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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:17:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I opened 70 boxes this past weekend (opened them 10 at a time) and received a 'Quafe' Shotgun, a 'Quafe' Scrambler Rifle, and 3 skins.
And you probably would have gotten that same booty by opening that same 70 boxes one at a time. This is supposed to be chance. There's no way that opening 70 boxes at once will increase your chance of getting anything good for any one box you open. The only reason you're more likely to get something good is that you've increased the number of boxes you open in this session by a factor of 70.
I've gotten a few good items as well, but I only ever open one at a time. I tried waiting until I had 10 like someone suggested. Nothing astounding. It's supposed to be chance. If opening multiple boxes at once were to actually increase your chances of getting good gear, that means it's not chance. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:20:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky. Actually If you open 10 at a time you are guaranteed to receive at least one rare item. So, ten at a time is the best way. Often the rare is just an office weapon, but it beats opening up one at a time to receive even more blaster turrets or black prey nova knives over and over and over.....
You're not guaranteed anything, because it's chance (unless of course it isn't...) but whatever you get from opening 10 at a time, you will get from opening 10 boxes one at a time. That's the way chance works.
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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:22:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:i had a bit of spare AUR left so tried this out. i had 10 keys and enough AUR to buy another 10. i opened the 10 and highlighted an officer wepaon. hit 'open 10' and bought the next 10, the game glitched saying data unobtainable or something but it still opened the next 10 boxes and lo and behold a quafe mass driver. i don't use MD's but what the hell, its first bpo i've had in months lol
I've never got a BPO. I've done the open 10 at a time thing a number of times now, and never got a BPO. I think it's more likely that people get good stuff if they BUY AUR to do it. You think CCP hasn't got the means to know that you bought AUR to open more boxes? Think again. They will reward people who spend actual money to do so. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:29:00 -
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Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:So opening 10 boxes gives you a higher probability than opening one?!!!!
WOWWEEE, I wonder if maths has somthing to do with it ?!
Face it, the boxes are random, your tiny Neanderthal brains cant see that when you open 10 you're getting more chances, and when you open 1 you usually only do that 1 for the moment. If you were to open 10 by increments of 1 you'd have the same result. Perhaps the fact that you can get a set of boxes with junk from daily missions plays a role, for instance, you get 7 boxes for a mission, and among those 7 are only 1 bad ass item because you cant give 5/7bad ass items, so opening 10 gives you 7 of those earned from one mission, and 3 from another, allowing for a better chance at the good ****, but because most people open 1 as soon as they get there key, they are getting new boxes before the ability to open them. Perhaps that's why the people who have multiple keys and open them at once get lucky.
You are absolutely correct, IF AND ONLY IF it's pure chance.
My take on this is that it's actually not pure chance, that CCP records the IDs of people who buy AUR to open multiple boxes. I think that's the reason they have the option to open 10 at a time, so that people will see the benefit of buying AUR to do so, and that they will be rewarded by good gear when they do. For the rest of us, opening one at a time or saving them and opening 10, 20, 30 at a time, we will just keep getting the same reasonably good gear, and otherwise lots of useless junk that we always do.
I've gotten my share of decent gear but no BPOs. It appears to me, reading these threads that people who buy AUR to open boxes are the ones most likely to get BPOs. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:28:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I opened 70 boxes this past weekend (opened them 10 at a time) and received a 'Quafe' Shotgun, a 'Quafe' Scrambler Rifle, and 3 skins. And you probably would have gotten that same booty by opening that same 70 boxes one at a time. This is supposed to be chance. There's no way that opening 70 boxes at once will increase your chance of getting anything good for any one box you open. The only reason you're more likely to get something good is that you've increased the number of boxes you open in this session by a factor of 70. I've gotten a few good items as well, but I only ever open one at a time. I tried waiting until I had 10 like someone suggested. Nothing astounding. It's supposed to be chance. If opening multiple boxes at once were to actually increase your chances of getting good gear, that means it's not chance. Well the fact you are opening something at all is a chance in its self, what I've found by my personal experience is you don't get the same thing for opening one at a time, and I hate to think that i had the same line of thinking awhile ago. As I have started a new way of thinking tho, the reward has been worth the simple patience to collect XX amount and find out who wrong I was. Take it for what its worth just trying to help here!
So you're saying, therefore, that it's not chance! But it's supposed to be. So someone's lying are they not? |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:35:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Muhammed Al-Jizonher wrote:. . Actually, since I spent money on DUST I have gotten no BPOs..... Seems like all I get now are terrible boxes filled with an assortment of Quafe turrets and advanced Nova Knives. Its been 100s of boxes since I last hit a skin or BPO. Anyone else notice that the officer gear seems to be less frequent and in smaller quantities of late from boxes. No more 5x of anything. Now its 1 to 3 at a time at most of the officer items. How are you opening the boxes, one at a time single sets of 10?
I'll say it again, for those who still don't get it. This is supposed to be chance. The rules of chance say you don't have any better chance of getting something good from any one box, whether you open boxes one at a time, in sets of 3, 10 at a time, or in sets of 10. You are increasing your chances of getting something good from the boxes you open in any one session if you save them. But you don't increase the chances of getting anything good from any one box.
I'll say this again, too - IF you DO increase your chances of getting something good from any one box by opening them in larger numbers, 10 at a time, for instance, or in sets of 10, then it IS NOT CHANCE!!
For the record, I do not put it past CCP for coding this part of the game in such a way as to change the probability if people open 10 at a time or in sets of 10, but then the statement that this is all pure chance becomes false.
I would like to know who started the story that it was pure chance. It sounds like it's not. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:39:00 -
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Yoda Boss wrote:I think it comes in waves. I heard someone else just got a quafe mass driver and I was like f it. Got 9 keys from missions. Bought 1 and opened 10. Quafe md.
Last bpo was my Valklear Min m skin... 3 months ago.
If it comes in waves, the "waves" are generated by CCP. CCP controls all this, including and not limited to, whether or not it's pure chance as to what you get. If the chance of getting something good FROM ANY ONE BOX is increased by doing anything specific, then it's not chance. |
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