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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:25:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think.
For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
135
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Posted - 2016.02.07 00:23:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think. For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg.
Okay now what about this?
https://www.caseking.de/en/king-mod-burning-sky-system-i7-6700k-4-5-ghz-gtx-980-ti-sipc-126.html#t=i4
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.02.07 05:05:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think.
Newegg I'd awesome not only for their price but also for their stance on patent trolls. They don't settle with trolls...ever. |
Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2016.02.07 05:47:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Why in the world does everyone think you need an i7 to game with? Do you guys render 3d video or edit video. Do you use the latest auto cad? For **** sake do some research before you spend that kinda money on a PC you don't need to just game on. Look at some bench test out there, and we might be surprised how far a skylake i5 or even a i3 will go when over clocked. But if you want to have a hard on for most expensive rig out there then go for it.
With OP's budget, an i7 would probably be a better choice.
We don't know the specs of the upcoming game, so it's better to be safe with something that can handle a CPU-heavy game. True, an i7 isn't absolutely necessary, but it's a good idea if you have a 2K EUR budget.
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Seriously, jNs, get the build that Shaun Iwairo suggested. Building a PC is very easy, and not nearly as daunting as it seems. It can be done in an afternoon if you read the manuals carefully and find a decent tutorial. The only real rule is to not shove anything where it doesn't look like it's supposed to go. |
Psycho999
Elysium's Electorate
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Posted - 2016.02.07 06:03:00 -
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Check out Austin Evans on YouTube hello has some great builds under budget  |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.02.07 12:57:00 -
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An i5 is all you will EVER need for gaming, i will laugh at anyone who suggests you may need an i7, complete bs. However if you have the cash, might aswell get an i7 but it will still be for the sake of it. The video card is the most important, even in cpu intensive games the gpu still does most of the work, as long as you have an i5 cpu, your golden.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:02:00 -
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If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:14:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I'm going to be using this website newegg.com to pick the parts needed for me to build a gaming PC. A friend of mine used this site a few years back to build an awesome gaming PC for Eve and he only spent around 700 to 800 bucks I think. For eve, you don't have to spend even that much lol. Yea newegg is good, pc part picker has links to the best trusted sites, one of them being Newegg. Okay now what about this? https://www.caseking.de/en/king-mod-burning-sky-system-i7-6700k-4-5-ghz-gtx-980-ti-sipc-126.html#t=i4
Complete overkill but yea you got the cash so go for it, the thing is a beast. However it looks like it only has a SSD and not a second HDD for mass storage, so you only have 250gb of space, but you can always put in a 1TB 7200rpm HDD yourself, Western Digital is my choice for HDD, Samsung for SSD.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:21:00 -
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If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought. |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:32:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you.
For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:36:00 -
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That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there.
Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
25
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Posted - 2016.02.07 16:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti.
At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k.
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:That's a very high budget for a build. That's absolute consumer tier top end right there.
Where do you live? Maybe I can find prices there and build you something.
I live in Greece please do me this favor before i make a stupid decision.
I'm looking at this right now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-Gamer-PC-Intel-I7-5820K-6x-3-6-Ghz-Geforce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-16GB-DDR4-Ram-/351425235236?hash=item51d2938924:g:xcAAAOSwZd1Ve-AJ
What you think?
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:27:00 -
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I'm just going to say for 2000 Euros you should be looking at an absolute beast of a build regardless if you build it your self from scratch or have it build professionally.
I'm looking to spend -ú1500 give or take on a 4k build with a 4k screen and I believe I can get everything I want for that price, like I said give or take a little. |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
27
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:30:00 -
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Complete beast, the best you can get right now pretty much, can't go wrong
"Rules were made to be broken"
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:31:00 -
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By the way guys I will turn on my ps3 right now and login to Dust 514,
Please join this channel so we can talk over microphone
Channel -> PCBUILD
Mess with the best... Die like the rest...
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:32:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought.
