If the game wasn't rated on KDR, then Pidgey would feel less important.

Obviously.

It really should be displaying "Isk destroyed vs Isk lost"...

KDR is meaningless, it's the ISK ratio that matters.

Where's Phantom da gawd?

secondly you took videos from two "tryhard" "remake" clans that came after all the good players stopped playing.

Every clan battle 3C played in or LoL played people definitely got grims. (they also all ended in major victories at that)

Primary Vehicle Players have higher KDRs, then infantry. Everyone in a match cannot be a vehicle. So does that make vehicles due to their KDRs more usefull then any infantry?

The vehicle user with 10.7 KDR to 25.43 KDR better then the user with 3 KDR who has not equiped or deployed a vehicle?

Is a swarm/fogre gun user that prevent vehicles useless because he had more deaths then kills, then the infantry with rifle or the tank with cannons, or the dropship with missile gunners?

Whilst tracking numbers of players killed and lives lost is usefull for forum posturing and self-congratulation, it has little bearing on 0.0 warfare where what matters more is the ability to take and control SOV territory, harass hostile industrial and economic operations, and to break the morale of enemy mercs.

Its not about dying for your country, its all about making them die for theirs. So I dont prescibe to KDR logic other then if you are dead, you are not taking ground, if your dead every spawn, then you did nothing, and stroked some elites eppeen for killing you 45 times in a row.

All MAG vets remember the ``no body got a reaper, no body`` remark in clan wars.

Here is a very old clan battle video of Murder Service vs GUN(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNrFScqQ5sw) two respected clans, its revealing their reaction at the end of the match. It shows just how inflated KDRs are from randoms.


What does KDR mean to you? What does it take to win?

If the game wasn't rated on KDR, then Pidgey would feel less important.

Obviously.

KDR is less relevant in this game then any other shooter in the world from a skill perspective, as you can be a good player but have such an under level character causing you to die a lot, mix that with terrible hit detection and frame rate lag it's quite irrelevant. Now kdr does have a huge impact financially on you though, which is the exact reason why vehicles need to be nerfed, they are the main cause of death against infantry players. The solution should be to make it where if you lose a tank, it takes 4+ games to earn the money back to buy another one.

Players who play with a high kdr around 10 or so, arent playing aggressively which is fine, but when you "have" to win, in a corp match and what not, those players will be so use to playing not to die that they wont be able to keep up with there pub room kdrs, if you cant duplicate it in a clan match it's not your true kdr imho

Here is battle JumpMan, ~^~ vs. 3C , you participated where zero grims were won by no one in the match, by either elite clans in that moment in that match you liar!!!!

[3C] Ecky18 was the highest killer with 32 kills 16 deaths, followed by MUDMASTEI2_23 32 kills 21 deaths, should I continue

pdiggy go away, you lost your right to cokmplain about vehicles...ive got you in quotes saying how you refuse to spawn AV and ***** cause you still die to tanks

It really should be displaying "Isk destroyed vs Isk lost"...

KDR is meaningless, it's the ISK ratio that matters.

Still doesn't change the fact that they were major victories. Everybody knows TDF gave up halfway through both matches. They couldn't match 3C Kill for Kill. The example of TDF is what happens when you let a bunch of "good guys" not the best players but nonetheless "good guys" into a clan, and proceed to play against The best players in a game. It becomes a stone wall.

Look up LoL vs T-C interdiction and then tell me KDR doesn't matter.

Primary Vehicle Players have higher KDRs, then infantry. Everyone in a match cannot be a vehicle. So does that make vehicles due to their KDRs more usefull then any infantry?

The vehicle user with 10.7 KDR to 25.43 KDR better then the user with 3 KDR who has not equiped or deployed a vehicle?

Is a swarm/fogre gun user that prevent vehicles useless because he had more deaths then kills, then the infantry with rifle or the tank with cannons, or the dropship with missile gunners?

Whilst tracking numbers of players killed and lives lost is usefull for forum posturing and self-congratulation, it has little bearing on 0.0 warfare where what matters more is the ability to take and control SOV territory, harass hostile industrial and economic operations, and to break the morale of enemy mercs.

Its not about dying for your country, its all about making them die for theirs. So I dont prescibe to KDR logic other then if you are dead, you are not taking ground, if your dead every spawn, then you did nothing, and stroked some elites eppeen for killing you 45 times in a row.

All MAG vets remember the ``no body got a reaper, no body`` remark in clan wars.

Here is a very old clan battle video of Murder Service vs GUN(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNrFScqQ5sw) two respected clans, its revealing their reaction at the end of the match. It shows just how inflated KDRs are from randoms.


What does KDR mean to you? What does it take to win?

please inform me what a militia AV loadout is going to do to proto tanks?

pdiggy go away, you lost your right to cokmplain about vehicles...ive got you in quotes saying how you refuse to spawn AV and ***** cause you still die to tanks

Probably the same that a militia tank will do against a protosuit. Die a horrible death.

miltia tanks can two shot protosuits buddy.

garbage tanks do exist but so do garbage dropsuits, and garbage weapons, my proto AR is garbage agaisnt anything higher then militia, ammo wise.