Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 22:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
L1BERT1NE X wrote:I was going to comment on the EVE vs FPS player topic and the value of their relative contibutions toward making this game a success but....nah.
I'm stocking up on beer and popcorn to enjoy witnessing the following inevitable events:
1. The combination of the EVE Forum community and the FPS forum communities (especially MAG) should result in record breaking amounts of : bans, locked threads, and behavior that Mr. Rogers would not approve of.
2. Once DUST/EVE are fully integrated, epic tear-filled, surprise-non-consensual-public-pillow-biting-catastrophes will occur in-game and be reported on for all to read.
Its going to be brilliant.
WRONG!!!!!!!!
(I think you mean "It's")
|
L1BERT1NE X
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
26
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 22:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Myles Aarne wrote:L1BERT1NE X wrote:I was going to comment on the EVE vs FPS player topic and the value of their relative contibutions toward making this game a success but....nah.
I'm stocking up on beer and popcorn to enjoy witnessing the following inevitable events:
1. The combination of the EVE Forum community and the FPS forum communities (especially MAG) should result in record breaking amounts of : bans, locked threads, and behavior that Mr. Rogers would not approve of.
2. Once DUST/EVE are fully integrated, epic tear-filled, surprise-non-consensual-public-pillow-biting-catastrophes will occur in-game and be reported on for all to read.
Its going to be brilliant. WRONG!!!!!!!! (I think you mean "It's")
lol, yes I did! |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
22
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 22:21:00 -
[63] - Quote
L1BERT1NE X wrote: lol, yes I did!
Well, since I agreed with everything you wrote, I had to finds SOME nit to pick! *Goes back to add a couple of +1s*
|
Max Trichomes
Quantum Kittens Syndicate
68
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 22:22:00 -
[64] - Quote
L1BERT1NE X wrote:
1. The combination of the EVE Forum community and the FPS forum communities (especially MAG) should result in record breaking amounts of : bans, locked threads, and behavior that Mr. Rogers would not approve of.
It's going to be brilliant.
For as mature and intelligent most of the Eve community is, the real bottom of the barrel comes out on the forums huh? It's like the worst Eve has to offer is on the forums all day. But hey as long as they are on the forums they are out of game. |
Ray seveN
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
71
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 22:24:00 -
[65] - Quote
V2 ELECTRON wrote:Ray seveN wrote:I've noticed that eve players try to enforce the eve aspect of dust while console fps players just say its too complicated and combersome. I'm a console fps person guy and I like the eve part of dust. It gives me something to think about before jumping into battle all willy nilly, my friends think other wise. They dont like that you have to learn skills to opperate anything. They dont like that you lose your weapons and equipment when you die. Most of them just wanna level up and get things automatically. If it were left to them I fear that dust might end up being a very dumbed down version of what the developers want the game to be. I like dust 514 but im just saying in order for the game to have a decent following you need more fps players possibly players from mag as it's the most similar thing to dust to beta test it. There's already alot of people from the mag community here, most of them enjoy it more than I do. Its the amazingly whiney "hardcore" fps crowd that wants "competitive" gameplay that I'm worried about. They love to swing around the nerf bat left and right just so the game works how they want it. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Trinity Council Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 23:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
my favorite quotes from comms in a match 'this game is such fu**ing bulls**t' next day, i see the almighty statius running around with a creo rifle, does this game suck enough for an individual, in a single weekend, to grind out prototype suit and weapons?
i may not be a hardcore FPS fan, but i do have some experience, and ive paid for about 13 years worth of eve online subscriptions across 3 different accounts, and am still terrible at that game.
what confuses me is people saying how bad this game sucks, with the tanks and the tower campers in this new build. tower campers are annoying until i find them, and then its a regular ol' shooting gallery with a sniper rifle or forge gun. god forbid you drop in a free dropship to come give them a 'what for' in person even... the 'tactics' that some use and other call exploits are relatively EASY to counter, you dont have to hunt and peck through tall grass(yet) to find this sniper on top of a structure, theyre pretty obvious and easy to spot.
i admit to having done some tower camping, and when people started catching on and imitating, i started bringing sniper rifles to matches and picking them off for free points, couple of tank pilots have found the small hills to prop on to get angles with 1hit-kill rail guns to take out the under tanked militia dropships. its not like theyre the ONLY ones who can get up there and its not like they are unhittable at that range... my only complaint is there should be a flight time and velocity value on the misiles ot limit their maximum range(similar to in eve) where the projectile will simply tumble to the ground for example. but thats fuel for another thread. |
Ender Storm
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
50
|
Posted - 2012.07.02 23:14:00 -
[67] - Quote
Oh God this thread!
