Pretty much what Darth said.

We don't get a summit and tel, you guys as much as we can, as soon as we can. We just haven't been as active in the forums for the last few weeks for a couple of reasons.

Some of us are busy in real life being the main one and CCP being in vacation mode at the moment with the festive period. But there's also not really much more we can add to the discussion until CCP opens the information taps. Once that happens you'll get sick of us posting stuff.

Pretty much what Darth said.

We don't get a summit and tel, you guys as much as we can, as soon as we can. We just haven't been as active in the forums for the last few weeks for a couple of reasons.

Some of us are busy in real life being the main one and CCP being in vacation mode at the moment with the festive period. But there's also not really much more we can add to the discussion until CCP opens the information taps. Once that happens you'll get sick of us posting stuff.

Our job is to communicate the will and desires of the community to CCP, and advise them on how to best serve the people that play this game.

We have done our job hundreds of times over, telling CCP what they did right, and what they are now doing very wrong. We will continue to do that, even though sometimes they just don't want to hear it.

In the end, the job is not always fun or even enjoyable, but please, never doubt that we have done what we were elected to do.

There are fundamental differences between Dust and Eve, most glaringly obvious, some more covert. To compare the two would be a stretch, much less compare the CPM to the CSM because that's just insulting.

Ours is a very small, and still fledgling community, especially compared to a decade long juggernaut like eve. Podcasts, forums, reddit, youtube, voice chat; we've done it all but on a scale that reflects our playerbase.

Your message is a good one, and we appreciate the feedback, but please compare apples to apples and know that we are not the CSM, nor do we want to be.

the institution that has become synonymous with corruption, security breaches and infighting would be the hight of folly.

Not to mention they are still restricted in talking about DUST based on various NDAs and other factors that tie their hands, especially if they wish to avoid any accidental information leaks.

CSM Members are under the same NDA, and manage to post daily about their own thoughts and opinions, as well as ask for clarity around popular player generated ideas and requests. That's not breaking NDA, and a CSM/CPM Member is in no way shape or form discouraged from talking about their own personal gameplay, thoughts, and opinions. The NDA isn't a gag order. It's a limitation on talking about confidential information specifically. Stop using it as a blanket justification for low engagement, please.

I won't belabor the point, but to reiterate: I was comparing apples and apples. CSM Member engagement v CPM Member engagement, with the community, specifically. You point out accurately that there aren't as many broad channels of engagements. Yet you list off the prime examples of channels that do exist. I'm merely pointing out that there's opportunity to engage in a completely non-illicit way that's not being taken advantage of. That's all.

That being said you're welcome to your opinion that a good job is being done. Personally, I don't see it. Maybe that opinion will change over time, but at the moment I just see a stark and unfortunate contrast between CPM and it's ancestral body.

I also am amazed at the platform-self-loathing implied by a complete unwillingness to being compared or contrasted to the EVE CSM, as if the two games weren't irreversibly intertwined at all levels ( Lore, races, basic gameplay concepts, and day to day real granular impact ). Imho DUST should have at least one representative on the CSM to champion inter-game related features, and say what's working and what's not. Vice versa an EVE representative in the CPM to talk about DUST impacts on FW, etc. Perhaps a pipe dream but it seems like a not-unreasonable idea. I can tell you frankly that the vast majority of EVE players have not the first clue of what DUST players actually do, or for example that DUST FW has any direct consequences in the EVE state of FW affairs at all. This is not talked about, discussed, or widely known; even in FW discussions. If there was wider understanding of the impact that the grunts had on the sandbox, it could go a long way towards getting influential entities to try to leverage that. A CSM DUST player talking about these topics is a PR opportunity at the very least.

Who knows if there's opportunity for any of that. I along with everyone else am waiting for some big announcement regarding the future of the platform, and what the future holds for two very good games with two player bases in different states of angst. I personally am hoping there's big things ahead for the next major iteration, because this is a great game that needs to keep getting bigger and stronger.