k. i support you if u support me

cry some more kids, now that your exploited toys have been taken away your kills are no longer there.
*sheds a tear* for your loss

"WE WERE PROMISED TRUE KEYBOARD AND MOUSE!!!! THIS IS NOT TRUE KEYBOARD AND MOUSE!!!! IT TAKES TOO LONG TO ROTATE MY PLAYER!!!!!1!!"

speaking of exploited toys...

I agree I used a duvolle last patch because IDK maybe I didnt have the creo as much bonus damage as some so it wasnt doing me good but the nerf seemed a little extreme on how many numbers they removed from the damage is too much, which will just make people flock to a new flavor of the month gun instead of people using various weapons.

The new flavor of the month will be tanks with large missile turrets. The explosions knock forge gun aim off so much as to make even running heavy at all any more completely useless, IMO.

The one true loadout is emerging as a Shield tanked Assault w/ Swarms, SMG, AV/Flux grenades, nanohive.

The new flavor of the month will be tanks with large missile turrets. All missile turrets still have infinite range while the forge gun has had a hard limit imposed that not even the sharp shooter skill can add to. The explosions knock forge gun aim off so much as to make even running heavy at all any more completely useless, IMO.

The one true loadout is emerging as a shield tanked Assault w/ Swarms, SMG, AV/Flux grenades, nanohive.

Simply saying that there is one true fitting shows you are in a completely wrong mindset. I have found AV roles to be significantly better this build.

Used to ONLY run with a Creodron. But since they made me put my woobie down, I picked up the Duvolle and it's not to shabby.

If they keep the Creodron nerfed, then they need to bring the price down.

I won't be running heavy at all this build. Too much of an SP investment for too little return. Heavy weapon upgrades are 50% higher cost to train over Light Weapons. Might as well focus on swarms and maybe mass drivers instead.

I'll be focusing on Assault, Light weapons, and Sidearms.

lets do this

I will NEVER support "UnNerfing Vehicles" in a FPS game

silly goose. I shoot people in my tank in first person all the time.

Duvolle Tactical... I dare you to try it out. Its an amazing gun, with a max DPS of 500. However, that's if you're PERFECT. Most people get around 300, I get about 400 (if I score all my shots).

The thing still puts out a stream of accurate sustained hip-fire. It may not be able to drop three proto's in one clip anymore but it still has a place, especially against scouts where spray and pray becomes necessary.

fair enough if that is how you feel. already edited my post above so im not gonna retype...

You drive in third person though

You guys can have your stuff back if I can have my SMG's back to the way they were!

Just to hammer my point home, that's not a God fit - It's THE only viable AV fit. Try aiming a forge gun while missiles are hitting your position and you'll see what I mean.

You guys can have your stuff back if I can have my SMG's back to the way they were!

Weren't they buffed this build?

i know exactly what you mean. i really only roll in a forge heavy if im not driving.

if you put yourself in a position as a forge gunner where the tank can hammer you with missiles like that its usually your fault. again, this is from my own experience. As much as you complain about the flinch being unfair for heavies, who are you to say a tank should have to deal with a dropsuit tanking multiple missiles and still getting off an accurate 4k damage forge round?

Dont stare at the tank in the face while you shoot it. I have found a plethora of ways to get shots off with my forge while maintaining the 6 second charge while not getting hit in the face.

It IS a sidearm and people shouldn't be running around like it is an AR.

So you want the two things you like the most unnerfed? I would support having the two things I like most buffed as well, who wouldn't?

Man there has been some great tears to harvest around hear lately.

Breach is good as is maybe a little bit of tweaking but no buff. Protoman I watched you mow down 3 dudes in a row with the creodron why are you asking for a buff?

Breach is good as is maybe a little bit of tweaking but no buff. Protoman I watched you mow down 3 dudes in a row with the creodron why are you asking for a buff?

Because the gun sucks and was over nerfed to the point where it's just laughable. At the very least they need to increase it's clip size back to 42 and increase the effective range.