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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:25:00 -
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OK, so i want to run this by you all see what you think. I've been having some debates with my corp m8's about opening 10 boxes multi times vrs one box at a time, some think its better to just do 1 at a time cuss it don't matter, but I've found opening combo's that have given me multi of the same "Quafe" gear. Let me go over what I have, this is over the span of two toons by the way as one has more luck then the other.
First toon me: Quafe shotgun Quafe scrambler rifle Quafe combat rifle 2x Quafe assault rifle
Sec toon Alt: Quafe laser rifle 2x Quafe mass driver
As for the assault rifles I'm sorry on that one its been to long and i don't remember what i did to get them, the shotgun and scrambler i went crazy one night and found you cant open more then 80 boxes a night in sets of 10 before the system will not let you open any more boxes due to it will cut your link with CCP's database and refuse access to let you open any more set's of 10 around 80 or 90 boxes at once. The Quafe mass driver i had about 26 keys at that time I opened one box once hit x or what ever it is to open another signal box closed out and opened one set of 10 looked around at what i got stopped on the officer mass driver and opened another 10 and boom there it was, sec time i got the other mass driver i did the same thing and got another one! The combat rifle i had 21 keys and just got last night, i opened one box closed out and then opened 10 looked around and stopped on the officer combat rifle then opened another 10 and boom there was the combat rifle, I'm not sure if its the amount or where you stop when looking around the first set of 10, keep in mind I've done this alot with nothing its like it gives it out once or twice a month the way I've been doing this, hope this helps let me know how it goes for you!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:33:00 -
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WHOA! : ( )
That's a great find! So I'll just wait until I have 20 keys, open 10, stop on the officer weapon, and open another 10 to get the quafe variant! Yaaaaay!
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May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
145
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:44:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:WHOA! : ( ) That's a great find! So I'll just wait until I have 20 keys, open 10, stop on the officer weapon, and open another 10 to get the quafe variant! Yaaaaay!
It don't work all the time and i think you need to open one signal box first or in other case two boxes first, I'm still trying to see if the first setup of boxes matter or not, but in my case i've had no luck without open signal box first!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:37:00 -
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better keep this one alive I want all to see it :)
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2016.01.20 17:10:00 -
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RNG???
Regressed to blueberry level =ƒÿ»
#PortPatience514
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2016.01.20 17:11:00 -
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I believe this to be chance and or the RNGod smiling upon you. A few people in the corp know that I only open 1 box at a time because I don't want to wait to get 10 keys. I have quite the collection of Quafe gear, but I will only list what I have gotten this year alone.
The first day / box of the new year - Quafe CR
1 weekish later - Quafe HMG
2 Days ago - Valkear Skin-M
It could be RNGesus has blessed me with luck, but I can assure you that I did not open around 2(X) boxes or open sets of ten between each of the items gotten.
I will not discredit your theory because last year, I did also get a decent amount of quafe gear through opening sets of 10 boxes (Whenever I still did that)
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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General Vahzz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2016.01.20 17:13:00 -
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RNGesus
I am the real deal, and I am indestructible.
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Summa Militum
The Naughty Ninjas
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:03:00 -
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I opened 70 boxes this past weekend (opened them 10 at a time) and received a 'Quafe' Shotgun, a 'Quafe' Scrambler Rifle, and 3 skins.
Thukker is Love, Thukker is Life
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Muhammed Al-Jizonher
Hells Disciple Llc
6
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:31:00 -
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So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. |
Foo Fighting
Project 14
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Posted - 2016.01.20 19:25:00 -
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Humans cannot help but try to see a pattern, even when they know there isn't one - it's random. Also there is no 80 in one night limit either. Sorry to rain on your theories. |
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces
118
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Posted - 2016.01.20 19:49:00 -
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Hi There
Just In Case o.o
Update Of Open 10 And Get A Rare For Sure
(Its Under Caldari Heavy Picture)
"We have also added a little bonus UX, you can now open 10 boxes at the same time and get one guaranteed rare item."
But We Still Need A Definition For "Rare" Item
Good Day People
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
146
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Posted - 2016.01.20 20:06:00 -
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Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky.
Facts are facts, I went months only opening one box a day aka one at a time, with getting nothing but office all the time, and junk as well, so me and my "Neanderthal brain" will keep doing what I'm doing and getting Quafe and you keep doing what your doing, OK sound good, great thanks for the post!
