That's what I was trying to convey, having them port the game to PS4 then make it a month to month pay system where it cost you so much AUR for like a mercenary license, like they have for eve with the pilots license, something like that may get the AUR rolling. Hey CCP you can have that one for free just get it done!

This is console dude. I can see that happening for an RPG to some degree but even ESO went free. The last I know of is Final Fantasy charging subs. Even so, console players are not going to pay a monthly sub for not a widely known FPS shooter with loose connection to EVE. Majority of console players only know about EVE because gaming websites like to talk about ships that were destroyed and the cost of it in real world money or the espionage aspect.

Especially a game where you can get scammed out a trade? Console players will feel that they paid for an experience that robbed them and complain. Not forgetting a free experience in PS2 and WarFrame.

Monthly sub is the wrong straw to grasp at.

Why cant there be both? Can look at it like Xbox one and PS4 is now like any other fps, just it would be PC Dust and PS4 Dust why draw a line in the sand? yeah yeah different networks so what you can have same chats channels now. So why not both, so what you will not be in the same fights as your corp m8's who cares, it ups the numbers of over all players, can my EvE guys come down and do dog fights now? And also shoot peeps in the face with anyone? NO well OK, why not go next gen gaming and kill peeps in space in ship and in dropsuits and down on the ground or in high orbit? Tell you what if i win the lottery I'll fully fund that for CCP for 35% of CCP's company or they can just man up and hire some kids right out of collage and quit F'ing around, with shanghai, birth place of the internet has tons of kids right out of collage just waiting to get hired, ISU

out of all the systems PC is more likely. Less development hassle, no running to sony for approval for updates ect and easier to tie in with EVE as its on same platform.
I think everyone needs to accept that PS4 is unlikely. For a start DUST514 has had extremely bad critical reception across the board, why would Sony allow it onto the ps4 in first place? Folk seem to forget that no matter if CCP develop it for PS4 or not. they have to be allowed to put it on the PS4 by Sony.

Your best bet for anything anytime soon would be to move it to PC where all the EVE players are

Sure it's an opinion but it's probably more realistic than teh dellusions the rest fo the playerbase has that DUST will live on, on PS4.
That comes from familiarity of how difficult it is to publish games on consoles compared to PC's. PC is basicaly open platform, anyone can get a game design software or an editor, string something together and upload it somewhere. Consoles are a different story, a developer needs different licenses to develop on consoles that they do for PC, more red tape, more cost, more delays.

A good example is the Timesplitters rebrth/rewind game that was in development. I think it took 1-2yrs of too and fro'ing between the developers and sony and Cryengine licensee's to work out if they could develop it for PS4 as well as PC.
The PC version was basically a cryengine mod to recreate all the old Timesplitters maps and characters.

Sure CCP are getting their feet on the ground with VR, Gunjack appears to be doing wonders on Samsung VR and the early reveiws for Valkyrie are promising, but they're different games and different divisions of CCP just as DUST is a different team to EVE.
Just because Valkyrie is on PS4 doesn't automatically mean DUST or EVE will be and i think the playerbase are just setting themselves up for disappointment by hoping on a PS4 port..... Would i like to proven wrong? F**k yes! I'd love to see DUST moved to PS4 as well, hell i might have a reason to actually play my PS4 if it did, but until the devs conform or deny it i'm gonan assume any future will be on PC as its a far more cost effective and viable platform

What CCP should do is allow us to use our own private servers to host smaller games with maybe 2 teams of 4. That way, even if it's not profitable and they no longer wish to maintain it- they can still own the rights, and we can still enjoy the game on our own servers. Until and if they ever decide to do more with it.

That way, there's no cost to them to maintain bandwidth or development, but they still own the rights should they ever decide to do more with it in the future.

If if it's only on pc. It's still a win-win solution that would guarantee Dust lives on, even if it never improves.

Less lag?

Hence the 2 teams of 4. If your hardware can handle more without lag, then allow for larger sized teams.

Also, allowing us to reduce the texture and graphic details below the current minimum would help too. I'd still enjoy the game if the sky was a solid, non scrolling blue and flat yellow sand instead of having to see every tiny spec and glowing embers in the air. Perhaps a "Borderlands" style frame render? I dunno. But just private hosting smaller teams would help to reduce lag.

Would Month to Month payments get Dust 514 on PS4? Or would it take an act of GOD to get this game over there? On the PS4 that is!

So you want cellshading?
I think hosting peer 2peer servers might bring up cheating in the means of lag switches. Because I don't trust some of our community,being the conniving scum that they are,theyll take anyway they can to win.

Dust would run a hell of a lot better if we didn't have all those weather effects. The duststorms are crazy enough demanding on the ps3's potato hardware as it is. Just turn those off and watch the frames jump up by like 4 frames.

Maybe also cut off all that extra space in the redline that's fully rendered and put a instakill zone for anyone who tries to go that far and maybe less ps3s will die as well

Nope.

This game would have to port to the PS4 first before any significant number of people would be willing to pay a month-to-month fee for it.

For me personally I would want to see a solid marketing plan to expand the playerbase as a prerequisite to me paying a month-to-month fee for this game.

Yeah its pretty uncommon to require both. Usually it's you either simply pay PS+ for online play, or don't pay PS+ and it has a required monthly subscription. Honestly if Dust were to go to PS4 it would fall under the PS+ Requirement, and not have it's own monthly fee.



Not true. There are many games that do not require PS+ to play online. Some follow a hybrid model, for example Destiny doesn't require PS+ for basic online interaction but does require it for higher end content such as Raids and special PvP events.

Overall PS+ is extremely affordable. Even if you pay the full price of $50 for a year (and you can often find discounts at retailers like Amazon), it comes out to a little over $4 a month which is like a cup of Starbucks...very reasonable.