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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
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Posted - 2016.02.06 00:25:00 -
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I wanted some opinions before I make a stupid decision on buy a gaming PC.
My budget is 2.150 euros in this price shipping must be included cause its all I will spend.
Please take a look at this user's items list and tell me which one should I get for my budget with shipping included.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=hardwarecenter24&_sop=16
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Cpl Foster USMC
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.06 00:50:00 -
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i'm in the same frame of mind, about to buy a gaming PC...but i'm picking from this list for anything under $1000 US...
once again, any advice from the PC Master Race...?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.02.06 01:00:00 -
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The PC Masterrace Wiki has some good builds:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds
If you go for the Next Gen Crusher you should be fine and be able to play Legion-Not-Legion. Now of course the list is for when you want to build the PC yourself. But you can also take a parts list and go with that to a shop, ask them what they can do and if they can build it for you. Will be more expensive, but saves you the hassle with building it yourself (if you don't want to build it yourself of course). This sure beats most prebuilts when it comes to performance, as many of them are often limited by a single part.
Prices may also vary depending on your country.
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 01:07:00 -
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if you go to my first post and click on the link and after click on price + shipping higher first on the "sort" box and scroll down you can see some really good choices the thing is I don't know which one to pick for my budget please take a look which one is the best choice for gaming
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2016.02.06 01:44:00 -
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No listings on that user?
Cpl Foster USMC wrote:i'm in the same frame of mind, about to buy a gaming PC...but i'm picking from this list for anything under $1000 US...
once again, any advice from the PC Master Race...?
There aren't many great options on that list but this is the best of the bunch (that's not saying much).
Unfortunately with the pre-built market, most builders go balls-to-the-wall with the CPU (because it's the thing the most non PC people recognize) and then skimp out on the rest. The i7-4790 is a top tier CPU from the (only very recently) last generation of CPUs, but the GTX 760 is a low-mid tier GPU from the well-and-truly last generation of GPUs.
As a very general rule of thumb, to get a good match your GPU will end up costing about 50% more than your CPU. eg. an i5-4690 is $215, and that matches very well with a GTX 970 which is $330. By 'matches very well' I mean that they'll bottleneck at around the same time.
If you want to go for a pre-built, choose a builder that lets you customize your build. You can then pick a system with a CPU that suits your budget and change the inevitably s**t GPU to something more appropriate.
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 01:57:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:No listings on that user? EDIT: Didn't click on the user whoops. I'd be wary of those bundles, none of them seem to include a PSU and a lot of them don't even have a GPU. The prices seem a little high too. Cpl Foster USMC wrote:i'm in the same frame of mind, about to buy a gaming PC...but i'm picking from this list for anything under $1000 US...
once again, any advice from the PC Master Race...? There aren't many great options on that list but this is the best of the bunch (that's not saying much). Unfortunately with the pre-built market, most builders go balls-to-the-wall with the CPU (because it's the thing the most non PC people recognize) and then skimp out on the rest. The i7-4790 is a top tier CPU from the (only very recently) last generation of CPUs, but the GTX 760 is a low-mid tier GPU from the well-and-truly last generation of GPUs. As a very general rule of thumb, to get a good match your GPU will end up costing about 50% more than your CPU. eg. an i5-4690 is $215, and that matches very well with a GTX 970 which is $330. By 'matches very well' I mean that they'll bottleneck at around the same time. If you want to go for a pre-built, choose a builder that lets you customize your build. You can then pick a system with a CPU that suits your budget and change the inevitably s**t GPU to something more appropriate.
Please take a look here tell me whats the best option for me http://www.ebay.com/usr/hardwarecenter24
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:08:00 -
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Something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/mtZ8TW
Their price did not account for the price of the SSD so add a bit there and if you really are intent on spendg your full budget just toss in a second 980 ti and SLI them. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
470
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:26:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:No listings on that user? EDIT: Didn't click on the user whoops. I'd be wary of those bundles, none of them seem to include a PSU and a lot of them don't even have a GPU. The prices seem a little high too. Cpl Foster USMC wrote:i'm in the same frame of mind, about to buy a gaming PC...but i'm picking from this list for anything under $1000 US...