Yes seriously prices change so often I can't echo this sentiment enough. Do a little looking into things and have a little patience but that being said dont wait forever as you could always be chasing some new thing, waiting for it to be reduced. |
DeathwindRising
Second-Nature
Shadow of Dust
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:33:00 -
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for the record. most of us members of the "PC Master Race" built our computers. If you buy one youll pay more for less than what you could get if you built it from scratch.
i built mine almost 4 tears ago and its still better than anything on the market. I did it for $1,600 US
anyone could spend $1000 US and get something that would last them at least the next 5 years before wanting to upgrade the graphics or cpu.
it is in my experience, that you should build it and not pay for someone else to do it. |
jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:48:00 -
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Please join this in Dust 514 so we could talk over mic if you have the time.
Channel -> PCBUILD
Mess with the best... Die like the rest...
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:53:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:If you're not planning on playing anything right away, then the best idea would be to leave purchasing parts for a while... Just a thought. Yes seriously prices change so often I can't echo this sentiment enough. Do a little looking into things and have a little patience but that being said dont wait forever as you could always be chasing some new thing, waiting for it to be reduced.
Lol, 10 years later... "Should I... But I could just wait a little longer for this..." Then you build it just in time to hear about the cancellation of Phoenix-Legion-514. |
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.07 17:58:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k.
I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:00:00 -
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Beastly rig.
Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before.
Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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jNs Vit4l
Th3.Immortals
Shadow of Dust
136
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k. I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS.
Do you mind joining this channel to help a fella out a bit?
Channel -> PCBUILD
Mess with the best... Die like the rest...
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.02.07 18:02:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Danja Dom wrote:If you seriously want 4k, yea you will have to sli or crossfire two gpus. I would say get 2 gtx 970s over r9 390s. But that is personal choice and up to you. For most games, as long as you don't run it at absolute max settings (Instead of Ultra, set it to high), and don't use anti aliasing (which isn't really necessary at that resolution), then you can quite comfortably get 60FPS with GTX 980 Ti. At 1440p yea, 4k is pushing it, i would rather all high to ultra settings at 1440p than a mix of medium and high at 4k. I have a friend running GTA V on high settings on 4k @60FPS. Do you mind joining this channel to help a fella out a bit? Channel -> PCBUILD
I don't play DUST anymore, don't even have my PS3 connected.
If he wants help, he's welcome to join this dedicated channel over on the DUST discord: https://discord.gg/0o2qgQkvz7ZA3YAY
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
547
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line.
"Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well.
Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K. |
Danja Dom
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
27
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:44:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K.
Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RUST415
547
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Posted - 2016.02.07 20:16:00 -
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Danja Dom wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Beastly rig. Only thing I find odd is the CPU cooler, never heard of it before. Otherwise, it's pretty much top of the line. "Top of the line"? That PSU is pretty garbage, especially for a rig using 5820K and 980Ti. I wouldn't even dream of using anything that isn't at least Gold rated on a rig like that. Thermaltake tends to be a bit sketchy from time-to-time, as well. Also, I can justify getting a Skylake i7 on OP's budget, but no way should he get a 6-core Haswell-E processor. He's literally blowing almost 1/4 of his budget just on the CPU. I do agree with those saying to stick with an i5 on most gaming PCs, I just usually recommend a cheaper i7 for higher budgets due to possible future advancements. Devs are slowly starting to experiment with better parallel processing, so it isn't a bad idea to be prepared when you're likely only spending an extra 50-80 out of 2K. Yup, i5 is a gaming beast, i7 will see no difference in terms of gaming, maybe 5 frames a second more if your lucky, for the price difference it just aint worth getting an i7 over an i5, strictly talking gaming, not video rendering etc.
I just took a second look at the Skylake i5s, and you are probably right. I thought they were 2-core/4-thread processors (hyperthreaded like the 4/8 i7 Skylake), but it looks like I was wrong there, they're 4-core/4-thread. So, in that case, I don't really see any reason to get an i7 Skylake for gaming. Also, I've been looking at the prices in EUR for so long in this thread, I completely forgot the i7-6700K is $400 USD. That is pretty outrageous, I remembered it being around $325-350, maybe it was just on sale when I last looked.
As for multi-core support for gaming, 2 core processors aren't much of a liability right now, but I'm wary of betting it will be the same in as little as two years. There are already games out there taking decent advantage of multiple threads, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility someone might take a shot at actually heavily utilizing 2+ parallel threads in a couple years. If that is the case, dual core processors (even with 4 threads) will start to see some performance loss. Hyperthreading is a really nice solution for extending the threading capability of a single core, but logical gymnastics will still lag behind having two full physical cores. |
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