamlined. Just because you can choose from more than 10 guns doesn't mean its complicated, it just means you have options.

Also this economic system is NOTHING like EVE's complexities. Even dabbling in the most basic of trading in EVE, it makes Dust look like a picture book compared to the NYSE.

lol no joke right... even try to fit your first noob frig with a civilian mining laser takes like an hour in EVE

im exagerating a little but yea

This is the point i was trying to make! 'Instant gratification' is all the big bulk of the console community want! Its a relatively casual audience! Ergo, dust 514 will not do well on console. It NEEDS to be on pc n pc only

Well it takes about 2 months of playing EVE to really get a good grasp on the game. It takes about 2 hours to get a good grasp on Dust. They dont even compare.

This is the point i was trying to make! 'Instant gratification' is all the big bulk of the console community want! Its a relatively casual audience! Ergo, dust 514 will not do well on console. It NEEDS to be on pc n pc only

This is the point i was trying to make! 'Instant gratification' is all the big bulk of the console community want! Its a relatively casual audience! Ergo, dust 514 will not do well on console. It NEEDS to be on pc n pc only

It means console fps'ers want to fit their loadouts by chronologically "unlocking" gear as soon as they possibly can so they can get out on the battlefield as quickly as they possibly can. The lethargic, methodical, rpg-ish pace, along with sharing an economy with ppl they dont care about;, along with those ppls resources and planets, isn't going to fly with the majority of console fps'ers. Along with the fact that they'll be better shooters out there= the game's woeful demise on console.

It means console fps'ers want to fit their loadouts by chronologically "unlocking" gear as soon as they possibly can so they can get out on the battlefield as quickly as they possibly can. The lethargic, methodical, rpg-ish pace, along with sharing an economy with ppl they dont care about;, along with those ppls resources and planets, isn't going to fly with the majority of console fps'ers. Along with the fact that they'll be better shooters out there= the game's woeful demise on console.

disagree op.. **** regulars already... i'm sick of them thinking they can corral and dumb down the developement of every game just because they're regular.. CCP doesn't need these ppl, they make enough money as it is off EVE that we don't have to make another play pen for regulars. they can become unregular or play a regular game IMO...

tldr: regulars can gtfo