once again, any advice from the PC Master Race...? There aren't many great options on that list but this is the best of the bunch (that's not saying much). Unfortunately with the pre-built market, most builders go balls-to-the-wall with the CPU (because it's the thing the most non PC people recognize) and then skimp out on the rest. The i7-4790 is a top tier CPU from the (only very recently) last generation of CPUs, but the GTX 760 is a low-mid tier GPU from the well-and-truly last generation of GPUs. As a very general rule of thumb, to get a good match your GPU will end up costing about 50% more than your CPU. eg. an i5-4690 is $215, and that matches very well with a GTX 970 which is $330. By 'matches very well' I mean that they'll bottleneck at around the same time. If you want to go for a pre-built, choose a builder that lets you customize your build. You can then pick a system with a CPU that suits your budget and change the inevitably s**t GPU to something more appropriate. Please take a look here tell me whats the best option for me http://www.ebay.com/usr/hardwarecenter24
You have a very large budget and will be able to do quite well with it, but not from the supplier - they are overpriced. A few of us on the discord are going to work out a list of good pre-built systems from different parts of the world and for different budgets so we'll make a post in GD when we've got something.
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:35:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:No listings on that user? EDIT: Didn't click on the user whoops. I'd be wary of those bundles, none of them seem to include a PSU and a lot of them don't even have a GPU. The prices seem a little high too. Cpl Foster USMC wrote:i'm in the same frame of mind, about to buy a gaming PC...but i'm picking from this list for anything under $1000 US...
once again, any advice from the PC Master Race...? There aren't many great options on that list but this is the best of the bunch (that's not saying much). Unfortunately with the pre-built market, most builders go balls-to-the-wall with the CPU (because it's the thing the most non PC people recognize) and then skimp out on the rest. The i7-4790 is a top tier CPU from the (only very recently) last generation of CPUs, but the GTX 760 is a low-mid tier GPU from the well-and-truly last generation of GPUs. As a very general rule of thumb, to get a good match your GPU will end up costing about 50% more than your CPU. eg. an i5-4690 is $215, and that matches very well with a GTX 970 which is $330. By 'matches very well' I mean that they'll bottleneck at around the same time. If you want to go for a pre-built, choose a builder that lets you customize your build. You can then pick a system with a CPU that suits your budget and change the inevitably s**t GPU to something more appropriate. Please take a look here tell me whats the best option for me http://www.ebay.com/usr/hardwarecenter24 You have a very large budget and will be able to do quite well with it, but not from the supplier - they are overpriced. A few of us on the discord are going to work out a list of good pre-built systems from different parts of the world and for different budgets so we'll make a post in GD when we've got something.
Okay but I live in greece and plugs are different here thats why i wanted to order something from this guy's list on ebay cause hes in germany and they have same plugs + I dealt with him before could you do me a favor? check his list of items for sale and tell me which would be the best choice
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
470
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:55:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Okay but I live in greece and plugs are different here thats why i wanted to order something from this guy's list on ebay cause hes in germany and they have same plugs + I dealt with him before could you do me a favor? check his list of items for sale and tell me which would be the best choice
Alright this one is probably what you're after. It's a very well specced system with everything matching well and good brands all around. The only thing that maybe isn't OK is the PSU (630W Bronze might be pushing it for the i7 + 390x) but as long as you don't go too nuts on the overclock you'll be fine.
I went a fair bit under your budget because you'll want to get a 4K monitor, a good mechanical keyboard and a mouse, and some nice headphones and a mic + shipping for everything.
I don't know enough about 4K monitors to give good advice but reviews are easy to find.
Kinda the same with mechanical keyboards except I've used some Duckey ones and they've been good.
I really like my Logitech G500 mouse but a mouse is a very personal decision.
With your budget try to avoid 'gaming' headsets, get a good pair of headphones (there's some very nice ones by Audio Technica) and a separate mic. Again reviews are your friend.
Hope this helped, you're going to have a beast of a machine!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.02.06 02:55:00 -
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my PC costed overall around that price, but I wasn't focusing on gaming alone. If you want it just for gaming that price should be more than enough
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:08:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:Okay but I live in greece and plugs are different here thats why i wanted to order something from this guy's list on ebay cause hes in germany and they have same plugs + I dealt with him before could you do me a favor? check his list of items for sale and tell me which would be the best choice
Alright this one is probably what you're after. It's a very well specced system with everything matching well and good brands all around. The only thing that maybe isn't OK is the PSU (630W Bronze might be pushing it for the i7 + 390x) but as long as you don't go too nuts on the overclock you'll be fine. I went a fair bit under your budget because you'll want to get a 4K monitor, a good mechanical keyboard and a mouse, and some nice headphones and a mic + shipping for everything. I don't know enough about 4K monitors to give good advice but reviews are easy to find. Kinda the same with mechanical keyboards except I've used some Duckey ones and they've been good. I really like my Logitech G500 mouse but a mouse is a very personal decision. With your budget try to avoid 'gaming' headsets, get a good pair of headphones (there's some very nice ones by Audio Technica) and a separate mic. Again reviews are your friend. Hope this helped, you're going to have a beast of a machine! EDIT: An alternative to a 4K monitor would be a 144Hz monitor. It just depends if you like super high resolution or super fast refresh rate.