cough cough "hater" cough cough Like I said thanks for post, no need to say any more
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Foo Fighting
Project 14
643
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Posted - 2016.01.20 20:14:00 -
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Sanchez Rivera wrote:Hi There Just In Case o.o Update Of Open 10 And Get A Rare For Sure(Its Under Caldari Heavy Picture) "We have also added a little bonus UX, you can now open 10 boxes at the same time and get one guaranteed rare item." But We Still Need A Definition For "Rare" Item Good Day People
Rare items I believe are: Officer weapons Officer suits Quafe weapon bpo Quafe turret bpc Quafe lav bpo Quafe vehicle bpc Boosters Pirate skins Decriptor keys Warbarge components
Based on openig 10 at once and always having at least something from the above list and sometimes only one of these things. (I've opened enough boxes to own 175 Quafe weapons) |
Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2016.01.20 20:20:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Hi There Just In Case o.o Update Of Open 10 And Get A Rare For Sure(Its Under Caldari Heavy Picture) "We have also added a little bonus UX, you can now open 10 boxes at the same time and get one guaranteed rare item." But We Still Need A Definition For "Rare" Item Good Day People Rare items I believe are: Officer weapons Officer suits Quafe weapon bpo Quafe turret bpc Quafe lav bpo Quafe vehicle bpc Boosters Pirate skins Decriptor keys Warbarge components Based on openig 10 at once and always having at least something from the above list and sometimes only one of these things. (I've opened enough boxes to own 175 Quafe weapons)
Wow, Ok, If You Really Have 175 Quafe BPOs, Than I Believe You o.o
You Are A Quafe God Bro o.o
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2016.01.20 20:58:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:
Based on openig 10 at once and always having at least something from the above list and sometimes only one of these things. (I've opened enough boxes to own 175 Quafe weapons)
You have 175 Quafe BPO weapoins?
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Foo Fighting
Project 14
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Posted - 2016.01.20 21:42:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:
Based on openig 10 at once and always having at least something from the above list and sometimes only one of these things. (I've opened enough boxes to own 175 Quafe weapons)
You have 175 Quafe BPO weapoins? and 7 quafe lavs =ƒÜù |
Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2016.01.20 21:56:00 -
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i had a bit of spare AUR left so tried this out. i had 10 keys and enough AUR to buy another 10. i opened the 10 and highlighted an officer wepaon. hit 'open 10' and bought the next 10, the game glitched saying data unobtainable or something but it still opened the next 10 boxes and lo and behold a quafe mass driver. i don't use MD's but what the hell, its first bpo i've had in months lol
Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
380
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Posted - 2016.01.20 21:59:00 -
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Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky.
Actually If you open 10 at a time you are guaranteed to receive at least one rare item. So, ten at a time is the best way. Often the rare is just an office weapon, but it beats opening up one at a time to receive even more blaster turrets or black prey nova knives over and over and over..... |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
282
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:17:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I opened 70 boxes this past weekend (opened them 10 at a time) and received a 'Quafe' Shotgun, a 'Quafe' Scrambler Rifle, and 3 skins. And you probably would have gotten that same booty by opening that same 70 boxes one at a time. This is supposed to be chance. There's no way that opening 70 boxes at once will increase your chance of getting anything good for any one box you open. The only reason you're more likely to get something good is that you've increased the number of boxes you open in this session by a factor of 70.
I've gotten a few good items as well, but I only ever open one at a time. I tried waiting until I had 10 like someone suggested. Nothing astounding. It's supposed to be chance. If opening multiple boxes at once were to actually increase your chances of getting good gear, that means it's not chance. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
282
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:20:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. Actually If you open 10 at a time you are guaranteed to receive at least one rare item. So, ten at a time is the best way. Often the rare is just an office weapon, but it beats opening up one at a time to receive even more blaster turrets or black prey nova knives over and over and over..... You're not guaranteed anything, because it's chance (unless of course it isn't...) but whatever you get from opening 10 at a time, you will get from opening 10 boxes one at a time. That's the way chance works.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
283
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:22:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:i had a bit of spare AUR left so tried this out. i had 10 keys and enough AUR to buy another 10. i opened the 10 and highlighted an officer wepaon. hit 'open 10' and bought the next 10, the game glitched saying data unobtainable or something but it still opened the next 10 boxes and lo and behold a quafe mass driver. i don't use MD's but what the hell, its first bpo i've had in months lol I've never got a BPO. I've done the open 10 at a time thing a number of times now, and never got a BPO. I think it's more likely that people get good stuff if they BUY AUR to do it. You think CCP hasn't got the means to know that you bought AUR to open more boxes? Think again. They will reward people who spend actual money to do so. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
283
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:29:00 -
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Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. You are absolutely correct, IF AND ONLY IF it's pure chance.
My take on this is that it's actually not pure chance, that CCP records the IDs of people who buy AUR to open multiple boxes. I think that's the reason they have the option to open 10 at a time, so that people will see the benefit of buying AUR to do so, and that they will be rewarded by good gear when they do. For the rest of us, opening one at a time or saving them and opening 10, 20, 30 at a time, we will just keep getting the same reasonably good gear, and otherwise lots of useless junk that we always do.
I've gotten my share of decent gear but no BPOs. It appears to me, reading these threads that people who buy AUR to open boxes are the ones most likely to get BPOs. |
Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
146
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:34:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I opened 70 boxes this past weekend (opened them 10 at a time) and received a 'Quafe' Shotgun, a 'Quafe' Scrambler Rifle, and 3 skins. And you probably would have gotten that same booty by opening that same 70 boxes one at a time. This is supposed to be chance. There's no way that opening 70 boxes at once will increase your chance of getting anything good for any one box you open. The only reason you're more likely to get something good is that you've increased the number of boxes you open in this session by a factor of 70. I've gotten a few good items as well, but I only ever open one at a time. I tried waiting until I had 10 like someone suggested. Nothing astounding. It's supposed to be chance. If opening multiple boxes at once were to actually increase your chances of getting good gear, that means it's not chance.
