Don't know what you're smoking but ADS means aim down sights! Why would there be more recoil when ADS compared to hip fire?
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Beta is six months old and hit detection was supposed to be fixed twice already. Also if you enjoy this cluster **** of a beta more tan BF3 retail you are bullshitting yourself. Also I'm sure no one here wants it to play like COD!

Hmm... I know that in previous builds CCP acknowledged hit detection as an issue. It seems vastly improved for the current build we have. But I think it is a "comedy of errors," so to speak.-á
They talk about fixing the excessive auto aim, which I believe pulls the shots to where the target used to be. Which is why u have to lead alot sometimes. Also, in dealing with the scout, they reduced the amount that thy will jump around. I believe that this effected the mechanic of how they registered hits b/c the auto aim would pull ur shots to where it was. It was like it was always behind.-á
Also, they discussed optimal range was adjusted for most weapons. I know this has been an issue too. For example, the AR is a medium range weapon, not short or long. It was spec'd like this. So when u were really close to a target and u would shot, it would do less damage, but u would see the hits register(especially against their shields). For example, I would sneak up behind the hills to take the scouts out. I could even stand around and read my mail sometimes. I would aim right at their heads and have to unload at least 10-15 rnds. All would register visually, just not stat wise. On the other hand, a scout zig-zagging toward me, I could lead and now down in 5-8 shots. Now, in real life, u take an AR, let it be a 552 or M4 variant, and aim it at a stationary target at 3ft and one at 30ft. They both go down in the same fashion.-á
There r some other issues too dealing with rendered models and such. But the optimal range and auto aim could be culprits for some. I'm not complaining, if u've played with me, u know I get my kills. Just thinking through the issues though.-á

Because having your face on your gun doesn't decrease the amount of kick a gun has. I am assuming that hipfire isn't actually at the hip but rather positioned just like it would be when you're ADS but your head is up. Movement should effect recoil. Not whether your head is closer to your gun. Obviously if you are ADS you wont be moving

Do you know what it would take to improve hit detection? You don't just tell the computer to fix it and its done. It'll take time and it'll get done.

Just a comment on the PS2 talk. Been watching the live streams and reading chatter about the play so far. They seem to be having similar issues with hit detection and fps mechanics as well. And they do have quit a few crashes.

But back to DUST. Its quite possible the servers are part of hit detection. Can't wait to see how scouts will be affected. Maybe we can actually drop some of those speed freaks. Plus, if they tried to put every single fix, update, add on, etc., in the notes, who know how long that read would be. I'm sure they put the most important, and most called for changes in there.

I am a bit confused on when we will see the update. Maybe I just missed the clarification. I have heard we will see it the 21st. But notes say next week. When will we actually be able to play the new build?

I love the fact that I specced heavily into infantry assault and my loudouts are useless because of the stupidly effective tanks. I should just re-spec into tanks and I will be #1 Dust player.