Okay thank you very much, but I want to spend all my budget just for a very good tower I already have 4k monitor very good keyboard + mouse and headset what do you think about this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gamer-PC-Intel-i7-6700K-4x4-20Ghz-16GB-PC3000-Nvidia-GTX980Ti-6GB-ASUS-STRIX-SSD-/381413482468?hash=item58ce03dfe4:g:-s8AAOSwsB9WAkQL
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:09:00 -
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or please check his list again and let me know if you have the time which should be the best option and again I want to spend all budget
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
544
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:09:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:Okay but I live in greece and plugs are different here thats why i wanted to order something from this guy's list on ebay cause hes in germany and they have same plugs + I dealt with him before could you do me a favor? check his list of items for sale and tell me which would be the best choice
Alright this one is probably what you're after. It's a very well specced system with everything matching well and good brands all around. The only thing that maybe isn't OK is the PSU (630W Bronze might be pushing it for the i7 + 390x) but as long as you don't go too nuts on the overclock you'll be fine. I went a fair bit under your budget because you'll want to get a 4K monitor, a good mechanical keyboard and a mouse, and some nice headphones and a mic + shipping for everything. I don't know enough about 4K monitors to give good advice but reviews are easy to find. Kinda the same with mechanical keyboards except I've used some Duckey ones and they've been good. I really like my Logitech G500 mouse but a mouse is a very personal decision. With your budget try to avoid 'gaming' headsets, get a good pair of headphones (there's some very nice ones by Audio Technica) and a separate mic. Again reviews are your friend. Hope this helped, you're going to have a beast of a machine!
A 630W bronze CPU is REALLY pushing it for 4790K + 390x. I definitely wouldn't advise it.
Don't get a 4K monitor for a 2K EUR build, I would suggest a 1440p 144Hz (1ms GTG) monitor at that price range. 4K looks nice, but your framerates won't bet that great (30 fps max) with a single 390x. If you're planning to be playing shooters, a 144Hz monitor will be much more beneficial for something fast paced like a FPS.
If you pass on a pre-built, all you have to do for your region is make sure you get a 240V power supply. From there, just be sure you have the proper adapter for your region's outlets. For a build in your price range, I wouldn't get anything less than an 750-800W Gold-rated PSU.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, a 4790K is completely overpriced for a rig that will only be used for gaming. A high-end i5 is recommended for anyone that isn't just building something for the sake of spending a bunch of money. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
472
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:33:00 -
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Ah OK I just assumed you were starting from scratch. As a system, that's great... but for the price, not so much.
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/xLVN3C
That set of parts costs pretty much the same but it has:
- an extra GPU
- an extra 1TB of storage
- a much better PSU
- a better motherboard
So you can see how the system you linked is very bad value, as are all of the top-end systems on that ebay.
If you are happy to pay a 500 euro premium to go with that seller, then go for it.
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 03:41:00 -
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I see hmm but I just want to buy a system and plug it in and play, now let me ask you this if you can find a website that takes paypal as payment and build a gaming pc with my budget money + shipping included and make sure they deliver to greece I will pay you 100$ in your paypal for helping me! :D
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
472
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:08:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:I see hmm but I just want to buy a system and plug it in and play, now let me ask you this if you can find a website that takes paypal as payment and build a gaming pc with my budget money + shipping included and make sure they deliver to greece I will pay you 100$ in your paypal for helping me! :D
lol I'm not gonna take your money but I'll tell you to keep your eyes peeled on the forums as we'll have a PC buying guide up SoonGäó
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
545
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:13:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Ah OK I just assumed you were starting from scratch. As a system, that's great... but for the price, not so much. http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/xLVN3CThat set of parts costs pretty much the same but it has: - an extra GPU- an extra 1TB of storage - a much better PSU - a better motherboard So you can see how the system you linked is very bad value, as are all of the top-end systems on that ebay. If you are happy to pay a 500 euro premium to go with that seller, then go for it.
