is the op saying a corp that has dedicated tank drivers, dropship pilots, logistics and good old grunts that know what they are doing will fail? if so

There's a bit of a connection snake. I died 17 time one game in Proto gear. 1.5mil burnt in 20 minutes. Love RE :) But yeah, you'd get through your saving if you didn't keep doing well m8.

Crutches-Some people sit in vehicles because they suck at the fps part of this game. So they hide in tanks and dropships and never cap an objective. They are the people who are to scared to get out and cap a clone reserve unit if given the opportunity. These people are just as bad as the people that run and gun and never cap an objective.

To clarify I know not all vehicular manslaughter players are guilty of this. No need to spam this thread about how you are not this person. Let your in game actions do the talking.

Wheelchairs-Sorry guys, I'm a dedicated logi player so I suck at killing and I just went 2-30. This is not a legit excuse. Just because you are in a wheelchair doesn't mean you have to suck it up. If you already suck at basketball then being in a wheelchair isn't going to change much.



Whats your point crimson?

If a corp has to many people that need crutches and wheelchairs their W/L ratio will take a hit. Once a W/L ratio and corp battles are added to the leader boards, then you will see what I mean.

I know there are variables as far as teamwork and tactics go. That still does not excuse having these people in your corp. From a business stand point of course.

Nonsense Ironblood. You can have a Sagaris or 10. If you haven't played about in them, you have to try em. Mine aren't perfect, but they're ok for free ;)
I am fascinated by the number of people who want a command suit. Remember the phrase "too many chefs spoil the broth" and you'll be fine. Basically, unles it's just blatantly OP, I'd not be going for Proto. Tech2 for sure, maybe advanced. But that's just me. ASSAULT FTW :D
I too am looking forward to the fixes.

To the original post your analogy is pretty bad.

Someone who sucks is going to suck if there in a vehicle or not.
I could say a proto fit assault guy is using that as his crutch and the advanced fit guy could be claiming he is not in proto so thats his wheelchair.

picking out tanks and logistics as your soul target is kind of sad. and now

now you will have tank drivers that can just pull off a okay k/d when they are not in the vehicle but once in there a new man and able to just lay waste to everything where you will have the opposite someone with a great gun game can suck in a tank because it requires different stratigic abilities.

To the original post your analogy is pretty bad.

Someone who sucks is going to suck if there in a vehicle or not.
I could say a proto fit assault guy is using that as his crutch and the advanced fit guy could be claiming he is not in proto so thats his wheelchair.

picking out tanks and logistics as your soul target is kind of sad. and now

now you will have tank drivers that can just pull off a okay k/d when they are not in the vehicle but once in there a new man and able to just lay waste to everything where you will have the opposite someone with a great gun game can suck in a tank because it requires different stratigic abilities.

Yes i play with logistics the most and pull off a 3.5 k/d while using the tech 2 variant. i am guessing in full proto my k/d will only increase.

Ragequit after I kill you 4x more please.

I got ran over yesterday by tony and imagine what happened next.....

Q drumroll....


He got out, hacked and took the objective.

Shocking, I know right. Someone who knows how to play this game without a vehicle.

Some of you people are just as bad as the people that start spawn camping while the letter is still red. Yeah, don't even try to cap the objective you tryhard scrub.

[quote=Degren Cthulhu]is the op saying a corp that has dedicated tank drivers, dropship pilots, logistics and good old grunts that know what they are doing will fail? if so

so am i right in thinking that you think everybody should be atleast a grunt first then be a tanker or a pilot second? in the way the US marines do it, for example that AV8 pilot is a marine first, pilot second if so you could hav said that instead of calling people ********

What the hell are you talking about? I don't use vehicles. In fact I don't have a single SP in any vehicles, sans the Vehicle operation level you get by default. I play ambush maps almost exclusively just to avoid the hassle of vehicles. The only scrub here is the guy who runs around in a a scout suit and thinks he's good enough to make a thread about his Dust philosophy.

Being good has nothing to do with dust philosophy. You sound mad. Is it because I killed you all those times. Its nothing personal.

I never said you use vehicles. I was just loling how you rage quit against me after getting wrecked over and over again. The people that talk all big on here are always the ones to leave the game after they get killed by me a few times.

