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Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 114	Posted - 2015.12.24 16:23:00 - [1] - Quote So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of thing to happen! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Daemonn Adima Eternal Beings 721	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:14:00 - [2] - Quote Because bitter vets can scream as loud as wailing babies.
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:28:00 - [3] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! "No proto/officer in pubs"... Okay... so metalock... let's say a metalock of idk 35... I can still use an officer suit or a proto suit along with an officer/proto weapon... along with a few mods just for extra tank... Now let's say a meta lock of 10... I can still use an assault mk.0... Along with a basic weapon... This could work... Or I can just use a basic suit with a proto/officer weapon... Teir lock would be more fitting... Kaltos Darksbane's Bae.
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Corrosive Synergy RUST415 639	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:33:00 - [4] - Quote I'm completely fine with no officer in pubs, but the no proto rule will hopefully have some exceptions. Namely, equipment. Gear isn't equal on the same tier. Can you imagine how low rep tool use would be if you couldn't use the proto variant in pubs? The only time you'd ever use non-proto rep tools is if you're trying to skill up to proto. It's hard enough to get a revive at any point in time, but can you imagine how many people would just say '** it, respawning' because they know there is no chance for them to get the only good revives? Proto and LP variant? Uplinks wouldn't be bothered as much, though, and lol nanohives. Although people would probably be relieved for the lack of proto scanners, and barely anyone bothers with REs higher than standard unless they just really, really, really want you dead. I guess the only real problems would come up for the 'people trying to keep you alive' party, because the 'people that want you dead' party don't really take too much of a hit, and in fact get quite the bonus. But if you've ever played an MMO, you know no one cares about the healer's opinion. What's that? We're being swarmed and we need to focus and be tactical about our maneuvers or we're all going to die? Eh, I'll just run in guns blazing and activate all my abilities at once, the healer's got it. And if I die, he'll deserve the aggro he immediately receives because obviously he sucks. Why the ** didn't you revive me? I'm the tank! I'm the only important member of the team! Blah, blah, blah. The thought that Dust 514 may one day be the game we dreamed it to be. It fills you with Determination!
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:36:00 - [5] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: I'm completely fine with no officer in pubs, but the no proto rule will hopefully have some exceptions. Namely, equipment. Gear isn't equal on the same tier. Can you imagine how low rep tool use would be if you couldn't use the proto variant in pubs? The only time you'd ever use non-proto rep tools is if you're trying to skill up to proto. It's hard enough to get a revive at any point in time, but can you imagine how many people would just say '** it, respawning' because they know there is no chance for them to get the only good revives? Proto and LP variant? Uplinks wouldn't be bothered as much, though, and lol nanohives. Although people would probably be relieved for the lack of proto scanners, and barely anyone bothers with REs higher than standard unless they just really, really, really want you dead. I guess the only real problems would come up for the 'people trying to keep you alive' party, because the 'people that want you dead' party don't really take too much of a hit, and in fact get quite the bonus. But if you've ever played an MMO, you know no one cares about the healer's opinion. What's that? We're being swarmed and we need to focus and be tactical about our maneuvers or we're all going to die? Eh, I'll just run in guns blazing and activate all my abilities at once, the healer's got it. And if I die, he'll deserve the aggro he immediately receives because obviously he sucks. Why the ** didn't you revive me? I'm the tank! I'm the only important member of the team! Blah, blah, blah. Hence, why I said tier lock would be more fitting... Kaltos Darksbane's Bae.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 114	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:36:00 - [6] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! "No proto/officer in pubs"... Okay... so metalock... let's say a metalock of idk 35... I can still use an officer suit or a proto suit along with an officer/proto weapon... along with a few mods just for extra tank... Now let's say a meta lock of 10... I can still use an assault mk.0... Along with a basic weapon... This could work... Or I can just use a basic suit with a proto/officer weapon... Teir lock would be more fitting... why do you think it has to be limited to over all suit meta number, pubs every suit/gun/equipment over XX no go. so you can have meta 35 but the gun that has over meta XX isnt going to fly, so deal! