Why do you say that? I currently like the system as it is, btw who said they had to go by the definition? is it some rule or code? btw players who choose the basic classes will be able to still take down enemies using the latest tech. Sure it feels hard but it sure as hell does not feel impossiable. I like the feeling of earning skills and contributing them to armour and my character, i really do like that RPG element that I earned to be a "Bad ass" and if you did not notice if you cannot aim in the game even with the best armour, skills and weapons you can be killed by the lowest foe in the game. I like the game, I think it's balanced very well in terms of what it's trying to accomplish. I like the fact that I feel the RPG elements but play the FPS game just like any other.

Teamwork over both imo.

Well it could be more like Huxley got to beta test that before microsoft bought it and shelved it *sniff* had alot of potential would probably be playing that till this came out.

You do realize there is a skill to reduce random bullet spread?

oh THAT game where the devs brag about the detail of the characters hair it's good to know they had their priorities straight

lol true but during it's beta that i got a whole weekend of *roll's eyes* it's gun play was solid not as loose as dust and and for some reason the eastern hemi does have an obsession with Hair Final fantasy is a good example =p

I would like to see a team of militia's using awesome teamwork beat a team full of proto users Corp vs Corp! I wonder who would come out on top?

However, MMOFPS games emphasize player skill more than player statistics, as no number of in-game bonuses will compensate for a player's inability to aim and think tactically.

Seems like Dust fails to stay true to the last part.

of course a highly skilled team will take out a lesser skilled team.

Awww ballsinya got all butthurt and had to hide posts because someone showed his point up. Derp derp.

Why do people hide posts? I don't get it... Grow a pair and say "I guess you're right"
Some people

Yeah, or everyone will be stuck in hisec for months anyway. Then low sec. And one day we'll get null sec where what you do doesn't matter because you'll just get strikes.
Hi/Low sounds more fun for Dusters. Null is just EvE stuff (no-one cares until we see what's what).

@snake
Mostly right, just the bit about getting bonuses in other games. I agree you get to choose, but it is always from a limited selection (cod4 example -stoping power vs juggernaut).
Dust allows us to stack all the bonuses. New guys get destroyed, and I see this causing trouble down the line.

LoL the wikipedia as a source only a EVEtard what think this makes legit.

Why does it matter that the truth came from wikipedia?

Are you mad because it came from wikipedia or are you mad because its true?

Why does it matter that the truth came from wikipedia?

Are you mad because it came from wikipedia or are you mad because its true?

Advantages are given where there is no need.(no its called the grind of an MMO, my 100 hours vs your 10, I should have better gear)

FPS is about skill not SP (Yes but you yourself pointed out that this is a MMOFPS, Skill points are a MMO norm.)

keep up the weak argument that if you cant aim you cant kill.(um give me one FPS that you can't aim you can kill)

the problem is RBS negates the player's ability to aim.

Even with mediocre aim a guy in god armor has plenty of time to accidentily (accidentally) hit you with his proto gun.

Stop defending imbalane.(imbalance, maybe you should learn to spell it first,,)

Why does it matter that the truth came from wikipedia?

Are you mad because it came from wikipedia or are you mad because its true?

Advantages are given where there is no need.

FPS is about skill not SP

keep up the weak argument that if you cant aim you cant kill.

the problem is RBS negates the player's ability to aim.

Even with mediocre aim a guy in god armor has plenty of time to accidentily hit you with his proto gun.

Stop defending imbalane.

I've pointed out exactly how and why your reasoning was flawed, but also provided a LEGITIMATE reason why your poorly-reached conclusion was correct.

But you wouldn't bother to address that, would you?

First-person shooter

MMOFPS is an online gaming genre which features a persistent world and a large number of simultaneous players in a first-person shooter fashion.[10][11] These games provide large-scale, sometimes team-based combat. The addition of persistence in the game world means that these games add elements typically found in RPGs, such as experience points.[citation needed] However, MMOFPS games emphasize player skill more than player statistics, as no number of in-game bonuses will compensate for a player's inability to aim and think tactically.[12]


This was sourced from the wikipedia definition of MMO and its sub genres.

Seems like Dust fails to stay true to the last part.

Neocron is sometimes considered the first MMOFPS,[12][13] most consider it a hybrid of MMORPG and first-person shooter,[14][15] with the later PlanetSide allowing 399 players all to fight together on the same map. Some may consider Zipper's MAG an MMOFPS as it allows up to 256 players to fight together on the same map.[16]. The newest, and by far the biggest, MMOFPS to date that will be going into beta phases soon is PlanetSide 2 , sequel to the original game. It is said to be able to support up to 2,000 players in a single map, or continent of the game with a max cap of 6,000 players on a single server fighting across different continents.

@snake
Mostly right, just the bit about getting bonuses in other games. I agree you get to choose, but it is always from a limited selection (cod4 example -stoping power vs juggernaut).
Dust allows us to stack all the bonuses. New guys get destroyed, and I see this causing trouble down the line.

Ok, If this was just a FPS then I would get this argument and agree with you. But this is also a MMO. Almost all if not all MMO's have skill points, as you progress in the game an beat content or players you get more skill points, these are applied to many different categories to improve your avatar. In our case we use them on weapons, gear, mods, electronics. This is how you lvl up your player, otherwise whats the point of playing a MMO. Any good MMO the longer you play the better your stats a/o gear are supposed to be. I come from DCUO which is almost two years old and new players come in all the time, they all say the same thing "I can't beat the older players" "they players who were here since it started are to far ahead of me" This is just the way of any MMO, the longer and longer you play the greater the distance you get from a starting player to a Vet player. But if you work hard and get help and play right you should get close to those Vet players. Many mmos that have expansions, will use those to help everyone not get to far ahead of each other, the time before an expansion is the time to catch up to the other players, then when expansion comes out they work towards new goals for skills.

Do you guys not get this part? Do you not understand this is a MMOFPS, really the first of its kind. So get used to this sorta thing, its going to be the norm soon enough.

Tony, amongst others have a VERY big problem with there being MMO aspect sin this game.
Seriously, do a search and he's systematically complained about and demanded the removal of pretty much EVERY aspect of this game that isn't pure FPS.

It's part of a concerted attempt to turn DUST 514 into MAG 2.0

We call them MAGgots, but in a loving way.