Now I must chose, should i throw away my PC+EVE or should i throw away my ps3+codmw3+kz3?
Because acording the op i cant play both! |
Tus'sken Beebop
11
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 02:29:00 -
[68] - Quote
The failed logic and complete ignorance of the OP can be summed up from the title of this thread. As if both the console and PC gamers needed more fuel to flame each other. Yes, its a fact that both parties of EVE and PS3 have some die-hard fans whom are praying that Dust 514 will be a huge flop for their own petty reasons. It is up to us closed beta testers (whether from EVE Online or PS3) to make sure that does not happen by cooperatively insuring a successful merge of both platforms to New Eden, hence the slogan "One Universe". |
Izkael Lokk
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 05:58:00 -
[69] - Quote
^ Exactly i mean if were already bickering amongst ourselves in the beta, how are we supposed to play together and actualy make an impact. The way this thread is going makes me feel as if the final product will just be PC corps VS PS3 corps and that right there would kill the game. Dust is about team work and cooperation not whose got the bigger epeen. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 11:15:00 -
[70] - Quote
You say hardcore FPS players but we have players from COD/BF3 crying about how sooooooooooooo hard this game is and want it dumbed down to suit ther IQ so its another COD clone except in space
TBH id rarther have the EVE players and a few smart FPS players but we cant have it both ways |
|
Sgt Slab Ranko
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
32
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 12:17:00 -
[71] - Quote
Max Trichomes wrote:V2 ELECTRON wrote:As stated in the title, the reason why I think they shouldn't is because most of them aren't hardcore console fps fans, they are most likely people who play eve and/or play fps on the pc. If the game is a console fps it should be tested by console fps players from battlefield, halo, mag. and etc, not eve players. Also i could just be a dumb bastard who doesn't know sh*t at all but eve fanboys are really annoying imo. I play Eve, and I have been playing console FPS since Golden Eye 64. Non-Eve players are really annoying IMO. They come in here with dumb ass suggestions and what not, things that do not fit into the world of Eve. Eve players tend to be older, more mature, and more intelligent (probably due to the complexity and learning curve of the game) than most other game's playerbase. It's one of the biggest selling points of Eve for many. Console FPS players tend be on the complete other end of the spectrum. So I would propose that ONLY Eve players should be allowed in the Beta, for fear the dumb public will try to force their dumb will on what should be a smart game. The only reason the general public's stupidity doesn't scare me that much is that CCP has a pretty good track record of not listening or bending to the dumb masses.
Lets try to work together to make this game work, its the complexity that got me interested in the first place.
Max Trichomes, you can't judge someones intelligence by the games they choose to play.
V2 ELECTRON, we need eve players to test this aswell as they know alot more about the ingame politics and economy. Also they could be very proficient FPS console gamers aswell.
I hope to hell this game is not dumbed down. |
The Lyposian
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 12:49:00 -
[72] - Quote
The one thing that i think will really get the player base once it's Live is CCP's stalwart efforts (in EVE) in shutting down cheats and farmers. so many other games have fallen, and sometimes very quickly, to that behavior and it never really gets rectified. with CCP, i know that if it does happen in Dust, it won't be for long and the true player base will be happier for that. |
The Lyposian
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 12:51:00 -
[73] - Quote
Sgt Slab Ranko wrote:... you can't judge someones intelligence by the games they choose to play..
true, but when the average age of EVE players is somewhere near 30-ish, it says something about the maturity level felt in the game.
|
Seeker of Cheese
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
163
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 13:56:00 -
[74] - Quote
The Lyposian wrote:Sgt Slab Ranko wrote:... you can't judge someones intelligence by the games they choose to play.. true, but when the average age of EVE players is somewhere near 30-ish, it says something about the maturity level felt in the game.
Exactly. Never once in my time playing EVE have I ever had someone with their voice cracking from puberty try to tell me they slept with my 54 year old mother the night before. |
Simon Havoc
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
26
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 14:19:00 -
[75] - Quote
King Snuggler wrote:V2 ELECTRON wrote:King Snuggler wrote:V2 ELECTRON wrote:As stated in the title, the reason why I think they shouldn't is because most of them aren't hardcore console fps fans, they are most likely people who play eve and/or play fps on the pc. If the game is a console fps it should be tested by console fps players from battlefield, halo, mag. and etc, not eve players. Also i could just be a dumb bastard who doesn't know sh*t at all but eve fanboys are really annoying imo.