Well the fact you are opening something at all is a chance in its self, what I've found by my personal experience is you don't get the same thing for opening one at a time, and I hate to think that i had the same line of thinking awhile ago. As I have started a new way of thinking tho, the reward has been worth the simple patience to collect XX amount and find out who wrong I was. Take it for what its worth just trying to help here!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
146
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:44:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. You are absolutely correct, IF AND ONLY IF it's pure chance. My take on this is that it's actually not pure chance, that CCP records the IDs of people who buy AUR to open multiple boxes. I think that's the reason they have the option to open 10 at a time, so that people will see the benefit of buying AUR to do so, and that they will be rewarded by good gear when they do. For the rest of us, opening one at a time or saving them and opening 10, 20, 30 at a time, we will just keep getting the same reasonably good gear, and otherwise lots of useless junk that we always do. I've gotten my share of decent gear but no BPOs. It appears to me, reading these threads that people who buy AUR to open boxes are the ones most likely to get BPOs.
well as I cant say i haven't had a signal toon i have tested this on I have talked to other that have never paid anything that have got BPO's but all i have to go on is their word, if they don't remember paying or something that's on them. But will it hurt you to save up two or 3 sets of say 26 keys mean save up to 26 open one signal one twice or even 3 times then open two sets of 10 right afterwords to find out? Try it out for the next few months, its not like your going anywhere, and at worst case I'm wrong and your out nothing ether way, give it a go.
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
381
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Posted - 2016.01.20 23:38:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. You are absolutely correct, IF AND ONLY IF it's pure chance. My take on this is that it's actually not pure chance, that CCP records the IDs of people who buy AUR to open multiple boxes. I think that's the reason they have the option to open 10 at a time, so that people will see the benefit of buying AUR to do so, and that they will be rewarded by good gear when they do. For the rest of us, opening one at a time or saving them and opening 10, 20, 30 at a time, we will just keep getting the same reasonably good gear, and otherwise lots of useless junk that we always do. I've gotten my share of decent gear but no BPOs. It appears to me, reading these threads that people who buy AUR to open boxes are the ones most likely to get BPOs. well as I cant say i haven't had a signal toon i have tested this on I have talked to other that have never paid anything that have got BPO's but all i have to go on is their word, if they don't remember paying or something that's on them. But will it hurt you to save up two or 3 sets of say 26 keys mean save up to 26 open one signal one twice or even 3 times then open two sets of 10 right afterwords to find out? Try it out for the next few months, its not like your going anywhere, and at worst case I'm wrong and your out nothing ether way, give it a go.
Actually, since I spent money on DUST I have gotten no BPOs..... Seems like all I get now are terrible boxes filled with an assortment of Quafe turrets and advanced Nova Knives. Its been 100s of boxes since I last hit a skin or BPO.
Anyone else notice that the officer gear seems to be less frequent and in smaller quantities of late from boxes. No more 5x of anything. Now its 1 to 3 at a time at most of the officer items. |
Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
146
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Posted - 2016.01.21 16:32:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:. . Actually, since I spent money on DUST I have gotten no BPOs..... Seems like all I get now are terrible boxes filled with an assortment of Quafe turrets and advanced Nova Knives. Its been 100s of boxes since I last hit a skin or BPO. Anyone else notice that the officer gear seems to be less frequent and in smaller quantities of late from boxes. No more 5x of anything. Now its 1 to 3 at a time at most of the officer items.
How are you opening the boxes, one at a time single sets of 10?
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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syzygiet
Second-Nature
51
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Posted - 2016.01.21 18:17:00 -
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if you dig back far enough one of the devs confirmed you have a better chance of rare items from salvage if you open 10 at a time. Not guaranteed but a better chance. |
Maniac Staten
420 SMOKING KNIGHTS Devil's Descendants
1
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Posted - 2016.01.21 19:15:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:jane stalin wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:
Based on openig 10 at once and always having at least something from the above list and sometimes only one of these things. (I've opened enough boxes to own 175 Quafe weapons)
You have 175 Quafe BPO weapoins? and 7 quafe lavs =ƒÜù Can YOU open some 4 ME i suck at getting good stuff never have got a skin or suit....boo hoo 2 me....i have 9000 BOXES by tha way! |
GeorgeN76
Eden Claims Corp
1
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:13:00 -
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I just opened 140 boxes using this method and got no blueprints or skins
Thats really upsetting
Scouts and Swarms
New Edens Pawn Shop
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
146
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:56:00 -
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syzygiet wrote:if you dig back far enough one of the devs confirmed you have a better chance of rare items from salvage if you open 10 at a time. Not guaranteed but a better chance.
right the point of this thread is if it matter of the combo/ways you open the sets of 10 i swear by opening a few single box's first then doing the 10's and that has given me stuff but not sure it opening something first matters at this point but I'll keep doing it anyway
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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