This is a very good build for the price. Although, did OP's budget account for a monitor?
If the budget didn't include a monitor, get what Shaun suggested. If the budged did include a monitor, I made some adjustments here that include a 1440p 144Hz monitor for ~70 EUR over budget. A bit more than the requested price, but I'm using the exact monitor right now and it is well worth the price. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
472
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:15:00 -
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OP already has a 4K, keyboard, mouse, headphones etc.
Please do have another go with that in mind... Always interested to see what others come up with. (plus it's a nice budget to play with :P)
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
545
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:25:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:OP already has a 4K, keyboard, mouse, headphones etc.
Please do have another go with that in mind... Always interested to see what others come up with. (plus it's a nice budget to play with :P)
Oh, I didn't see that. In that case, I'd say your suggestion is perfect for a 4K build.
Just a caveat I thought of while looking at parts. If OP isn't in a huge hurry to get his PC, it might be a good idea to wait until later this year for the next generation of GPUs. AMD will almost certainly be releasing their newest line this year, and nVidia is very likely to, as well. It is almost always better to wait on a new line of GPUs unless you are working with an extremely tight budget. Every line usually has offerings for all price points, and usually aren't much of a price increase compared to their last-generation counterparts.
AMD's Zen line is also on the horizon, but even as much of a Team Red fanboy as I am, it's risky to bet on going all-in on it. Still a consideration, though. |
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2016.02.06 06:50:00 -
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Why in the world does everyone think you need an i7 to game with? Do you guys render 3d video or edit video. Do you use the latest auto cad? For **** sake do some research before you spend that kinda money on a PC you don't need to just game on. Look at some bench test out there, and we might be surprised how far a skylake i5 or even a i3 will go when over clocked. But if you want to have a hard on for most expensive rig out there then go for it.
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DIinkelFritz
The Eternal Noxium Imperium
32
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Posted - 2016.02.06 07:07:00 -
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Honestly, if there are any IT people on this forum, it would be a good idea to leave your name and contact info. Pre-build the computers for people and sell them. Just a thought...
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
571
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Posted - 2016.02.06 07:36:00 -
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DIinkelFritz wrote:Honestly, if there are any IT people on this forum, it would be a good idea to leave your name and contact info. Pre-build the computers for people and sell them. Just a thought...
There are already tons of options for that out there.
http://www.digitalstorm.com/ is my personal favorite but there are many options out there. |
jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 15:12:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Why in the world does everyone think you need an i7 to game with? Do you guys render 3d video or edit video. Do you use the latest auto cad? For **** sake do some research before you spend that kinda money on a PC you don't need to just game on. Look at some bench test out there, and we might be surprised how far a skylake i5 or even a i3 will go when over clocked. But if you want to have a hard on for most expensive rig out there then go for it.
I never said I need an i7 but why not buy the best hardware that equals with my budget? I want to buy a pc with GTX 980 TI I prefer this video card it has some awesome power and I don't want to upgrade my pc 2-3 years after so I prefer to spend all money to get something good please any suggestions?
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 18:04:00 -
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Guys I'm between these 2 gaming PC which one you think is better and why?
#1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361467819942?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D361467819942%26_rdc%3D1
and #2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141774796123?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D141774796123%26_rdc%3D1
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.06 20:27:00 -
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Any ideas? is any of these 2 worth buying?
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James-5955
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2016.02.06 21:17:00 -
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In my honest opinion I would say build your own. It seems to be a daunting task to some people so they spend the extra money to not do it, but it's really simple and there's a lot of videos that will show you how to pick your parts and how to put it together and get your OS running and all that good stuff. I built my first about 3 years ago and it exactly meets The Divisions recommended settings. It only cost me $1200 and afternoon & evening of watching vids and putting it together.
I feel like it's better to save the money, build it myself and splurge w/ the money I saved on getting better parts.
I understand that some people don't want to spend the time to do it though so to each his own, just my opinion. |
lateriss
ObscuriLateris
65
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Posted - 2016.02.06 22:50:00 -
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If you need a PC "now" and you are looking to save money on a video card I suggest the Nvidia 960. The next step up is the 970 which I use and I love but is more expensive. My son uses the 960 which works fine for all his games which consist of a massive Steam Library along with Titan-fall and Star Wars Battlefront. Its a great card. The 980 is more expensive with maybe a 10%-20% increase over the 970. Every PC gamer will debate this. You coudl also wait for the next big holiday sales.