-Only reason i want more players in the beta to test out the game, to help make it better. Have a good story or mechanics don't make this good if someone cant kill someone due to the crap hit detection, they'll be turned off by it and tell their friends not to get it so you'll have that small fanbase but will eventually die out like mag Kinda unfair to us.. I played EVE for 7 years.. have recently retired from the game (burn out) I have been here testing (weekend tests access) and so far I like what I have seen. the game has plenty of potential and the fact that I will be able to blow up EVE players starships out of the sky appeals to me a lot, interacting with them is appealing as well, we all want a great game regardless if we played EVE or not , EVE is a special type of game, with plenty of player created content as well as drama :P but in its right without EVE there would be no DUST , were not all that annoying, mostly a lot of EVE players are friendly :D especially when in the EVE radio channel :D. sadly ive only met the annoying ones. There are some really annoying players one of them being a prime example is Mittani.....CEO of Goonswarm..
LOL ALL PRAISE THE MITTANI!! If it wasnt for someone willing to be the badguy you all would have no one to poke at. I love the fact he is all about ruining someones day. Because it gives me something to be entertained by. |
Simon Havoc
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
26
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 14:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
Sgt Slab Ranko wrote:Max Trichomes wrote:V2 ELECTRON wrote:As stated in the title, the reason why I think they shouldn't is because most of them aren't hardcore console fps fans, they are most likely people who play eve and/or play fps on the pc. If the game is a console fps it should be tested by console fps players from battlefield, halo, mag. and etc, not eve players. Also i could just be a dumb bastard who doesn't know sh*t at all but eve fanboys are really annoying imo. I play Eve, and I have been playing console FPS since Golden Eye 64. Non-Eve players are really annoying IMO. They come in here with dumb ass suggestions and what not, things that do not fit into the world of Eve. Eve players tend to be older, more mature, and more intelligent (probably due to the complexity and learning curve of the game) than most other game's playerbase. It's one of the biggest selling points of Eve for many. Console FPS players tend be on the complete other end of the spectrum. So I would propose that ONLY Eve players should be allowed in the Beta, for fear the dumb public will try to force their dumb will on what should be a smart game. The only reason the general public's stupidity doesn't scare me that much is that CCP has a pretty good track record of not listening or bending to the dumb masses. Lets try to work together to make this game work, its the complexity that got me interested in the first place. Max Trichomes, you can't judge someones intelligence by the games they choose to play. V2 ELECTRON, we need eve players to test this aswell as they know alot more about the ingame politics and economy. Also they could be very proficient FPS console gamers aswell. I hope to hell this game is not dumbed down.
If this game were to be dumbed down I would call a crusade to publicly label people like V2 Electron as the culprits. Just because I can. |
Asno Masamang
Odd Shadows Inc
122
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 14:42:00 -
[77] - Quote
Simon Havoc wrote:If this game were to be dumbed down I would call a crusade to publicly label people like V2 Electron as the culprits. Just because I can. Frankly, I don't think that would be fair. Yes, he started this thread, but he also listened to the responses, mind you others did not but he did. He raised what he thought was a valid point and respected the counter arguments. At the same time, some of the EVE players have and were making some of the same arguments he was, but unlike him, they continue to believe they were right.
Regarding Mittani, I rather enjoyed the show he put on and actually hope he makes a sequel. |
Stoofigus McGraw
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
152
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 15:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
I dont agree with OP whatsoever, i want Dust to be the console EvE! I want it to be difficult, fun, interesting. Not just some vanilla copy-paste fps like all FPS games are nowadays.
EvE players SHOULD test this and give feedback, and with that, it could be developed more in tune with EvE functions and stuff.
____________________________________________________
EDIT
What about this game is not Hardcore enough for a person? This is probably the most hardcore Console game i've ever played. It doesn't have an EVE learning curve, but it definitely has it's own massive learning curve.
Dust, a brand new game, is already more hardcore and better than other FPS games that have been around since the beginning. So i say that everything that is going on during testing should stay as it is in testing.
Screw the people that want this game dumbed down, its supposed to be hard, and if a player really is a 'Hardcore fps player', they'd be on this game like a fat kid on donuts. |
Cong Zilla
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
15
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 16:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
V2 ELECTRON wrote:Also i could just be a dumb bastard who doesn't know sh*t at all Knowing is half the battle.
|
Cong Zilla
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
15
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 16:37:00 -
[80] - Quote
JONLUK167 wrote:Kitt 514 wrote:so in other words you'd like to let console pubbies dumb it down to the point where its like every other fps?
eve players annoying? wait till i can orbital strike your ass Stick with EVE thats why there is a big chance this game will burn out quickly because you pc players think your **** dont stink but the money is in CONSOLE GAMES YOU DUMB PUBBIE!!!!
