There are things that need to be fixed (spawns) and there are things that need to be learned (EVERYTHING the MLG PRO TRYHARDS whine about).

We are beta testing and we are supposed to be finding imbalances and giving our opinion... I get the feeling that alot of you evetards think we should just play and shut up like its the perfect game. Well its not and ccp knows this, yet the fanboy in all of you are trying to act like it is. This is a console game not a PC game. The game needs to cater to casual console gamers to a certain extent while still holding its complexity and competitive nature.. If it doesn't it will fail plain and simple and then no one will play the game exept for the PC gamers that it was created for and beta tested by.

There is some serious ignorance and fanboyism going around this forum. Please get off your high horse and let us console gamers beta test this game and give feedback without being trolled. thank you that is all.

The community is already trying to silence our voice and it is sad because the game will fail without good console gamer feedback.

lol at the above poster. You actually want a bunch of people to quit. Evetards wants this game to fail?

After many long years of the capsuleers alone enjoying post-mortality, we too have been gifted life eternal.

We are the first mercenaries in history that are not paid to risk our lives. We are paid simply to do our job. We don't fight for ideals. We don't fight for glory. We don't fight for freedom.

We fight for money. Lots of it.

Disclaimer: Sure, as far as the "game" is concerned, there are still things to be done-- balance weapons and suits, vehicles... complete maps and integrate with EVE. Stats and slots and properties will change. As as for the way it plays... I'd say it's fine.

That guy that parked the dropship on the tower and is raining hatred and death down upon your heads? Good for him. He made a plan and stuck to it. Now make yours and take him out.

Enemy overran the map, captured all the points and has your team backed into a corner? Shame, that. There are at least 3 ways out of this situation if you have the training and determination. Not to mention this was easy to prevent in the first place.

Spawnkilled for the 3rd time at point B? Think next time. Your map shows you when points are being hacked, or are in process of being taken over, and if you've been killed on spawn more than once there it's your own fault.

I can go on and on, but the basic idea is the same. Use what you have available to you, most importantly, your brain. I run a minimum of 3 Type II Assault suit fits and at least 2 Type I Heavy fits, a combined minimum of three weapon types and tank combos I can choose upon spawn. If something isn't working, THINK. Try a different strategy, different weapon, recharge instead of buffer tank... something. Don't whine about nerfing **** because you're a lousy mercenary.

You get paid, now shut up and fight.

Good point about spawns. Something will need to be done, but what should it be? Randomization of drop-in location at the point you're spawning at? Invulnerability timer like other games (not a big fan of this idea, but all things being equal, it could happen). There's bound to be something... I'm just not sure what would work without introducing a subsequent lame strategy to combat the change.

Someone needs a big tall glass of calm down juice.

or so have some RDV's drop off the clones. Maybe they could be launched towards the ground at higher speeds than just dropping out of a dropship, or they could just be launched from drop-pods straight from the Warbarge.

Dude, this was in no way a PC/Console rant. No fanboyism or ignorance here. I was merely making a statement about putting on your big girl panties and fighting to win and doing it in a narratively interesting way.

It's not perfect. Things will change, probably lots of things. After launch things will continue to change. There may even be ponies.

All I was really getting at was that whining =/= feedback. Man up, fight the good fight and if whatever that rifle is firing ain't working for ya, figure out why before crying about it here.

lol at the above poster. You actually want a bunch of people to quit. Evetards wants this game to fail?

Wow, This is beta people! This is also for ALL players! Not just PC and Not just Console! Stop complaining at eachother and beta test a game that I personally think could be great! Chill out and concentrate on the testing and playing together and leave the playground fighting to the little kids.

The biggest problem is the Dropship camping. 2 good ships can change a game very quickly with good gunners. Some antiaircraft instalations which are hidden from ground troops by terrain would sort out the issue. It shouldn't be too bad once the draw distance is fixed either.

No. And again no.
You're trying to fix the current map which is totally not the issue. This map is a sample. More than that, it's a beta only map. No battle in Dust will actually take place on this map ever again.
Dust maps will be random to an extent and then corps will place building on them as they see fit (within physical limits set by CCP). Battles will also add an extra bit to this as you will be able to drop installations (turrets, resupply, clones etc') wherever you want during battle. You'll just need to own those installations in advance.

Now, about dropship "camping". It's not camping. It's a good strategy which utilizes a lot of skill. Do you have any idea what it takes to keep a dropship alive? Good pilots are very hard to find. Good gunners too.
So it's not an exploit. It's good healty thinking and planning. Even when the spawn points become random around a spot it'll still be valid. Would just required more watchful gunners.

When there are 2 good pilots flying around in the sky and killing everything on the map the game is almost unplayable. Its turns into a cat and mouse game. If there are good pilots in the sky I hide and just hope I find someone to kill on the ground. The dropships need to be nerfed.

Oh and we can play semantics all day its still camping.

When there are 2 good pilots in the sky and each has 2 gunners that's half the opposing team not taking objectives. You're basically a 12 person team against 6. Use your 12 people to take down the dropships. Get some missiles on them. Get tanks on them. Hell, get a turret and shoot at them.
Don't blame the 2 dropships for your incompetent team.

If things get really bad, call in a dropship of your own and either take them down with gunners or just ram them out of the sky. Both are tactics I've used myself.

If something isn't working, THINK[/b]. Try a different strategy, different weapon, recharge instead of buffer tank... something. Don't whine about nerfing **** because you're a lousy mercenary.

You get paid, now shut up and fight.

>No just tired of 8 year olds whining over mics

Then block them. So you are telling me you would rather have the game fail then have to click the block button? If the game is to complex for console gamers then you won't have to worry about hearing anyone on the mic because no one will play it.

After many long years of the capsuleers alone enjoying post-mortality, we too have been gifted life eternal.

We are the first mercenaries in history that are not paid to risk our lives. We are paid simply to do our job. We don't fight for ideals. We don't fight for glory. We don't fight for freedom.

We fight for money. Lots of it.

Disclaimer: Sure, as far as the "game" is concerned, there are still things to be done-- balance weapons and suits, vehicles... complete maps and integrate with EVE. Stats and slots and properties will change. As as for the way it plays... I'd say it's fine.

That guy that parked the dropship on the tower and is raining hatred and death down upon your heads? Good for him. He made a plan and stuck to it. Now make yours and take him out.

Enemy overran the map, captured all the points and has your team backed into a corner? Shame, that. There are at least 3 ways out of this situation if you have the training and determination. Not to mention this was easy to prevent in the first place.

Spawnkilled for the 3rd time at point B? Think next time. Your map shows you when points are being hacked, or are in process of being taken over, and if you've been killed on spawn more than once there it's your own fault.

I can go on and on, but the basic idea is the same. Use what you have available to you, most importantly, your brain. I run a minimum of 3 Type II Assault suit fits and at least 2 Type I Heavy fits, a combined minimum of three weapon types and tank combos I can choose upon spawn. If something isn't working, THINK. Try a different strategy, different weapon, recharge instead of buffer tank... something. Don't whine about nerfing **** because you're a lousy mercenary.

You get paid, now shut up and fight.