I use Nvidia because of the stability of the drivers which are highly important on a PC and part of life as a PC gamer. I use an i7 because I play with the UR4 because I like to tinker and I like high end graphics and need the power. My rig is all set for VR.
Newegg.com is a great place for pricing in North America. In all reality for a great PC your looking at 1k. I suggest a good guild or a good online community to help which has already been suggested/. I would also suggest Windows 10 and 16gbs of memory. I personally like Asrock mother boards, i7 CPU, 16gbs of gskill memory, Nvidia video cards. one SSD drive for the system then a 7200 1tb drive for data, corsair power supply, and a cooler master ATX case.
I would start here and ask questions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/
http://www.tomshardware.com/
If you are looking to join Eve Online I would reach out to Eve University http://www.eveuniversity.org/
As a new PC gamer I suggest getting into Steam.
http://store.steampowered.com/
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
24
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:13:00 -
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Ok, just to make things clear, a i3 6100 with a gtx 750ti is the equivalent of a ps4, i have this system as a budget gaming pc, if you want proof then youtube it in videos comparing it side by side with ps4 in cross platform games like witcher 3, battlefield, assasins creed, fallout 4 etc. Anything above this system will be more than enough for any game in full 1080p which is ps4's highest possible resolution. For 4k you will need an i5 such as i5 6500 skylake with a gtx 970 at least for decent 4k framerate, but 4k is complete overkill, 1440p is more than enough and alot sharper than 1080p, a i5 with a gtx 970 will give good 1440p gameplay, however even 1440p can be considered too much when 1080p is brilliant and the most common among pc gamers right now, not to mention it is what current console players are gaming at. As for ram get 8gb which is the gaming sweet spot, make sure it is a set of two 4gb sticks in dual channel, the power supply needs to be a trusted brand and 500w WILL be enough with a Intel cpu and Nividea Graphics card, only AMD needs more as their power output is always higher and less efficient. Storage can be as much as you want, a nice option is to have a SSD as a boot drive to store your windows operating system and a second HDD with 1TB of space or more if you desire. I will say it is far better and cheaper to buy the parts and build it yourself, it is as easy as putting lego together and there are plenty of youtube videos to show you how to do it. A 7 year old can do it. I use pc part picker to get a build together, best thing out there if you build it yourself. Otherwise use pc specialist, they will build it for you. Hell, i would build it for you if i lived near you bro :)
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas
The-Office
2
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:20:00 -
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I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think.
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
24
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:25:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think.
For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.07 00:23:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think. For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg.
Okay now what about this?
https://www.caseking.de/en/king-mod-burning-sky-system-i7-6700k-4-5-ghz-gtx-980-ti-sipc-126.html#t=i4
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.02.07 05:05:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think.
Newegg I'd awesome not only for their price but also for their stance on patent trolls. They don't settle with trolls...ever. |
Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
545
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Posted - 2016.02.07 05:47:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Why in the world does everyone think you need an i7 to game with? Do you guys render 3d video or edit video. Do you use the latest auto cad? For **** sake do some research before you spend that kinda money on a PC you don't need to just game on. Look at some bench test out there, and we might be surprised how far a skylake i5 or even a i3 will go when over clocked. But if you want to have a hard on for most expensive rig out there then go for it.
With OP's budget, an i7 would probably be a better choice.
We don't know the specs of the upcoming game, so it's better to be safe with something that can handle a CPU-heavy game. True, an i7 isn't absolutely necessary, but it's a good idea if you have a 2K EUR budget.
