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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.12.13 16:52:00 -
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Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
8
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Posted - 2015.12.13 16:54:00 -
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I wonder if CCP would have made more money by just making this game actually cost money. Perhaps a one off payment of... -ú5.00? Considering the low percentage of players who actually stay, let alone buy Aurum, I bet CCP would make more.
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Aspiring Pilot
Boyko
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 16:59:00 -
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Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game. |
Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
92
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Posted - 2015.12.13 17:06:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game.
That's what I was trying to convey, having them port the game to PS4 then make it a month to month pay system where it cost you so much AUR for like a mercenary license, like they have for eve with the pilots license, something like that may get the AUR rolling. Hey CCP you can have that one for free just get it done!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2015.12.13 17:40:00 -
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I would have had no problems paying a $15-$20 dollar subscription fee per month up until the end of 2013. Things got shakey after that, but assuming a subscription system would have totally changed Dusts history, myself and many others would more than likely still be playing (and paying). At this point, knowing what I know about CCP and their business practices, I wouldn't play another free CCP game, much less a paid game. |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2015.12.13 17:52:00 -
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I would have no problems paying the game full price on ps4.
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:00:00 -
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NO. I already paid for ps+ for my ps4 so yea not going to happen
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Unholy HateGore
highland marines
120
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:18:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game.
Before anyone would spend money on it monthly they would have to fix ALL bugs, knock everyone down to level 1 (so new players actually have a chance) I have 116,000,000 life time and I would do it to get more people in, get updated graphics, have more content, have ALL racial weapons and vehicle......... and on and on and on. I don't see it happening.
They can't compete with fps games that are out now. Only us truly loyal stick around to play. I have several friends who have given up on this lagfest of a game and moved on to bigger and better.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
938
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:39:00 -
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Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:45:00 -
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It'd make more sense on PC. That way they could tie in the EVE sub to some 'premium' content in DUST if you have one.
Basically you can play DUST for free on PC, but if you play EVE and link your account you would receive a set of items each month for your dust char as well as perhaps 25% passive SP gain. Items could be a special BPO set when you first sign up then each month after you could get 7day omega active booster. 20k AUR and a few disposables. EVE works out at about $17 a month ($35 60d GTC) so one sub for both games is quite a bargain plus it'd perhaps encourage some EVE players to give DUST a try as they get more for their money
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
94
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:47:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not
That was only 59.99 for one yr per username and that's just to get access to their network!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:47:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not
Yeah its pretty uncommon to require both. Usually it's you either simply pay PS+ for online play, or don't pay PS+ and it has a required monthly subscription. Honestly if Dust were to go to PS4 it would fall under the PS+ Requirement, and not have it's own monthly fee.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
941
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Posted - 2015.12.13 19:43:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not Yeah its pretty uncommon to require both. Usually it's you either simply pay PS+ for online play, or don't pay PS+ and it has a required monthly subscription. Honestly if Dust were to go to PS4 it would fall under the PS+ Requirement, and not have it's own monthly fee. Justice Darling wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not That was only 59.99 for one yr per username and that's just to get access to their network! Not true. There are many games that do not require PS+ to play online. Some follow a hybrid model, for example Destiny doesn't require PS+ for basic online interaction but does require it for higher end content such as Raids and special PvP events. Overall PS+ is extremely affordable. Even if you pay the full price of $50 for a year (and you can often find discounts at retailers like Amazon), it comes out to a little over $4 a month which is like a cup of Starbucks...very reasonable. I see, one or the other, yeah that's better..I just refuse to pay $40-60 for a game that has a monthly sub..it's just how I am
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Vicious Minotaur
3
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:42:00 -
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Monthly payments for DUST would be a surefire way to put it into a shallow grave.
You have to have a game worth spending money on for monthly payments to be worth considering, first. Until such a time arrives, no dice.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:27:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I wonder if CCP would have made more money by just making this game actually cost money. Perhaps a one off payment of... -ú5.00? Considering the low percentage of players who actually stay, let alone buy Aurum, I bet CCP would make more.
Nope wouldn't matter cause I know I've paid for a few people with the amount of aurum I've bought over the course of the game.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:58:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Monthly payments for DUST would be a surefire way to put it into a shallow grave.
You have to have a game worth spending money on for monthly payments to be worth considering, first. Until such a time arrives, no dice.
