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Danja Dom wrote:

Shutter Fly wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

jNs Vit4l wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there.

Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something.

I live in Greece please do me this favor before i make a stupid decision.

I'm looking at this right now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-Gamer-PC-Intel-I7-5820K-6x-3-6-Ghz-Geforce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-16GB-DDR4-Ram-/351425235236?hash=item51d2938924:g:xcAAAOSwZd1Ve-AJ

What you think?

Beastly rig.

Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before.
Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line.

"Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well.

Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K.

Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc.


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Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 544	Posted - 2016.02.06 03:09:00 - [1] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: jNs Vit4l wrote: Okay but I live in greece and plugs are different here thats why i wanted to order something from this guy's list on ebay cause hes in germany and they have same plugs + I dealt with him before could you do me a favor? check his list of items for sale and tell me which would be the best choice Alright this one is probably what you're after. It's a very well specced system with everything matching well and good brands all around. The only thing that maybe isn't OK is the PSU (630W Bronze might be pushing it for the i7 + 390x) but as long as you don't go too nuts on the overclock you'll be fine. I went a fair bit under your budget because you'll want to get a 4K monitor, a good mechanical keyboard and a mouse, and some nice headphones and a mic + shipping for everything. I don't know enough about 4K monitors to give good advice but reviews are easy to find. Kinda the same with mechanical keyboards except I've used some Duckey ones and they've been good. I really like my Logitech G500 mouse but a mouse is a very personal decision. With your budget try to avoid 'gaming' headsets, get a good pair of headphones (there's some very nice ones by Audio Technica) and a separate mic. Again reviews are your friend. Hope this helped, you're going to have a beast of a machine! A 630W bronze CPU is REALLY pushing it for 4790K + 390x. I definitely wouldn't advise it. Don't get a 4K monitor for a 2K EUR build, I would suggest a 1440p 144Hz (1ms GTG) monitor at that price range. 4K looks nice, but your framerates won't bet that great (30 fps max) with a single 390x. If you're planning to be playing shooters, a 144Hz monitor will be much more beneficial for something fast paced like a FPS. If you pass on a pre-built, all you have to do for your region is make sure you get a 240V power supply. From there, just be sure you have the proper adapter for your region's outlets. For a build in your price range, I wouldn't get anything less than an 750-800W Gold-rated PSU. EDIT: Forgot to mention, a 4790K is completely overpriced for a rig that will only be used for gaming. A high-end i5 is recommended for anyone that isn't just building something for the sake of spending a bunch of money.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 545	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:13:00 - [2] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: jNs Vit4l wrote: Okay thank you very much, but I want to spend all my budget just for a very good tower I already have 4k monitor very good keyboard + mouse and headset what do you think about this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gamer-PC-Intel-i7-6700K-4x4-20Ghz-16GB-PC3000-Nvidia-GTX980Ti-6GB-ASUS-STRIX-SSD-/381413482468?hash=item58ce03dfe4:g:-s8AAOSwsB9WAkQL Ah OK I just assumed you were starting from scratch. As a system, that's great... but for the price, not so much. http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/xLVN3C That set of parts costs pretty much the same but it has: - an extra GPU - an extra 1TB of storage - a much better PSU - a better motherboard So you can see how the system you linked is very bad value, as are all of the top-end systems on that ebay. If you are happy to pay a 500 euro premium to go with that seller, then go for it. This is a very good build for the price. Although, did OP's budget account for a monitor? If the budget didn't include a monitor, get what Shaun suggested. If the budged did include a monitor, I made some adjustments here that include a 1440p 144Hz monitor for ~70 EUR over budget. A bit more than the requested price, but I'm using the exact monitor right now and it is well worth the price.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 545	Posted - 2016.02.06 04:25:00 - [3] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: OP already has a 4K, keyboard, mouse, headphones etc. Please do have another go with that in mind... Always interested to see what others come up with. (plus it's a nice budget to play with :P) Oh, I didn't see that. In that case, I'd say your suggestion is perfect for a 4K build. Just a caveat I thought of while looking at parts. If OP isn't in a huge hurry to get his PC, it might be a good idea to wait until later this year for the next generation of GPUs. AMD will almost certainly be releasing their newest line this year, and nVidia is very likely to, as well. It is almost always better to wait on a new line of GPUs unless you are working with an extremely tight budget. Every line usually has offerings for all price points, and usually aren't much of a price increase compared to their last-generation counterparts. AMD's Zen line is also on the horizon, but even as much of a Team Red fanboy as I am, it's risky to bet on going all-in on it. Still a consideration, though.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 545	Posted - 2016.02.07 05:47:00 - [4] - Quote lamo guys wrote: Why in the world does everyone think you need an i7 to game with? Do you guys render 3d video or edit video. Do you use the latest auto cad? For **** sake do some research before you spend that kinda money on a PC you don't need to just game on. Look at some bench test out there, and we might be surprised how far a skylake i5 or even a i3 will go when over clocked. But if you want to have a hard on for most expensive rig out there then go for it. With OP's budget, an i7 would probably be a better choice. We don't know the specs of the upcoming game, so it's better to be safe with something that can handle a CPU-heavy game. True, an i7 isn't absolutely necessary, but it's a good idea if you have a 2K EUR budget. --- Seriously, jNs, get the build that Shaun Iwairo suggested. Building a PC is very easy, and not nearly as daunting as it seems. It can be done in an afternoon if you read the manuals carefully and find a decent tutorial. The only real rule is to not shove anything where it doesn't look like it's supposed to go.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 547	Posted - 2016.02.07 19:07:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: jNs Vit4l wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there. Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something. I live in Greece please do me this favor before i make a stupid decision. I'm looking at this right now http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-Gamer-PC-Intel-I7-5820K-6x-3-6-Ghz-Geforce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-16GB-DDR4-Ram-/351425235236?hash=item51d2938924:g:xcAAAOSwZd1Ve-AJ What you think? Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. RUST415 547	Posted - 2016.02.07 20:16:00 - [6] - Quote Danja Dom wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: Cat Merc wrote: jNs Vit4l wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there. Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something. I live in Greece please do me this favor before i make a stupid decision. I'm looking at this right now http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-Gamer-PC-Intel-I7-5820K-6x-3-6-Ghz-Geforce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-16GB-DDR4-Ram-/351425235236?hash=item51d2938924:g:xcAAAOSwZd1Ve-AJ What you think? Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K. Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc. I just took a second look at the Skylake i5s, and you are probably right. I thought they were 2-core/4-thread processors (hyperthreaded like the 4/8 i7 Skylake), but it looks like I was wrong there, they're 4-core/4-thread. So, in that case, I don't really see any reason to get an i7 Skylake for gaming. Also, I've been looking at the prices in EUR for so long in this thread, I completely forgot the i7-6700K is $400 USD. That is pretty outrageous, I remembered it being around $325-350, maybe it was just on sale when I last looked. As for multi-core support for gaming, 2 core processors aren't much of a liability right now, but I'm wary of betting it will be the same in as little as two years. There are already games out there taking decent advantage of multiple threads, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility someone might take a shot at actually heavily utilizing 2+ parallel threads in a couple years. If that is the case, dual core processors (even with 4 threads) will start to see some performance loss. Hyperthreading is a really nice solution for extending the threading capability of a single core, but logical gymnastics will still lag behind having two full physical cores.