Then whats the point of spending money and time grinding up to a sagaris if you can automatically kill it off the bat?

Then whats the point of spending money and time grinding up to a sagaris if you can automatically kill it off the bat?

I didnt say they should be able to do it easily

The point to earning a sagaris is to have a better tank, just because a new player can kill one if they are skilled dosnt mean the sagaris is bad it just means people drving them need to be better drivers

Tell me, if a new player can kill one how does a tank do it's job of tanking damage?

How bout this. I'll let you drive my Surya and I bet you will not last in a fight long enough to do any significant damage. Now if I use it, I'll go 27/0 because I know how to use it.

It would also wreck the AV heavy. Everyone would just go assault and when a tank showed up would pull out this fit.

No your just seeing only one side of this equation, why don't you talk to some standard tankers about how they feel about Proto-Forger Gunners. One proto Forge Gunner can rid the field of all vehicles unless there's at least a single Proto HAV on the field. Problem is HAV's are designed to be the highest endurance object in the field of battle, nothing short of AV should be effecting them once they've reached proto level... When webifiers, mines, and ECM are brought into the field of battle you will be able to wreck them with standard AV equipment as well, right now the only reason they seem invulnerable is because not all the counters to them are in place, and even then they are currently still countered by their equal level counter, which is FAR cheaper to field then they are.

Yea I do think he is trolling. Can't even answer my question.

a new player can kill one

And yet you said this.

I didnt say they should be able to do it easily

Well then thats the case right now with swarms and REs just use those and a little team work then your good to go.

What? That makes no sense.

The basic gear hardly damages a proto tank

Milita swarmers are useless and RE by themselves hardly do damage

Yet you implied it on your post. Somehow my trolldar went off. In Eve/Dust, there is no such thing as the easy button. Train up to a matching tank or strategize better with your squad to take it out with infantry. CCP will not hold your hand.

Well in all due respect this thread being seriour or not -- there are plenty of "anti" vehicle weaponry within this game already.

• AV Grenades
• Swarm Launcher
• Forge Gun

I'm not particulary sure if RE's (Remote Explosives) can damage vehicles or not, but I do know that CCP has stated and confirmed in the upcoming build that the anti-vehicle grenades are going to and suppose to seek out (within a limited radius) the an enemy vehicle and attach themselves to said vehicle. Granted that vehicles are going to be a huge factor to games, but at the same time there is almost little reason to not have some ability in which to deal with these vehicles. Especially when grouping is available and/or functioning you should certainly find atleast two players who will arm themselves with atleast some form anti vehicle support.

My squad is usely a bunch of randoms I have no control over. When grouping is finally in enabled you can bet Ill find someone who is good at playing anti-vechicle. But this stil dosnt fix the problem of op tanks for everyone else you tank drivers will still be able to run over randoms without dying

The point to earning a sagaris is to have a better tank, just because a new player can kill one if they are skilled dosnt mean the sagaris is bad it just means people drving them need to be better drivers

Every player should be able to access anti-vehicle weapons powerful enough to damage a Sagaris right of the bat . As it stands one person in a sagaris can play whole match without dying simply because no one on the other team has any sp invested in anti vechicle weapons .

Well Ive never heard any of those AV grenade changes, but who know thats might fix the problem

Then you need to search and read more, and post less.

Welcome to Dust. Now please stop posting these things until you understand what Dust is about. Cheers.

enough militia swarm launchers will kill a marauder. you just can't do it ALONE. which seems fair enough really.

i can ALMOST take one alone with my prototype swarm, or at the very least make them run away. so a concerted effort by even just 3 players with militia swarms should pull it off. if anything you're BETTER off because you can fan out.

the problem is most people just don't bother.

Every player should be able to access anti-vehicle weapons powerful enough to damage a Sagaris right of the bat . As it stands one person in a sagaris can play whole match without dying simply because no one on the other team has any sp invested in anti vechicle weapons .

Every player should be able to access anti-vehicle weapons powerful enough to damage a Sagaris right of the bat . As it stands one person in a sagaris can play whole match without dying simply because no one on the other team has any sp invested in anti vechicle weapons .