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Datura Sandatsu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.29 13:39:00 -
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Please allow us to do this. It just feels unnecessarily restrictive having to run off to cover and THEN reload before being able to get back in to the fight.
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Moorian Flav
Ectype Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.29 13:47:00 -
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I think they did this to be strategic. On the other side of things though, I was under fire in an open space last night and was dodging fire while trying to reload. I accidentally hit sprint twice during that time where I had to actually perform a reload 3 times before I was able to fire. If not for a friendly, I would of not survived. Some would say in that instance there is a problem with the game while others for that same instance would say I need more skill with the controls. For that instance, I am leaning toward the latter. |
Bravo SnakeBlood
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Posted - 2012.06.29 13:48:00 -
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Ah the sprint and reload tread is being remade, I think its fine the way it is or mabye once you start to reaload it stops you from being able to sprint as yes it annoying when you think the reload is finished then sprint only to have to start again,
Or another way would be to have the gun reload in steps which sprinting would interupt but when reloading would continue for the latest step, Step one remove Mag, step two incert new one, step three coc the gun(if applyable) and your set, the down side would be once step one is complete your running on empty appart from one potential bullet that chamered(again if applyable)
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Datura Sandatsu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.29 13:50:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:I think they did this to be strategic. On the other side of things though, I was under fire in an open space last night and was dodging fire while trying to reload. I accidentally hit sprint twice during that time where I had to actually perform a reload 3 times before I was able to fire. If not for a friendly, I would of not survived. Some would say in that instance there is a problem with the game while others for that same instance would say I need more skill with the controls. For that instance, I am leaning toward the latter.
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.06.29 16:16:00 -
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Datura Sandatsu wrote:
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha.
Time to start the debate again:
I argue that you don't have the hand/eye coordination to reload AND be in a full sprint at the same time.
If you're able to reload, then you're not really in a FULL sprint, you're just running.
IMO, I think asking for the ability to reload while sprinting IS A BIT LAZY. |
Datura Sandatsu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.29 17:49:00 -
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Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha.
Time to start the debate again: I argue that you don't have the hand/eye coordination to reload AND be in a full sprint at the same time. If you're able to reload, then you're not really in a FULL sprint, you're just running. IMO, I think asking for the ability to reload while sprinting IS A BIT LAZY.
Asking for this is lazy? What?
Its not a debate, Its very much possible. Especially seeing as this is the future and everything! |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:07:00 -
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Datura Sandatsu wrote:Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha.
Time to start the debate again: I argue that you don't have the hand/eye coordination to reload AND be in a full sprint at the same time. If you're able to reload, then you're not really in a FULL sprint, you're just running. IMO, I think asking for the ability to reload while sprinting IS A BIT LAZY. Asking for this is lazy? What? Its not a debate, Its very much possible. Especially seeing as this is the future and everything!
I'm not doubting that it's possible to reload while running. I'm saying that you shouldn't be able to go full sprint.
The act of sprinting requires your arms to help you keep balance while trying to go full speed. If your hands are occupied doing other actions then it's not focused on the actions needed to keep you at speed.
If you want to be able to hit the reload button after you've gone into sprint, fine. But your speed should be reduced as a result.
As for asking for this kind of game mechanic as being LAZY. To me it sounds like you want this game to be made easy for you. That's what I meant. |
stephen voutori
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:11:00 -
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Datura Sandatsu wrote:Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha.
Time to start the debate again: I argue that you don't have the hand/eye coordination to reload AND be in a full sprint at the same time. If you're able to reload, then you're not really in a FULL sprint, you're just running. IMO, I think asking for the ability to reload while sprinting IS A BIT LAZY. Asking for this is lazy? What? Its not a debate, Its very much possible. Especially seeing as this is the future and everything!
I think if you can reload while jumping you should be able to reload while sprinting. I think your hand/eye coordination would be hindered even more while jumping.
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Eirik DenRoue
22
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:16:00 -
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For the love of Thor! Let us sprint and reload at the same time!
Seriously, you can do it in real life. Really... I've done it, it works. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:23:00 -
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stephen voutori wrote:
I think if you can reload while jumping you should be able to reload while sprinting. I think your hand/eye coordination would be hindered even more while jumping.
