Nova, should it be green lit

And people wonder why I'm so salty

And people wonder why I'm so salty

People have said that looks like a clone of X or Y or Z game already out there. Well, thats not so bad, COD, the BF series and Halo are all massively successful. For Nova to be compared to them at this early stage even without the Dust bits we all know and love bodes very well for the future of a New Eden FPS game.

I do hope we get full controller support with good aim assist so those that want to like me can just sit back and chill out on the couch and shoot things.

Controller support is something I'd like to have.

However Aim assist in a PC game is virtually unheard of as mice are so accurate. It would also harm take up of the game on PC if players knew that there was aim assist.

That being said, I use a Steam controller for any PC FPS I do and that is really good without needing aim assist.

" Mice are so accurate " that's exactly why controller support should have a good working aim assist.

And as I pointed out, PC players will not play a game that has aim assist. It's considered to be botting and therefore cheating. Part of the reason they tend to be dismissive of console gaming and gamers. But thats a different argument which I'm not going to get drawn into.

And as I pointed out, PC players will not play a game that has aim assist. It's considered to be botting and therefore cheating. Part of the reason they tend to be dismissive of console gaming and gamers. But thats a different argument which I'm not going to get drawn into.

" Mice are so accurate " that's exactly why controller support should have a good working aim assist.

" Mice are so accurate " that's exactly why controller support should have a good working aim assist.

You been salty waaaaay before that statement was made. No?

And people wonder why I'm so salty

" Mice are so accurate " that's exactly why controller support should have a good working aim assist.

The reason people are comparing to to COD and Halo is because it has the same ****** elements of the games, small areas, small numbers, TDM only, bloody screen so real!, etc

We already have enough crappy clones of said games so why do we want another one?

16v16 is not small

Yes it is. If Zipper could do it on the PS2 with SOCOM III in 2005, there's no reason they can't do more than 16 v 16 on PC.

I say this because Arena seems to have been confused with Nova so Dust players have been assuming that the FPS project is arena based like the older Quake titles. Nova, should it be green lit, will be very much the kind of experience we're used to in Dust right now and iterated upon further after that.

These are simply the realities of game development I'm afraid. There have been hundreds of games that never saw the light of day publicly, even after millions have been spent on them.

The fact that CCP is prepared to share and ask for feedback on two projects is however encouraging. And it should be noted that the two 'Projects' that had been previously demonstrated at Fanfest, EveVR and Nemesis have both been green lit shortly after becoming Valkyrie and Gunjack.

Yes it is. If Zipper could do it on the PS2 with SOCOM III in 2005, there's no reason they can't do more than 16 v 16 on PC.

How is Dust not an arena shooter? Maps are tiny.

So responding to some of what I've read from you good people so far...

The MMO aspect of Dust isn't going anywhere. It may change, alter, become lessened in one degree, expanded in others. If over a decade of making the most complex MMO in the history of gaming has taught CCP anything, it's how to do MMO.

What they can't do and Dust was a brave attempt at it, is make a super fast, super slick, lag free FPS environment. And the brutal truth in today's very competitive free to play FPS market is unless that element works from day one of launch, then no matter how much MMO is in it, today's gaming public will skip over it and try the next one.

Those who read and frequent these forums will certainly try it for longer than most. But CCP needs mass market appeal for this to be viable. And we need it too, because without it this game dies and Nova won't grow to full product that can sustain the cost of adding to it and expansions. Not understanding that or insisting that ALL the MMO be in the game from day one without getting the FPS rock solid first, dooms the game.

CCP put the cart before the horse with Dust 514 as far as the MMO aspect is concerned. Resources and a great deal of Dev time was spent on a single feature, Obital Bombardment, which ultimately was only used by a minority of players, approximately 1% of the player base according the CCP Rattati in a recent interview. Those are resources that in hindsight were frankly squandered when you look at how poor the games FPS aspect was at launch, resulting in a massive number of fixes for Uprising, none of which could get past the poor original code without a full rewrite.

I will certainly still push for the MMO to be added when the game is able to support it but only when it works both for the players and the game experience, not for the sake of having it.

It is rare for a games original concept to get a second chance. CCP Rattati's plan to get the basics nailed before adding the rest of the concept is the best chance we have as fans to see Dusts potential realised.

The reason people are comparing to to COD and Halo is because it has the same ****** elements of the games, small areas, small numbers, TDM only, bloody screen so real!, etc

We already have enough crappy clones of said games so why do we want another one?

I realize that your posts are just a rhetorical excuse to spout off and you are not actually interested in reading apposing viewpoints, but...

small areas: The map they used for the Demo was small, but they intend to reuse the DUST maps for Planetary Conquest and I would assume there will be a variety of different size maps for Public matches.

small numbers: Only the demo was 6 v 6, and that was due to physical space restrictions at the venue and to reduce que times since there might not always be 32 people standing around waiting to play. Nova will be 16 v 16 at launch (much more than COD), and if the architecture holds up they can always add game modes with more people later.


Sorry, I don't know what TDM means, nor do I get the "bloody screen so real!" reference.

oh. And Fox: I think I have a forum man-crush on your posts. Thanks for all the info and your level head over the years. All the best to you and I hope to see your name pop up in the future whatever-game-to-come forums may exist.

Oh they totally want to put skirmish 1.0 back into the game.

The maps in Nova already have areas that are unlockable and need actions to unlock.