Sorry but you just made yourself sound like a total idiot. Free to play MMO's are where the money is at. The company that makes League of Legends made more money than Blizzard last year and that game is crap.
|
|
Eirik DenRoue
22
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 19:06:00 -
[81] - Quote
Asno Masamang wrote:Greetings, V2 ELECTRON wrote:As stated in the title, the reason why I think they shouldn't is because most of them aren't hardcore console fps fans, they are most likely people who play eve and/or play fps on the pc. While I disagree with you, I can understand your point. The thing you need to understand though is that the EVE players are the ones who have paid the bills for this game and will continue to pay the bills when the CoD and Halo crowds have moved on to CoD-2013 Q1 or Halo 25 or Killzone 3000. This game is an extension of our game and as such we have a very vested interest in it being done right. Additionally, we understand the lore behind this game and have helped write that lore over the last 10 years. When this game launches, it will be the money we have earned in EVE that will be used to pay for the Dust mercenaries, so again we have a vested interest in seeing it get done right. Finally, while I am not one, there are plenty of hardcore FPS fans in EVE, but as I have stated in many threads, Dust is not an FPS, it is a MMORPG with a FPS combat system... There are huge differences, and I for one am glad for it.
These two put it perfectly. and I agree with you both.
I feel Dust won't appeal to most FPS console gamers. There are a lot of things in Dust that aren't very user friendly; such as, the very complicated AUR system, and the very confusing skills system.
However, this game is going to be interacting very much with EVE players. The people that play Dust, and the people that play EVE need to be able to get along.
So while Dust 514 may not be a very good match for the mass FPS market, it will be of interest to EVE like minded individuals that enjoy more action and adventure. Which is just what the universe needs
|
JONLUK167
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
18
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 19:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
Asno Masamang wrote:JONLUK167 wrote:Stick with EVE thats why there is a big chance this game will burn out quickly because you pc players think your **** dont stink but the money is in CONSOLE GAMES YOU DUMB PUBBIE!!!! Ummm, let's look at this a bit. EVE has been around for 10 years... The same EVE game... People spend$15 per month on EVE... Every year there is a new FPS of the year and the hard core FPS players migrate to it... It seems to me that you guys are the ones who kill the gamess, we simply make ours better and better, better.
IVE been on EVE for 6+ years if you realy look close at the number of eve players its not what they seem to be, i have friends that have multiple accounts so its realy not growing the way you say it is and there are halo, gears, modernwarfare ext. that have been and will be playing for many years to come and they are in the millions.
|
Izkael Lokk
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2012.07.03 23:58:00 -
[83] - Quote
JONLUK167 wrote:Asno Masamang wrote:JONLUK167 wrote:Stick with EVE thats why there is a big chance this game will burn out quickly because you pc players think your **** dont stink but the money is in CONSOLE GAMES YOU DUMB PUBBIE!!!! Ummm, let's look at this a bit. EVE has been around for 10 years... The same EVE game... People spend$15 per month on EVE... Every year there is a new FPS of the year and the hard core FPS players migrate to it... It seems to me that you guys are the ones who kill the gamess, we simply make ours better and better, better. IVE been on EVE for 6+ years if you realy look close at the number of eve players its not what they seem to be, i have friends that have multiple accounts so its realy not growing the way you say it is and there are halo, gears, modernwarfare ext. that have been and will be playing for many years to come and they are in the millions.
I think what he was getting at is that CCP only released EVE and have supported it for 10 years with a constant fan base. Yes console games have alot more people playing them, but you'd expect that as the majority either can't afford or just couldn't be bothered with a PC rig to run games. also halo 2 and 3 were released bothe a few years ago and the community on them is dead (im first and foremost a console gamer). |
Deacyde Widowtaker
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
14
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 00:36:00 -
[84] - Quote
I play EVE, care bear actually, but I'll school you and your crew in fps. Been playing em sine DOOM and Quake were teh hawt ****.