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Seriously, jNs, get the build that Shaun Iwairo suggested. Building a PC is very easy, and not nearly as daunting as it seems. It can be done in an afternoon if you read the manuals carefully and find a decent tutorial. The only real rule is to not shove anything where it doesn't look like it's supposed to go. |
Psycho999
Elysium's Electorate
16
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Check out Austin Evans on YouTube hello has some great builds under budget  |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 12:57:00 -
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An i5 is all you will EVER need for gaming, i will laugh at anyone who suggests you may need an i7, complete bs. However if you have the cash, might aswell get an i7 but it will still be for the sake of it. The video card is the most important, even in cpu intensive games the gpu still does most of the work, as long as you have an i5 cpu, your golden.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:02:00 -
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If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:14:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think. For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg. Okay now what about this? https://www.caseking.de/en/king-mod-burning-sky-system-i7-6700k-4-5-ghz-gtx-980-ti-sipc-126.html#t=i4
Complete overkill but yea you got the cash so go for it, the thing is a beast. However it looks like it only has a SSD and not a second HDD for mass storage, so you only have 250gb of space, but you can always put in a 1TB 7200rpm HDD yourself, Western Digital is my choice for HDD, Samsung for SSD.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:21:00 -
[39] - Quote
If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought. |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:32:00 -
[40] - Quote
Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you.
For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:36:00 -
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That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there.
Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:38:00 -
[42] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti.
At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there.
Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something.
I live in Greece please do me this favor before i make a stupid decision.
I'm looking at this right now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-Gamer-PC-Intel-I7-5820K-6x-3-6-Ghz-Geforce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-16GB-DDR4-Ram-/351425235236?hash=item51d2938924:g:xcAAAOSwZd1Ve-AJ
What you think?
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:27:00 -
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I'm just going to say for 2000 Euros you should be looking at an absolute beast of a build regardless if you build it your self from scratch or have it build professionally.
I'm looking to spend -ú1500 give or take on a 4k build with a 4k screen and I believe I can get everything I want for that price, like I said give or take a little. |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
27
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
Complete beast, the best you can get right now pretty much, can't go wrong
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:31:00 -
[46] - Quote
By the way guys I will turn on my ps3 right now and login to Dust 514,
Please join this channel so we can talk over microphone
Channel -> PCBUILD
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:32:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought.
Yes seriously prices change so often I can't echo this sentiment enough. Do a little looking into things and have a little patience but that being said dont wait forever as you could always be chasing some new thing, waiting for it to be reduced. |
DeathwindRising
Second-Nature
Shadow of Dust
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:33:00 -
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for the record. most of us members of the "PC Master Race" built our computers. If you buy one youll pay more for less than what you could get if you built it from scratch.
i built mine almost 4 tears ago and its still better than anything on the market. I did it for $1,600 US
anyone could spend $1000 US and get something that would last them at least the next 5 years before wanting to upgrade the graphics or cpu.
it is in my experience, that you should build it and not pay for someone else to do it. |
jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
Please join this in Dust 514 so we could talk over mic if you have the time.
Channel -> PCBUILD
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:53:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought. Yes seriously prices change so often I can't echo this sentiment enough. Do a little looking into things and have a little patience but that being said dont wait forever as you could always be chasing some new thing, waiting for it to be reduced.
Lol, 10 years later... "Should I... But I could just wait a little longer for this..." Then you build it just in time to hear about the cancellation of Phoenix-Legion-514. |
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:58:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k.
I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:00:00 -
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Beastly rig.
Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before.
Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k. I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS.
Do you mind joining this channel to help a fella out a bit?
Channel -> PCBUILD
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:02:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k. I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS. Do you mind joining this channel to help a fella out a bit? Channel -> PCBUILD
I don't play DUST anymore, don't even have my PS3 connected.
If he wants help, he's welcome to join this dedicated channel over on the DUST discord: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7ZA3YAY
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
547
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line.
"Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well.
Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K. |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
27
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:44:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K.
Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
547
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Posted - 2016.02.07 20:16:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K. Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc.
I just took a second look at the Skylake i5s, and you are probably right. I thought they were 2-core/4-thread processors (hyperthreaded like the 4/8 i7 Skylake), but it looks like I was wrong there, they're 4-core/4-thread. So, in that case, I don't really see any reason to get an i7 Skylake for gaming. Also, I've been looking at the prices in EUR for so long in this thread, I completely forgot the i7-6700K is $400 USD. That is pretty outrageous, I remembered it being around $325-350, maybe it was just on sale when I last looked.
As for multi-core support for gaming, 2 core processors aren't much of a liability right now, but I'm wary of betting it will be the same in as little as two years. There are already games out there taking decent advantage of multiple threads, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility someone might take a shot at actually heavily utilizing 2+ parallel threads in a couple years. If that is the case, dual core processors (even with 4 threads) will start to see some performance loss. Hyperthreading is a really nice solution for extending the threading capability of a single core, but logical gymnastics will still lag behind having two full physical cores. |
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