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.12.24 18:01:00 - [7] - Quote Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the **** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 114	Posted - 2015.12.24 19:14:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the **** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Most of them peps I drop with apex, in their proto/officer setup, and locking down the equipment an gear in pubs, is a start! That is the point I'm making! If it don't matter about the metalock out, and support for the new guys, then why do these numbers call you a lair! To those that don't want Metalocks for the new peps! Without something for nobbs, this game will die faster then it already is, or that's maybe why they haven't put something in! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2015.12.24 19:18:00 - [9] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the ** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Most of them peps I drop with apex, in their proto/officer setup, and locking down the equipment an gear in pubs, is a start!** That is the point I'm making! If it don't matter about the metalock out, and support for the new guys, then why do these numbers call you a lair! To those that don't want Metalocks for the new peps! Without something for nobbs, this game will die faster then it already is, or that's maybe why they haven't put something in! Lol... 15 second uplinks for days... Kaltos Darksbane's Bae.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 114	Posted - 2015.12.24 19:24:00 - [10] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the ** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Most of them peps I drop with apex, in their proto/officer setup, and locking down the equipment an gear in pubs, is a start!** That is the point I'm making! If it don't matter about the metalock out, and support for the new guys, then why do these numbers call you a lair! To those that don't want Metalocks for the new peps! Without something for nobbs, this game will die faster then it already is, or that's maybe why they haven't put something in! Lol... 15 second uplinks for days... Its like that now, alot! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!

sizwe sizzle Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 47	Posted - 2015.12.24 19:34:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the **** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Yep Recently reached 100mill skill points divided by 2
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.12.24 21:15:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the **** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Then why not just use the meta lock and be done with it. One less thing to worry about. I think that skill is a large factor, but the compounding advantages increased fitting capacity gives with regards to HP, DPS, EWAR, Speed, BW etc results in an overly large hurdle. If people can be that good in small squads with lower tier gear, then they should be willing to have meta locks and prove it. If no differences are seen, they can remove meta locks with confidence. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Vicious Minotaur 3	Posted - 2015.12.24 21:59:00 - [13] - Quote All this talk of Meta locks versus Tier locks, and I'm over here thinking none of that would even be on the table if CCP bothered to go the tiericide route.... So my question, as rhetorical as it may be, is: why does crap gear even exist in the first place? Meta lock or tier lock, you still have players stuck in crap gear with certain FUN fits almost completely off limits. You cut up the playerbase even further, possibly making matchmaking even worse (How's that possible?!)... Minotaur Master Race Violently penetrating you since ca 84 BCE. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1	Posted - 2015.12.24 22:27:00 - [14] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: I'm completely fine with no officer in pubs, but the no proto rule will hopefully have some exceptions. Namely, equipment. Gear isn't equal on the same tier. Can you imagine how low rep tool use would be if you couldn't use the proto variant in pubs? The only time you'd ever use non-proto rep tools is if you're trying to skill up to proto. It's hard enough to get a revive at any point in time, but can you imagine how many people would just say '** it, respawning' because they know there is no chance for them to get the only good revives? Proto and LP variant? Uplinks wouldn't be bothered as much, though, and lol nanohives. Although people would probably be relieved for the lack of proto scanners, and barely anyone bothers with REs higher than standard unless they just