I hate the scout and I wish I had skilled into assault. You can't just stand and fight people. Its a lot of running away which I hate. It doesn't suit my play style at all and I pretty much wastes millions of SP.

Trying to devalue someones post by stating what they test in a broken beta is fail. Its a beta. If you have nothing to add this thread, then please leave.

More logic, less butthurt people.

I've also wrecked you dozens of times as well. Ragequit? I got 4 more kills after you killed me and left afterwards after the dropships and vehicles showed up. But if it makes you feel better to think i left because of you, then be my guest.

Sorry, but I can't help but laugh at the BS here. You hate the scout suit yet you continued to sink millions of SP into and continue use it? You make a thread talking about vehicle crutches and logi wheelchairs while you yourself use equipment that is known to need tweaking. I'm certainly not the best player but my KD is decent. You making a thread talking about whose playstyle is more useful to the team is like me or Gaga making a thread about how balanced RE is.

Not if your rich like me

yup.

I had 20 million isk and growing with nothing to spend it on.

Pffft.

Poor people...

So you seriously don't see the irony of your own thread? I honestly didn't expect to hurt your feelings though. This thread is about as useful as one telling us Dust 514 starts with a "D". I mean, do you honestly think there's going to be an all-tank corp and they're just going to tell dedicated infantry to go pound sand?

Dust Player: "Hey bro, I'm specced in Full proto Assault, Heavy and can use all light weapons. Can I join your corp?"

Elitist Tank Pilot: "Pfffffftttt Sagaris or get the f**k out b*tch."

Who honestly believes there are going to be successful Dropship or tank-only corps?


You probably don't play Eve so I can't really fault you for not understanding how corps and alliances work. Very few, if any, successful corps specialize in only one class or role. The exception to this might be low sec pirate corps who fly mainly frigates or an industry-heavy mining corp. But even then, they know when to whip out a HIC, Tech 3 or Tier 3 BC every now and then when the situation calls for it. Bad corps get eaten by better corps. The most successful corps are going to be the ones who can field a wide variety of players. The ones who are too afraid to hop out of a tank for 10 seconds to cap an objective are less likely to last in a corp anyway, regardless of how well they can pilot said tank.



As far as RE goes, oh yeah I drop those on heavies or groups of 3 like they're candy. It's so much easier to just OHK rather than waste a clip in their head or two breach SG rounds. And thank God they're nerfing them because I was getting lazy. The difference is, I know they're OP, I don't actually try and defend them. Plus it only took like 50k sp to unlock them, not millions of SP like your Scout suit did. Cheap yes, and that's why I don't have any delusions of grandeur after popping them.

Seriously, you didn't see the irony in your post? Calling out someone in a scout suit. Yet you abuse RE? All that is quite off topic and you are just grasping at straws and crying about how I killed you with a scout suit. Trying to devalue someones posts because of what they use in a broken beta is a joke. Especially when that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Its quite pathetic.

Ragequit more. Your tears are tasty.


If a corp has to many people that need crutches they will suck it up. fact. Considering good infantry is hard to find I actually predict a lot of scrub corps that try and use vehicles as a primary tactics.

At that point they are missing the scissors for the rock paper scissors equation.

I don't need REs to get kills. If I only used RE I'd use a...wait for it...Scout suit :) SMGs and SGs are way more fun.

I don't think I've ever seen you in anything but a Scout suit so I can't say how good you may or may not be without bad hit detection as a crutch. I'm sure you're a great player, after all, no suit or bad mechanics can save a bad player. And you did bust me with that damn creo. But I don't ragequit matches where I get killed. I do leave them if it looks like my group is losing horribly and I end up getting focused because of it or you can't even spawn without a dropship spamming missiles before you even fully load in.

I don't devalue your thread because you're in a scout suit, I just pointed that out for irony and laughs. I devalue it because it hasn't brought anything new to the table that hasn't already been discussed many, many times. How many circle v killer threads are we going to make each week? On the face of it, it doesn't even make any sense. If people are terrible at doing objectives and getting kills then how many matches are they going to win? A few? Any? So tell me, why do loser corps warrant a thread debating the merits of their battle philosophy? This is just blatant, poorly veiled, epeen stroking.