I agree, your hand/eye coordination should be hindered more while jumping. Guess where my vote on that game mechanic lies? |
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Datura Sandatsu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.29 20:40:00 -
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Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:
I know what you are saying, But i believe that restricting the player from performing actions which are very much possible in real life for the sake of balance, is a bit lazy.
It just seems wrong to not be able to sprint and reload. Its just frustrating. Especially when you have already tried to reload several times, Haha.
Time to start the debate again: I argue that you don't have the hand/eye coordination to reload AND be in a full sprint at the same time. If you're able to reload, then you're not really in a FULL sprint, you're just running. IMO, I think asking for the ability to reload while sprinting IS A BIT LAZY. Asking for this is lazy? What? Its not a debate, Its very much possible. Especially seeing as this is the future and everything! I'm not doubting that it's possible to reload while running. I'm saying that you shouldn't be able to go full sprint. The act of sprinting requires your arms to help you keep balance while trying to go full speed. If your hands are occupied doing other actions then it's not focused on the actions needed to keep you at speed. If you want to be able to hit the reload button after you've gone into sprint, fine. But your speed should be reduced as a result. As for asking for this kind of game mechanic as being LAZY. To me it sounds like you want this game to be made easy for you. That's what I meant.
No, You couldnt be more wrong. I dont want the game made easier. Sprinting and reloading would not change the difficulty at all, It would just eliminate some un-needed frustration.
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Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.06.30 06:38:00 -
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Datura Sandatsu wrote:
No, You couldnt be more wrong. I dont want the game made easier. Sprinting and reloading would not change the difficulty at all, It would just eliminate some un-needed frustration.
Basically, you're asking for this game mechanic to make it easier to shoot back at your opponent, by allowing you to reload while sprinting. |
Datura Sandatsu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.30 12:19:00 -
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Jin J'Rayle wrote:Datura Sandatsu wrote:
No, You couldnt be more wrong. I dont want the game made easier. Sprinting and reloading would not change the difficulty at all, It would just eliminate some un-needed frustration.
Basically, you're asking for this game mechanic to make it easier to shoot back at your opponent, by allowing you to reload while sprinting.
No, Not to make it easier, But just so we can get back to the fight quicker.
There have been a couple of times where both me and an enemy have ran out of ammo and flap about like idiots trying to hide so we can reload.
Its just more convenient, It adds nothing to make it easier or harder. |
Drake-696
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.06.30 14:11:00 -
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Eirik DenRoue wrote:For the love of Thor! Let us sprint and reload at the same time!
Seriously, you can do it in real life. Really... I've done it, it works.
I was army infantry. It's not nearly as easy as you make it sound. Running . . . yes, sprinting, no. The default animation seems to be running, though, unless you are a heavy.
I'll admit there have been myriad instances where I decided to sprint instead of reloading. The thing is, if you could reload while sprinting you would almost always sprint and reload. I know I would.
I actually like it the way it is now.
Jin J'Rayle wrote:stephen voutori wrote:
I think if you can reload while jumping you should be able to reload while sprinting. I think your hand/eye coordination would be hindered even more while jumping.
I agree, your hand/eye coordination should be hindered more while jumping. Guess where my vote on that game mechanic lies?
Ditto. Jumping and reloading is meh. However, I agree with Jin in that if you can jump and reload, then why the heck can't you sprint and reload. Again, I don't think you should be able to do either, but Jin makes a valid point. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
19
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Posted - 2012.06.30 15:28:00 -
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I kinda' liked the idea of Bravo SnakeBlood about the step-by-step reload process.
Example: - Run out of ammo, proceed to reload. - Come under enemy fire, decide to sprint. The ammo magazine has already been removed, and the character starts sprinting. - I feel safer now and stop my sprint, proceed to reload again. The animation would somewhar resume from the point it left of with the magazine removed. - Spot an enemy that's easy to kill, proceed to switch weapon. The magazine is already placed but the weapon isn't reloaded. - Finished killing the guy with my side-arm and I switch back to my main weapon. the reload animation resumes from the point where the soldier reloads the chamber of the gun and the weapon is ready to fire. |
Cherry Mercenary
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.06.30 16:05:00 -
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Pros: makes the game feel more fluid Cons: n/a
problem? Sprinting limits you to running in one direction (ie. predictable), so I don't understand how that would be in any way helpful during a firefight. Maybe if sprinting gave your character like a x6 multiplier to movement speed, but it doesn't. |
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