really, really, really want you dead. I guess the only real problems would come up for the 'people trying to keep you alive' party, because the 'people that want you dead' party don't really take too much of a hit, and in fact get quite the bonus. But if you've ever played an MMO, you know no one cares about the healer's opinion. What's that? We're being swarmed and we need to focus and be tactical about our maneuvers or we're all going to die? Eh, I'll just run in guns blazing and activate all my abilities at once, the healer's got it. And if I die, he'll deserve the aggro he immediately receives because obviously he sucks. Why the didn't you revive me? I'm the tank! I'm the only important member of the team! Blah, blah, blah. CCP has very much ignored my protests about carrying more hives to be logistics exclusive,so i can verify this. CCP listens to anyone claiming to be assault to the point of brain damage. Which is really sad when Dust can be so much more. Meta locks and** teir locks were initially thought up by assaults,seeing as damage between teirs of weapons and survival of suits changes minimally. Every other class however would be kicked in the teeth,especially logistics. Going from 1 beam to 2 is an astounding improvement (ADV to PRO repair tools). Being forced to use the 1 beam version wouldn't just hamper supporting ability dramatically,it would cripple earnings too,and for one of the most expensive classes to run (logistics) that's a bad thing. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 681	Posted - 2015.12.25 00:29:00 - [15] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 227	Posted - 2015.12.25 00:42:00 - [16] - Quote Honestly, I mostly just run apex, but if you lockout by meta level in pubs, then what would I do with all of my money. I have little reason for fw, and have no interest in PC. My experimental factory would be pointless, and occasional officer drops and strongbox rewards would be worthless (selling things for money when I have more money than I can spend would be a waste). Proto is not the problem, it's the fact that there is much balancing work to be done, and that you can't matchmake for teamwork that make it difficult for newer players. And small player base, and onoy 2 matchmaking pools. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1	Posted - 2015.12.25 01:26:00 - [17] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 115	Posted - 2015.12.26 22:33:00 - [18] - Quote Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. Forced PC fights if you want to us office/proto I know its so hard to deal with them new players and all with out proto or office cuss you suck so bad with out it, but I mean really, really! Point is game is at that point now due to office stompers and proto stompers in pubs, there needs to be a line your not able to cross, I get you cant stay in the training area all the time but, why make new peps go from easy and fun to crap and no fun for them! If you have the skills to us officer and proto go do factional and keep out of the pubs or not us it, I know its not going to happen so forcing ones hand is needed, to up the over all numbers if we don't it will just be us die hard's left to do a circle jerk by our self's! >no limits = poor turn outs or peps just dropping out of match cuss they know your names! >market for dust as its filled by NPC don't matter! >long-term effect of no limits in pubs = circle jerk of die hard's = death of game >game dies any ways even though die hard's don't want it to counter all you want its needed, and it was needed from day one of release, as the testers know what to train and what was what or at less i did speaking as a closed test, sorry for the circle bit but it was funny It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2015.12.26 23:50:00 - [19] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! "No proto/officer in pubs"... Okay... so metalock... let's say a metalock of idk 35... I can still use an officer suit or a proto suit along with an officer/proto weapon... along with a few mods just for extra tank... Now let's say a meta lock of 10... I can still use an assault mk.0... Along with a basic weapon... This could work... Or I can just use a basic suit with a proto/officer weapon... Teir lock would be more fitting... This is flawed logic.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:07:00 - [20] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the ** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. Most of them peps I drop with apex, in their proto/officer setup, and locking down the equipment an gear in pubs, is a start!** That is the point I'm making! If it don't matter about the metalock out, and support for the new guys, then why do these numbers call you a lair! To those that don't want Metalocks for the new peps! Without something for nobbs, this game will die faster then it already is, or that's maybe why they haven't put something in! Lol... 15 second uplinks for days... Wouldn't be much of change from how it is now.

Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:08:00 - [21] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. Forced PC fights if you want to us office/proto I know its so hard to deal with them new players and all with out proto or office cuss you suck so bad with out it, but I mean really, really! Point is game is at that point now due to office stompers and proto stompers in pubs, there needs to be a line your not able to cross, I get you cant stay in the training area all the time but, why make new peps go from easy and fun to crap and no fun for them! If you have the skills to us officer and proto go do factional and keep out of the pubs or not us it, I know its not going to happen so forcing ones hand is needed, to up the over all numbers if we don't it will just be us die hard's left to do a circle jerk by our self's! >no limits = poor turn outs or peps just dropping out of match cuss they know your names! >market for dust as its filled by NPC don't matter! >long-term effect of no limits in pubs = circle jerk of die hard's = death of game >game dies any ways even though die hard's don't want it to counter all you want limits are needed, and it was needed from day one of release, as the testers know what to train and what was what or at less i did speaking as a closed test, sorry for the circle bit but it was funny >no limits = freedom (simple solution? Remove leader boards,stop being so tryhard no one wants to fight you.) >on ps3 >isk circulation >game dies due to seeming lack of interest from CCP to prolong it,thus long term interest teeters off Listen bro,don't get mad you don't have PRO. And stop trying to punish vets who've earned their gear. This "do it for the children" solution is and always will be stupid. Noobs should be restricted from fighting vets,not the other way around. (Hence PC) I don't care what nonsensical logic you use. And you seemed to have tried to dodge my point about equipment.(And failed.) Let me explain to you what you're actually saying. You:"You saved up to earn that ferrari?" Meee:"Yeah,cool huh." You:"We're going to need to take three of your wheels because those driving stationwagons can't go that fast." Meee:"But then the others will be able to out pace me." (Regarding equipment.) You:"Do it for the children!! I-i mean noobs. Yeah the noobs." Meee:"So,you're saying i can't use what i've earned?" You:"Exactly!" Meee:"Then why should i keep earning if i can't use it?" You:"Uhhh,you suck! For the children!" Meee sighs Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:10:00 - [22] - Quote Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. I support removing Proto/Officer Gear from Pubs but I am all for having it used in FW. FW and PC is where people can use Proto/Officer Gear.
Happy Violentime 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:11:00 - [23] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. Forced PC fights if you want to us office/proto I know its so hard to deal with them new players and all with out proto or office cuss you suck so bad with out it, but I mean really, really! Point is game is at that point now due to office stompers and proto stompers in pubs, there needs to be a line your not able to cross, I get you cant stay in the training area all the time but, why make new peps go from easy and fun to crap and no fun for them! If you have the skills to us officer and proto go do factional and keep out of the pubs or not us it, I know its not going to happen so forcing ones hand is needed, to up the over all numbers if we don't it will just be us die hard's left to do a circle jerk by our self's! >no limits = poor turn outs or peps just dropping out of match cuss they know your names! >market for dust as its filled by NPC don't matter! >long-term effect of no limits in pubs = circle jerk of die hard's = death of game >game dies any ways even though die hard's don't want it to counter all you want limits are needed, and it was needed from day one of release, as the testers know what to train and what was what or at less i did speaking as a closed test, sorry for the circle bit but it was funny It has limits, you can't use anything higher than officer equipment.. No other limits are needed. Just checked your stats, 19k kills??? You don't even play the game so go away with your worthless opinions.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:22:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Because it won't do anything. Most of the people using that stuff are more than good enough to beat the **** out of you without it. It's not as much of a crutch as people seem to think. I've used plenty of Darth's scrambler rifles and I never wreck people because I'm not that good at shooters. You have to have the guns AND be good with them. Locking out the guns themselves won't do anything. This is not entirely true.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1	Posted - 2015.12.27 00:31:00 - [25] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. I support removing Proto/Officer Gear from Pubs but I am all for having it used in FW. FW and PC is where people can use Proto/Officer Gear. I support porting Dust to PS4 so we can get an influx of newer players. That would actually solve the problem. Your suggestion however is just another arbitrary limitation that actually ignores any long-term ramifications because you're so focused on the now of what Dust is as opposed to what it aspires to be. That and no one answers my question about equipment. What about equipment? ADV repair tools are less than 1/2 the efficiency of its Pro variation. For weapons it's 1 or 2 points,for repair tools it's (75+13)=88x2=176 -or- a loss of 101 reps per second.