I'd be more receptive to using the DS3 if we were able to reduce what feels like an huge 'deadzone' on the analog sticks (Aren't there options in other ps3 games to change this ?).

In saying that, what happens if the 'move' peripheral suddenly becomes more accurate at aiming than using the DS3 controller wont there still be raging on the forums as per KB/Mouse ?

Here we go again, it is time for another "STABBER MCSHANK PRO-TIP"



THERE ARE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD USERS IN EVERY PS3 FPS RIGHT NOW!!! There, I said it. They are already in EVERY SINGLE FPS on the PS3.

It doesn't matter whether they are using GIMX, Eagle Eye, or Splitfish. They are already in YOUR games and aren't going anywhere.



All CCP is going to do by allowing Mouse and Keyboard natively is even the playing field so that anyone with a cheap $10 setup have the choice to play the same way those with the cash to burn (Eagle Eye or Splitfish) and highly technical (GIMX) are already playing.

These threads serve exactly ZERO purpose. The sooner the ignorant among us learn this, the better.

why can't CCP just recommend those devices and put more attention into adding a party system and fixing the hit detection issues.

They're emulators, so they don't offer the same performance level of just allowing regular mice and keyboards. Also, that post you quoted hit the nail on the head in another way: those devices are hilariously overpriced.
In any case, if they were to just recommend such devices and be done with it, there'd be even more QQ from the KB/M supporters than there has been from the DS3 users so far. I kind of feel sorry for CCP, because there's no bloodless way out of this issue.

Just buy a ******* keyboard and a mouse. The rest of us don't want to be handicapped by ****** controls.

its not the ds3 thats giving you bad controls, its the developer.

Let's see how long this EVE II will last with all the PC players input

A gaming mouse capable of doing 2000 DPI or more, 5600 recommended. $20-70.

Bluetooth:
Another computer capable of running Ubuntu, such as a laptop. (You might already have one, but then again you might not)
A compatible bluetooth adapter that can have it's Bluetooth Address changed. ($5-$20)
Appropriate skill to get Ubuntu running, working, and configured properly.
Enough knowledge so that you don't wipe out your hard drive when installing it. (Important if you want to keep Windows around.)

USB:
Any computer with USB ports. (XP and 7 recommended.)
Materials for USB board. ($10-$20)
Tools to build USB board.
Appropriate skill to get firmware ONTO USB board.
Skills at maniacal laughter as you realize that you can reprogram the breadboard to use it on a 360. (5 skill levels mandatory)

GIMX can require both technical skill and lots of money.

You will need:



Granted that GIMX is the best way to use your KB/M on a console at the moment, it's very daunting to people who aren't that skilled in computer use.... not to mention that the price point, especially for that mouse, can drive people away. Of course, if they REALLY want to use it, the many PC players getting into this game that can do it, will do it. The only people that lose are the people without the skills and/or money to set it up for themselves.

Also, if CCP gimps KB/M for the sake of DS3ers, serious KB/Mers will go this route. If they buff DS3, GIMX and adapter users will get the same bonuses that the DS3 does.

Talk about those catch-22s.

All this campaigning against the KB/M is doing is limiting the control scheme to specific groups of players; it's not eliminating it. It's only going to get worse as the control scheme becomes more and more mainstream on consoles. As the minority gets larger and manufacturers/developers start deeming it profitable to cater to KB/M users, you are going to start seeing KB/M support appear in console titles. At this point, it's only a matter of becoming a large minority.

At least native support gives normal players the ability to try the scheme for themselves without having to spend insane amounts of money to purchase the adapter or set up the program necessary to get KB/M working in the first place.

You will need: A gaming mouse capable of doing 2000 DPI or more, 5600 recommended. $20-70.

Another computer capable of running Ubuntu, such as a laptop.

Appropriate skill to get Ubuntu running, working, and configured properly.

Enough knowledge so that you don't wipe out your hard drive when installing it. (Important if you want to keep Windows around.)

If you guys want keyboard and mouse then go play EVE.

It isn't a matter of want..


THERE ARE ALREADY K+M PLAYERS IN DUST AND EVERY OTHER FPS GAME ON THE PS3.


I am not sure why the above is too complicated for 95% of you to understand. You can't keep keyboard and mouse players out.



And rest assured, if there is any way to gain an advantage using a mouse + keyboard you can expect 100% to have them used against you when you go up against serious null sec Eve Corps.

In Eve anyone who fails to use EVERY single advantage they can under some sort of e-honor code will get crushed by the ones willing to do ANYTHING to win.

If you think this is some Eve-player chest beating, you are wrong. It is just the plain truth of the mentality of the successful Eve players.

No, it is still eg chest-thumping. No matter how you attempt to justify it, and actually the "majority" of players within EVE Online are not such people as the minority attempt to protray.

So, it has been tested beforehand many times and it has been proven Mouse & Keyboard will always be superior to the gamepad in terms of accuracy. So, the game was made PS3 only because CCP stated they didn't want to split the EvE fanbase. So if the game is PS3 only which = Gamepad, then why are they giving the ability to use Keyboard & Mouse?

PC Gamers, the game is not intended for you, the game is intended as an exclusive for the PS3 and for a reason.
"Adapt or die" goes both ways, learn to use the gamepad, YOU are the minority.
Keyboard and mouse will break the game... don't add it CCP, you will ruin my chance at competitive play.

It isn't a matter of want..


THERE ARE ALREADY K+M PLAYERS IN DUST AND EVERY OTHER FPS GAME ON THE PS3.


I am not sure why the above is too complicated for 95% of you to understand. You can't keep keyboard and mouse players out.



And rest assured, if there is any way to gain an advantage using a mouse + keyboard you can expect 100% to have them used against you when you go up against serious null sec Eve Corps.

In Eve anyone who fails to use EVERY single advantage they can under some sort of e-honor code will get crushed by the ones willing to do ANYTHING to win.

If you think this is some Eve-player chest beating, you are wrong. It is just the plain truth of the mentality of the successful Eve players.


I haven't even brought up what the Russian players in Eve are capable of. They once cut power to someones house so that they could kill his titan when he went linkdead (titans take months of REAL TIME to make and are extremely valuable).

PS3 has full kb/m support so why wouldn't you use it to its fullest? That's like having a V8 and only allowing it to run on 6 cylinders. That's just plain stupid.

So can people shut up about this adapt or die and M+K would kill consoles yes but that is why you bring in things like Auto Aim which is unable to be turned on if using a M+K. And thus given controller users a better chance. but at the end of the day I would be plugging in my high end gaming keybloard and mou7se which is comfier for me and thus would spend more time playing the game. Because if people dont play because they dont like controllers then dustwould end up dieing due to lack of support from players,

TL:DR M+K if properly implemented would not kill the game. Also PS3 controllers are uncomfortable.

It will be left to EVE players who bought a PS3 to play this game, which will be a few thousand players. .

Considering they can run this game off the exact servers being used for Eve (which is quite profitable for them), I suspect they can keep this game online so that the 20k or so Eve players can use it as another metagame for Eve.

I'm sure they will enjoy their circlejerk.