I prefer monthy subs instead of microtransactions but that's just my personal preference. However CCP will not get another cent out of me until they fix their lack of communication about the future of this franchise.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Kaltos Darksbane
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:03:00 -
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I could see maybe $5-$7 monthly sub, but nothing more than that. Eve is far more expansive with tons more to do then we do. I cant see any justification for $20 a month for what little we have. Even after it got a hypothetical sequal/port to ps4.
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Satanic Fister
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:10:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game. Before anyone would spend money on it monthly they would have to fix ALL bugs, knock everyone down to level 1 (so new players actually have a chance) I have 116,000,000 life time and I would do it to get more people in, get updated graphics, have more content, have ALL racial weapons and vehicle......... and on and on and on. I don't see it happening. They can't compete with fps games that are out now. Only us truly loyal stick around to play. I have several friends who have given up on this lagfest of a game and moved on to bigger and better. DUST IS DEAD......End of Story.............. Dust could compete if it was a finished game... hell dust is the best FPS I've ever played (sure it doesn't work right most of the time and you get game breaking lag) but compare dusts tactical thinking requirements to cod or battlefield and you see their shortcomings In all they do.
On dust you don't just worry about what weapons your using you have to worry about how your suits fitted what race it is what it can and can't do how fast it can kill how long can it not be killed. In other fps you only worry about your weapon and that's it and that's why in most dust players eyes dust is the best game ever.
Suffice it to say if another game came out with dusts fitting capabilities we would all go there and leave this pitiful trash heap and burn it
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:53:00 -
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Or..... Instead of that. You can buy me chocalate milk and catnip.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
191
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:55:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I wonder if CCP would have made more money by just making this game actually cost money. Perhaps a one off payment of... -ú5.00? Considering the low percentage of players who actually stay, let alone buy Aurum, I bet CCP would make more. I thought from the start that it should have been a subscription system, similar to EvE. EvE has AUR too, so there's no reason it wouldn't have worked the same. But they wanted their microtransactions I guess, and the payback was no monthly subscriptions. I think monthly subscriptions would have instilled more commitment into the players. |
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
194
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:03:00 -
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Satanic Fister wrote:On dust you don't just worry about what weapons your using you have to worry about how your suits fitted what race it is what it can and can't do how fast it can kill how long can it not be killed. In other fps you only worry about your weapon and that's it and that's why in most dust players eyes dust is the best game ever.
Ah, so that probably explains why I see so many running around in cheap suits with expensive (usually AUR) weapons! The most expensive weapons are only like 10% more DPS than the cheap basic models. It's far more important to survive the firefight unless you can catch them by surprise. |
Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
12
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Posted - 2015.12.14 02:10:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I wonder if CCP would have made more money by just making this game actually cost money. Perhaps a one off payment of... -ú5.00? Considering the low percentage of players who actually stay, let alone buy Aurum, I bet CCP would make more. I thought from the start that it should have been a subscription system, similar to EvE. EvE has AUR too, so there's no reason it wouldn't have worked the same. But they wanted their microtransactions I guess, and the payback was no monthly subscriptions. I think monthly subscriptions would have instilled more commitment into the players.
Maybe..
But remember to add on another U.S. $5 to that bill just for using the PS network on PS4.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.14 03:51:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is!
Yea, no.
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DRAKEST HOUR
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
66
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Posted - 2015.12.14 06:24:00 -
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Would mouth to mouth payments get Dust 514 on top of PS4? |
Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:45:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is! Yea, no. Agreed,mandatory subscriptions would kill Dust.
Optional however...
Something like: -10-15% extra SP and ISK -Some AUR allotment every month
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:59:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is! Yea, no. Agreed,mandatory subscriptions would kill Dust. Optional however... Something like: -10-15% extra SP and ISK -Some AUR allotment every month
basically the same style as Elder Scrolls online. and the idea i came up with to tie EVE subs into DUST accounts. that way it brings more EVE players to DUST on PC and it may even draw DUST players towards EVE
"So, what do you get as an ESO Plus member? LetGÇÖs go over the benefits:
An allotment of crowns to spend in the new in-game Crown Store based on your membership period (more below) Access to all of ESOGÇÖs downloadable content (or DLC) game packs for the duration of your membership A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration
Memberships to ESO Plus can be purchased in 30-, 90-, and 180-day durations starting at Gé¼12,99 / -ú8.99 for a 30-day period. When you sign up for ESO Plus, youGÇÖll receive your full allotment of crowns right away (1500 for 30 days, 4500 for 90 days, or 9000 for 180 days). If you purchase a recurring membership, youGÇÖll receive a full allotment of crowns at the start of each 30-/90-/180-day membership period"
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
541
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:20:00 -
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Issues would have to be fixed first
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
95
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:49:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:It'd make more sense on PC. That way they could tie in the EVE sub to some 'premium' content in DUST if you have one.