(Triage version.) How can you justify a loss of 101 reps per second? You can't. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 118	Posted - 2015.12.27 01:00:00 - [26] - Quote Meee One wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Meee One wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. I support removing Proto/Officer Gear from Pubs but I am all for having it used in FW. FW and PC is where people can use Proto/Officer Gear. I support porting Dust to PS4 so we can get an influx of newer players. That would actually solve the problem. Your suggestion however is just another arbitrary limitation that actually ignores any long-term ramifications because you're so focused on the now of what Dust is as opposed to what it aspires to be. That and no one answers my question about equipment. What about equipment? ADV repair tools are less than 1/2 the efficiency of its Pro variation. For weapons it's 1 or 2 points,for repair tools it's (75+13)=88x2=176 -or- a loss of 101 reps per second.(Triage version.) How can you justify a loss of 101 reps per second? You can't. Was the part of no proto lost on you cuss last i looked your question was answered! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.28 09:38:00 - [27] - Quote Meta level lockouts are just plain dumb. My militia beats that newbies militia because my core skills and weapon skills are all maxed out. New players still get stomped. The player base very very RARELY gets over 3000 people online at one time. That's not a lot to divide from and search times already blow. Tanks would be epic over powered with a proper fit in a meta locked match. There are currently some tank fits that require 4 - 5 full proto A/V players to take them down. What happens when not even those people can go proto? I will give you a hint TANKS WIN. Finally, the most damning point, payouts are based on ISK lost. If you remove all high level gear from matches payouts go from seriously bad to incredibly worse. Basically the idea of meta lockouts was a purely knee jerk reaction which did not hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny. There is not one single good aspect that comes from it. Merry Christmas. Happy any holiday you celebrate. Lets all enjoy a New Year that is literally just around the corner.
Jack the Rlpper TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 304	Posted - 2015.12.28 11:05:00 - [28] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: Honestly, I mostly just run apex, but if you lockout by meta level in pubs, then what would I do with all of my money. I have little reason for fw, and have no interest in PC. My experimental factory would be pointless, and occasional officer drops and strongbox rewards would be worthless (selling things for money when I have more money than I can spend would be a waste). Proto is not the problem, it's the fact that there is much balancing work to be done, and that you can't matchmake for teamwork that make it difficult for newer players. And small player base, and onoy 2 matchmaking pools. If you have a lot of extra money I'll gladly take some off your hands as I do alot of fw and some pc. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +50 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +60
five times Liverpool F.C. 259	Posted - 2015.12.28 11:35:00 - [29] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! you will also need to split the playerbase. below 15m SP in one pool, and above 15m in another. I use standard gear in pubs and can get 15 to 30 kills regularly, Passive skills and game/map knowledge is OP. I still believe that non sharing of active and passive scans would improve gameplay. If you want info from your scanlogi mic up. We always hear that "its a team game". so why the laziness of shared scans? use your mic & voice enemy positions to your squad/team.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.28 11:55:00 - [30] - Quote five times wrote: Justice Darling wrote: So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! you will also need to split the playerbase. below 15m SP in one pool, and above 15m in another. I use standard gear in pubs and can get 15 to 30 kills regularly, Passive skills and game/map knowledge is OP. I still believe that non sharing of active and passive scans would improve gameplay. If you want info from your scanlogi mic up. We always hear that "its a team game". so why the laziness of shared scans? use your mic & voice enemy positions to your squad/team. 30 minute search times for newbies. No matches found 75% of the day for vets. SOUNDS SWEET BRO LETS DO IT. We do not even have the population of some back woods little towns online at the highest point in the days. What exactly makes anyone think dividing this up into the smallest possible groups will help anyone? http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Give incentive to win so players actually play to their ability and their gear. THEN fix matchmaking. This is not freaking rocket science people, at the very best it is 6th grade logic. Merry Christmas. Happy any holiday you celebrate. Lets all enjoy a New Year that is literally just around the corner.



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