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Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 14:27:00 - [1] - Quote Here we go again, it is time for another "STABBER MCSHANK PRO-TIP" THERE ARE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD USERS IN EVERY PS3 FPS RIGHT NOW!!! There, I said it. They are already in EVERY SINGLE FPS on the PS3. It doesn't matter whether they are using GIMX, Eagle Eye, or Splitfish. They are already in YOUR games and aren't going anywhere. All CCP is going to do by allowing Mouse and Keyboard natively is even the playing field so that anyone with a cheap $10 setup have the choice to play the same way those with the cash to burn (Eagle Eye or Splitfish) and highly technical (GIMX) are already playing. These threads serve exactly ZERO purpose. The sooner the ignorant among us learn this, the better.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 16:05:00 - [2] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: They're emulators, so they don't offer the same performance level of just allowing regular mice and keyboards. Also, that post you quoted hit the nail on the head in another way: those devices are hilariously overpriced. In any case, if they were to just recommend such devices and be done with it, there'd be even more QQ from the KB/M supporters than there has been from the DS3 users so far. I kind of feel sorry for CCP, because there's no bloodless way out of this issue. GIMX = Free, but difficult to setup unless you are somewhat technical. And the performance with it (under the bluetooth configuration) is just like gaming on a PC, trust me.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 17:28:00 - [3] - Quote Nashor Arkkenclaid wrote: You will need: A gaming mouse capable of doing 2000 DPI or more, 5600 recommended. $20-70. These are quite common for PC Gamers (thanks to Logitech and Razer mass marketing high DPI mice). Nashor Arkkenclaid wrote: Another computer capable of running Ubuntu, such as a laptop. If you already have a PC with your PS3 near it (like mine) this is moot. Don't forget company issued laptops that can be used provided you make a Linux Boot Disk on a USB stick (to avoid installing unauthorized software on company property). The advantage of a Laptop is 95% come with Bluetooth native on board. Nashor Arkkenclaid wrote: Appropriate skill to get Ubuntu running, working, and configured properly. The Ubuntu live boot CD + USB stick doesn't take any real skill at all. There are hundreds of guides out there now that are literally less than a page. Nashor Arkkenclaid wrote: Enough knowledge so that you don't wipe out your hard drive when installing it. (Important if you want to keep Windows around.) This is only a issue if you don't use a USB boot stick (see point above). It isn't a matter of making silly amounts of technical splices or even any major effort. I would wager most PC Gamers could get this setup in under 10 minutes with very little effort or cost. How common do you think the ability to set this kind of stuff up is in the current Eve player base? I would wager there are a nice hefty amount and the moment Dust players can impact the Strategic or Tactical situation of an established null sec group they WILL be using them. Embrace the change now or regret it later.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 17:42:00 - [4] - Quote It isn't a matter of want.. THERE ARE ALREADY K+M PLAYERS IN DUST AND EVERY OTHER FPS GAME ON THE PS3. I am not sure why the above is too complicated for 95% of you to understand. You can't keep keyboard and mouse players out. And rest assured, if there is any way to gain an advantage using a mouse + keyboard you can expect 100% to have them used against you when you go up against serious null sec Eve Corps. In Eve anyone who fails to use EVERY single advantage they can under some sort of e-honor code will get crushed by the ones willing to do ANYTHING to win. If you think this is some Eve-player chest beating, you are wrong. It is just the plain truth of the mentality of the successful Eve players. I haven't even brought up what the Russian players in Eve are capable of. They once cut power to someones house so that they could kill his titan when he went linkdead (titans take months of REAL TIME to make and are extremely valuable).
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 17:49:00 - [5] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: No, it is still eg chest-thumping. No matter how you attempt to justify it, and actually the "majority" of players within EVE Online are not such people as the minority attempt to protray. I didn't say the "majority" I said the "successful" ones. And yes, the really successful Eve players are most likely sociopaths which quite frankly means they care even less about e-honor over how much effort it takes to give themselves an advantage.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 20:38:00 - [6] - Quote Chew B0CCA wrote: It will be left to EVE players who bought a PS3 to play this game, which will be a few thousand players. . Considering they can run this game off the exact servers being used for Eve (which is quite profitable for them), I suspect they can keep this game online so that the 20k or so Eve players can use it as another metagame for Eve.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.28 23:56:00 - [7] - Quote Blunt Smkr wrote: Adahn Shovak wrote: Learn how to use KB&M NOW i dont think anyone needs to learn how to use a KB/M cause i think most learned that in elementary school. The reason most ps3 players hate the idea cause its like easy mode an the reason pc players want it cause they suk if they dont have it. so really pc players need to adapt or die They are adapting, by buying Eagle Eye, FragFX, or setting up GIMX.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:50:00 - [8] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: Just, don't add the KB&M, the negatives FAR outweigh the positives. Did you even read half of the posts in the thread? KB+M is already being used in DUST and every other PS3 FPS. Scream all you like, whine all you like, deny it all you like but it is a FACT. You can blow as much hot air as you like about the subject, but no matter what CCP does you will be getting shot at by someone with a KB+M so get over it.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:13:00 - [9] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: A large portion is against adding KB+M so no, we won't stop complaining... so yeah, **** off. Talk about being flat out brain-deficient. You are against adding something that is in EVERY PS3 game RIGHT NOW in hopes of a level playing field that doesn't exist (because people are already using KB+M in PS3 FPS). All you do when you don't allow KB+M is allow those THAT ARE ALREADY USING IT to continue to run amok in your game. I think you pubbies have finally done it, my brain is actually hemorrhaging from all the dimwits that don't have the ability to comprehend basic logic and facts.
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.29 20:19:00 - [10] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: Actually, when KB + M is emulated it has problems with LAG and such, so no need to make it easier. Actually, no it doesn't. At least not with some of the high quality devices.

Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.29 23:26:00 - [11] - Quote Sid Napier wrote: Actually, yes it does. Sounds like you have a crappy device. I haven't seen anyone with lag in GIMX in any PS3 game.

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