Basically you can play DUST for free on PC, but if you play EVE and link your account you would receive a set of items each month for your dust char as well as perhaps 25% passive SP gain. Items could be a special BPO set when you first sign up then each month after you could get 7day omega active booster. 20k AUR and a few disposables. EVE works out at about $17 a month ($35 60d GTC) so one sub for both games is quite a bargain plus it'd perhaps encourage some EVE players to give DUST a try as they get more for their money
Why cant there be both? Can look at it like Xbox one and PS4 is now like any other fps, just it would be PC Dust and PS4 Dust why draw a line in the sand? yeah yeah different networks so what you can have same chats channels now. So why not both, so what you will not be in the same fights as your corp m8's who cares, it ups the numbers of over all players, can my EvE guys come down and do dog fights now? And also shoot peeps in the face with anyone? NO well OK, why not go next gen gaming and kill peeps in space in ship and in dropsuits and down on the ground or in high orbit? Tell you what if i win the lottery I'll fully fund that for CCP for 35% of CCP's company or they can just man up and hire some kids right out of collage and quit F'ing around, with shanghai, birth place of the internet has tons of kids right out of collage just waiting to get hired, ISU
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
95
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:50:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Issues would have to be fixed first
Like what? the lag the guns the lack of a lock out system in pubs? Please do tell!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
95
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:53:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Meee One wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is! Yea, no. Agreed,mandatory subscriptions would kill Dust. Optional however... Something like: -10-15% extra SP and ISK -Some AUR allotment every month basically the same style as Elder Scrolls online. and the idea i came up with to tie EVE subs into DUST accounts. that way it brings more EVE players to DUST on PC and it may even draw DUST players towards EVE "So, what do you get as an ESO Plus member? LetGÇÖs go over the benefits: An allotment of crowns to spend in the new in-game Crown Store based on your membership period (more below) Access to all of ESOGÇÖs downloadable content (or DLC) game packs for the duration of your membership A 10% bonus to XP and gold gain, crafting research, and inspiration Memberships to ESO Plus can be purchased in 30-, 90-, and 180-day durations starting at Gé¼12,99 / -ú8.99 for a 30-day period. When you sign up for ESO Plus, youGÇÖll receive your full allotment of crowns right away (1500 for 30 days, 4500 for 90 days, or 9000 for 180 days). If you purchase a recurring membership, youGÇÖll receive a full allotment of crowns at the start of each 30-/90-/180-day membership period"
I like the concept just not the limits that would put on the game its self. That would make it PC, PC, and not PC, PS4
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:03:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game. That's what I was trying to convey, having them port the game to PS4 then make it a month to month pay system where it cost you so much AUR for like a mercenary license, like they have for eve with the pilots license, something like that may get the AUR rolling. Hey CCP you can have that one for free just get it done!
This is console dude. I can see that happening for an RPG to some degree but even ESO went free. The last I know of is Final Fantasy charging subs. Even so, console players are not going to pay a monthly sub for not a widely known FPS shooter with loose connection to EVE. Majority of console players only know about EVE because gaming websites like to talk about ships that were destroyed and the cost of it in real world money or the espionage aspect.
Especially a game where you can get scammed out a trade? Console players will feel that they paid for an experience that robbed them and complain. Not forgetting a free experience in PS2 and WarFrame.
Monthly sub is the wrong straw to grasp at.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
95
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:41:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game. That's what I was trying to convey, having them port the game to PS4 then make it a month to month pay system where it cost you so much AUR for like a mercenary license, like they have for eve with the pilots license, something like that may get the AUR rolling. Hey CCP you can have that one for free just get it done! This is console dude. I can see that happening for an RPG to some degree but even ESO went free. The last I know of is Final Fantasy charging subs. Even so, console players are not going to pay a monthly sub for not a widely known FPS shooter with loose connection to EVE. Majority of console players only know about EVE because gaming websites like to talk about ships that were destroyed and the cost of it in real world money or the espionage aspect. Especially a game where you can get scammed out a trade? Console players will feel that they paid for an experience that robbed them and complain. Not forgetting a free experience in PS2 and WarFrame. Monthly sub is the wrong straw to grasp at.
Well funny, peps are drop like flies now the point of the month to month is to pay for a rework, spit shine the game and re-release it fixed and bugs free or as best you can, and then put the game on PS4 with the op to port or not ether way don't matter to me, but doing what they are doing atm with not saying anything isn't the right course ether, but I do think there is a way to make it so the mercenary license would unlock more map's PC fights and give you the rights to buy higher level gear, it can still be free to play but access to basic only so a kind of meta lock out if you don't have a mercenary license to gain access to the gear.
You say what others want with no real idea if they do or don't, its well and good that's isn't what you want but don't just presume cuss it's console folks will not pay, just look at Defiance for a test model they have all 3, Xbox PS and PC then tell me no one will pay I just would like to see Dust live longer then the PS3 and if you have a better idea, lets hear it!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 19:16:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:It'd make more sense on PC. That way they could tie in the EVE sub to some 'premium' content in DUST if you have one.
Basically you can play DUST for free on PC, but if you play EVE and link your account you would receive a set of items each month for your dust char as well as perhaps 25% passive SP gain. Items could be a special BPO set when you first sign up then each month after you could get 7day omega active booster. 20k AUR and a few disposables. EVE works out at about $17 a month ($35 60d GTC) so one sub for both games is quite a bargain plus it'd perhaps encourage some EVE players to give DUST a try as they get more for their money Why cant there be both? Can look at it like Xbox one and PS4 is now like any other fps, just it would be PC Dust and PS4 Dust why draw a line in the sand? yeah yeah different networks so what you can have same chats channels now. So why not both, so what you will not be in the same fights as your corp m8's who cares, it ups the numbers of over all players, can my EvE guys come down and do dog fights now? And also shoot peeps in the face with anyone? NO well OK, why not go next gen gaming and kill peeps in space in ship and in dropsuits and down on the ground or in high orbit? Tell you what if i win the lottery I'll fully fund that for CCP for 35% of CCP's company or they can just man up and hire some kids right out of collage and quit F'ing around, with shanghai, birth place of the internet has tons of kids right out of collage just waiting to get hired, ISU
out of all the systems PC is more likely. Less development hassle, no running to sony for approval for updates ect and easier to tie in with EVE as its on same platform. I think everyone needs to accept that PS4 is unlikely. For a start DUST514 has had extremely bad critical reception across the board, why would Sony allow it onto the ps4 in first place? Folk seem to forget that no matter if CCP develop it for PS4 or not. they have to be allowed to put it on the PS4 by Sony.
Your best bet for anything anytime soon would be to move it to PC where all the EVE players are
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
95
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Posted - 2015.12.14 19:38:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:It'd make more sense on PC. That way they could tie in the EVE sub to some 'premium' content in DUST if you have one.
Basically you can play DUST for free on PC, but if you play EVE and link your account you would receive a set of items each month for your dust char as well as perhaps 25% passive SP gain. Items could be a special BPO set when you first sign up then each month after you could get 7day omega active booster. 20k AUR and a few disposables. EVE works out at about $17 a month ($35 60d GTC) so one sub for both games is quite a bargain plus it'd perhaps encourage some EVE players to give DUST a try as they get more for their money Why cant there be both? Can look at it like Xbox one and PS4 is now like any other fps, just it would be PC Dust and PS4 Dust why draw a line in the sand? yeah yeah different networks so what you can have same chats channels now. So why not both, so what you will not be in the same fights as your corp m8's who cares, it ups the numbers of over all players, can my EvE guys come down and do dog fights now? And also shoot peeps in the face with anyone? NO well OK, why not go next gen gaming and kill peeps in space in ship and in dropsuits and down on the ground or in high orbit? Tell you what if i win the lottery I'll fully fund that for CCP for 35% of CCP's company or they can just man up and hire some kids right out of collage and quit F'ing around, with shanghai, birth place of the internet has tons of kids right out of collage just waiting to get hired, ISU out of all the systems PC is more likely. Less development hassle, no running to sony for approval for updates ect and easier to tie in with EVE as its on same platform. I think everyone needs to accept that PS4 is unlikely. For a start DUST514 has had extremely bad critical reception across the board, why would Sony allow it onto the ps4 in first place? Folk seem to forget that no matter if CCP develop it for PS4 or not. they have to be allowed to put it on the PS4 by Sony. Your best bet for anything anytime soon would be to move it to PC where all the EVE players are
And you work for Sony? I'm sorry I just don't see where your getting your information, if you have some insight where this is being said by someone from Sony they by all means please provide the link where they said they wouldn't take the game! If you cant provide, then its good to know your opinion! But as it stands its just that an opinion, and without any evidence, I have to believe the direct opposite of you in this case. I prefer to have a optimistic outlook that after Valkyrie, something will be said about what way CCP would like to go, unless CCP would like to say something now and before Valkyrie! I think they will hold their tongue's to not run off anyone just yet, but then again that is just my opinion!
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.12.14 22:40:00 -
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Sure it's an opinion but it's probably more realistic than teh dellusions the rest fo the playerbase has that DUST will live on, on PS4. That comes from familiarity of how difficult it is to publish games on consoles compared to PC's. PC is basicaly open platform, anyone can get a game design software or an editor, string something together and upload it somewhere. Consoles are a different story, a developer needs different licenses to develop on consoles that they do for PC, more red tape, more cost, more delays.
A good example is the Timesplitters rebrth/rewind game that was in development. I think it took 1-2yrs of too and fro'ing between the developers and sony and Cryengine licensee's to work out if they could develop it for PS4 as well as PC. The PC version was basically a cryengine mod to recreate all the old Timesplitters maps and characters.
Sure CCP are getting their feet on the ground with VR, Gunjack appears to be doing wonders on Samsung VR and the early reveiws for Valkyrie are promising, but they're different games and different divisions of CCP just as DUST is a different team to EVE. Just because Valkyrie is on PS4 doesn't automatically mean DUST or EVE will be and i think the playerbase are just setting themselves up for disappointment by hoping on a PS4 port..... Would i like to proven wrong? F**k yes! I'd love to see DUST moved to PS4 as well, hell i might have a reason to actually play my PS4 if it did, but until the devs conform or deny it i'm gonan assume any future will be on PC as its a far more cost effective and viable platform
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:00:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Sure it's an opinion but it's probably more realistic than teh dellusions the rest fo the playerbase has that DUST will live on, on PS4. That comes from familiarity of how difficult it is to publish games on consoles compared to PC's. PC is basicaly open platform, anyone can get a game design software or an editor, string something together and upload it somewhere. Consoles are a different story, a developer needs different licenses to develop on consoles that they do for PC, more red tape, more cost, more delays.
A good example is the Timesplitters rebrth/rewind game that was in development. I think it took 1-2yrs of too and fro'ing between the developers and sony and Cryengine licensee's to work out if they could develop it for PS4 as well as PC. The PC version was basically a cryengine mod to recreate all the old Timesplitters maps and characters.
Sure CCP are getting their feet on the ground with VR, Gunjack appears to be doing wonders on Samsung VR and the early reveiws for Valkyrie are promising, but they're different games and different divisions of CCP just as DUST is a different team to EVE. Just because Valkyrie is on PS4 doesn't automatically mean DUST or EVE will be and i think the playerbase are just setting themselves up for disappointment by hoping on a PS4 port..... Would i like to proven wrong? F**k yes! I'd love to see DUST moved to PS4 as well, hell i might have a reason to actually play my PS4 if it did, but until the devs conform or deny it i'm gonan assume any future will be on PC as its a far more cost effective and viable platform
Man the level of rage your putting out is mind blowing, and if I didn't know better I would say you give too poo's about this game and are posting here just to pass the time! Tell me I'm wrong please! Oh and also the "That comes from familiarity of how difficult it is to publish games on consoles compared to PC's" are you telling me you have first hand experience with this process or are you just using some other company's incompetence as an example for all company's in the field of game development, or just CCP cuss I still am not sure what your first hand experience with this is, if any. I do concede that I myself have no first hand experience with this process, that being said if we are delusional where is the superior evidence saying we are wrong? And that your correct and we are all nuts and should stop talking about this?
It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:14:00 -
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What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.
That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.
Even if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves.
Is that all you brought? How disappointing. I was hoping for a challenge.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:16:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.
That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.
If if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves.
Less lag?
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
13
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:21:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.
That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.
If if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves. Less lag?
Hence the 2 teams of 4. If your hardware can handle more without lag, then allow for larger sized teams.
Also, allowing us to reduce the texture and graphic details below the current minimum would help too. I'd still enjoy the game if the sky was a solid, non scrolling blue and flat yellow sand instead of having to see every tiny spec and glowing embers in the air. Perhaps a "Borderlands" style frame render? I dunno. But just private hosting smaller teams would help to reduce lag.
Is that all you brought? How disappointing. I was hoping for a challenge.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:30:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.
That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.
If if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves. Less lag? Hence the 2 teams of 4. If your hardware can handle more without lag, then allow for larger sized teams. Also, allowing us to reduce the texture and graphic details below the current minimum would help too. I'd still enjoy the game if the sky was a solid, non scrolling blue and flat yellow sand instead of having to see every tiny spec and glowing embers in the air. Perhaps a "Borderlands" style frame render? I dunno. But just private hosting smaller teams would help to reduce lag.
So you want cellshading? I think hosting peer 2peer servers might bring up cheating in the means of lag switches. Because I don't trust some of our community,being the conniving scum that they are,theyll take anyway they can to win.
Dust would run a hell of a lot better if we didn't have all those weather effects. The duststorms are crazy enough demanding on the ps3's potato hardware as it is. Just turn those off and watch the frames jump up by like 4 frames.
Maybe also cut off all that extra space in the redline that's fully rendered and put a instakill zone for anyone who tries to go that far and maybe less ps3s will die as well
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:42:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is!
That's like paying my mechanic on a monthly basis after he already ****** up my car... twice.
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
13
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:45:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.
That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.
If if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves. Less lag? Hence the 2 teams of 4. If your hardware can handle more without lag, then allow for larger sized teams. Also, allowing us to reduce the texture and graphic details below the current minimum would help too. I'd still enjoy the game if the sky was a solid, non scrolling blue and flat yellow sand instead of having to see every tiny spec and glowing embers in the air. Perhaps a "Borderlands" style frame render? I dunno. But just private hosting smaller teams would help to reduce lag. So you want cellshading? I think hosting peer 2peer servers might bring up cheating in the means of lag switches. Because I don't trust some of our community,being the conniving scum that they are,theyll take anyway they can to win. Dust would run a hell of a lot better if we didn't have all those weather effects. The duststorms are crazy enough demanding on the ps3's potato hardware as it is. Just turn those off and watch the frames jump up by like 4 frames. Maybe also cut off all that extra space in the redline that's fully rendered and put a instakill zone for anyone who tries to go that far and maybe less ps3s will die as well
I agree with you 100% percent. But sadly, the Dust devs seem to think making it look pretty is more important than making it play right.
Is that all you brought? How disappointing. I was hoping for a challenge.
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
13
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Posted - 2015.12.15 01:51:00 -
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I also think it's safe to say that 90% of Dust players could give a **** less about it being connected to Eve- at least in real time.
It's a dumb gimmick that does nothing to enhance gameplay, and if anything, I think it holds Dust back. Make it stand alone.
-Or- if they INSIST on that stupid gimmick, it doesn't need to sync in real time- it can upload data at the end of each battle.
Is that all you brought? How disappointing. I was hoping for a challenge.
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens Imperium Eden
183
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Posted - 2015.12.15 02:29:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Nope.
This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.
For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game.
It's more like hypotheticals more than real progress.
I feel like if we had an eve based subscription we would have less players based on the product we got.
The mire of F2P is what gets nearly daily characters created, but conversely deleted as well.
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.12.15 02:49:00 -
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Also I forgot but no due to the lack of PvE/fps drops/lag/racial vehicles,weapons
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eX - RAY
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.15 05:37:00 -
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Would you not put the game on a dead console again? Thanks.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.28 23:41:00 -
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Subs wouldnt be needed. Fans would be reinvigorated and buy AUR/mercenary packs.
Saying what's on people's minds
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.12.29 00:37:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not Yeah its pretty uncommon to require both. Usually it's you either simply pay PS+ for online play, or don't pay PS+ and it has a required monthly subscription. Honestly if Dust were to go to PS4 it would fall under the PS+ Requirement, and not have it's own monthly fee. Justice Darling wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Pay for ps+ and monthly pay for dust? Definitely not That was only 59.99 for one yr per username and that's just to get access to their network! Not true. There are many games that do not require PS+ to play online. Some follow a hybrid model, for example Destiny doesn't require PS+ for basic online interaction but does require it for higher end content such as Raids and special PvP events. Overall PS+ is extremely affordable. Even if you pay the full price of $50 for a year (and you can often find discounts at retailers like Amazon), it comes out to a little over $4 a month which is like a cup of Starbucks...very reasonable.
It cannot (read should not) require ps+ since it's a free to play working on its own server. Just like planetside, warthunder etc.
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