I was playing duck hunt, when you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye :) |
Sgt Slab Ranko
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
32
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 01:29:00 -
[85] - Quote
Yes, I can see this game reaching to the more mature players but everyone should be welcome. I don't think there is an MMO with FPS gameplay mixed in with RPG and RTS elements on a console yet, never even mind to the scale Dust could reach, you can reposition the acronyms anyway you wish but it combines all four. If you get at least four on comms then thats where the RTS comes in, if you can get a full team on comms together then this could be awesome, logistics, squad movement, tactical deployment, etc. Lastly the RPG element is entirely down to the player, how will you play, what is your role, how you develope your skills, etc. The FPS side does need to be fine tuned alot, hence the massive beta trial. I hope Dust continues to expand the universe and experience exponentially after the official release, as the beta is only continuing to get better after each downtime and markedly better after the server wipe. |
Eirnin Solista
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
34
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 02:05:00 -
[86] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:I have played eve for something like 8 years. I also play on my ps3 more than is probably healthy. 1314 psn trophies right now. (Yay epeen) Most people who play dust and are also eve players probably have similar stories (Even if they do not mirror my excessive gaming habits) though there are a few who apparently bought a Ps3 just for dust and well... I'll stop there.
That said, It's a very silly thing to suggest. No matter how you put it, Dust is an extension to Eve. Whatever happens in dust correlates to eve, and that very much makes dust an eve player's business. Saying "XXX should not beta test because they don't know what they are talking about" Could just as easily apply to 90% of people on the internet.
You're not pissed at eve fanboys, you're pissed at fanboys in general. And this is very understandable. But, if we could exclude people from the beta as easily as you seem to want... the beta would be very empty and not very fun :(
I bought a PS3 just for DUST 514 (Ok, and Infamous... 2... but that was really it) but I also have an Xbox 360 and play plenty of shooters on that. In all honesty though, the nu,bers of shooters are making me sick. What's happened to games like Spyro, Army Men (the helicopter ones), Drakengard 2, etc. All these new games are sad remakes with minor twists. I agree DUST 514 plays similar to Battlefield (Battlefield 2142 most notably, the titan maps are like skirmish) but DUST 514 isn't just balancing or minor customization tweaks, DUST 514 rewrites most other fps games (though I keep hearing about Mag though never really looked at it) and gives you so much more customization in just the pretty much Alpha state it's in now. Can you imagine all the choices once this game is fully finished?!
Oh, and it does blu-ray, can't forget the blu-ray. |
Fat Axel
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
21
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 04:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
although i like that im in the same world as eve players but im considered a lower class console junkie, it kinda just makes me feel like i fit into the role as a dust mercenary beter, i do also stongly agree that this game is very important to alot of eve players, and they deserve the right to play this game as much as anyone else, i do think that there should be some sort of indicater on their character that they are from eve... i.e. a symbol on the helmet or something so i know who to kill first |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 04:25:00 -
[88] - Quote
Fat Axel wrote:although i like that im in the same world as eve players but im considered a lower class console junkie, it kinda just makes me feel like i fit into the role as a dust mercenary beter, i do also stongly agree that this game is very important to alot of eve players, and they deserve the right to play this game as much as anyone else, i do think that there should be some sort of indicater on their character that they are from eve... i.e. a symbol on the helmet or something so i know who to kill first
Mark me up yo. see how much you can drop me. it'll be fun for the both of us. |
lycan MUT
Blazed Nomadz
2
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 04:48:00 -
[89] - Quote
i love how people in this thread are trying to compare EVE(pc game/mmorpg) to FPS(console games/fps) lol its like comparing apples an oranges you keep saying eves been around for 10+years an ok congratz thats a good thing but think of it like this its a pc game 1 an 2 its a flipping mmorpg thats why its been around so long look how long world of warcraft runescape an any other rpg has been around probably the same length or longer then eve why because there MMORPG GAMES NOT FPS DUH..... FPs change every year 1 because there on a console an 2 they FPS industry is always changing an there coming up with something new nothing changes in rpg really it all involves the same concept an thats it
edit:: the point of this rant stop comparing EVE to other games other then rpgs plain an simple because your comapring apples an oranges an it makes no since what so ever |
Fat Axel
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
21
|
Posted - 2012.07.04 04:49:00 -
[90] - Quote
RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Fat Axel wrote:although i like that im in the same world as eve players but im considered a lower class console junkie, it kinda just makes me feel like i fit into the role as a dust mercenary beter, i do also stongly agree that this game is very important to alot of eve players, and they deserve the right to play this game as much as anyone else, i do think that there should be some sort of indicater on their character that they are from eve... i.e. a symbol on the helmet or something so i know who to kill first Mark me up yo. see how much you can drop me. it'll be fun for the both of us.
come at me bro lol |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |