Sorry man I scan a lot, but never have I run dual scans!

Dual? I run quadruple scans on my gal logi.

Getting scanned 24/7 in a single match is a bit overkill. I dont care how many slots you have and what suit but the stacking scanners has got to go.

I get the importance of a scan and its scanner but it is unnecessary for it to never stop. The whole team is not just going to turn into scouts and place links.

The 200 meter for a scan for 8 seconds with 15 seconds of cool down is still a bit much if a gal logi is using it. Mayby 150 meters for 10 seconds and 20 second cooldown. You dont need 200 cuz on most maps thats half the playing field from redline to redline.

Idk but unless someone has some better ideas for stacked scanners i think one should be enough.

Getting scanned 24/7 in a single match is a bit overkill. I dont care how many slots you have and what suit but the stacking scanners has got to go.

I get the importance of a scan and its scanner but it is unnecessary for it to never stop. The whole team is not just going to turn into scouts and place links.

The 200 meter for a scan for 8 seconds with 15 seconds of cool down is still a bit much if a gal logi is using it. Mayby 150 meters for 10 seconds and 20 second cooldown. You dont need 200 cuz on most maps thats half the playing field from redline to redline.

Idk but unless someone has some better ideas for stacked scanners i think one should be enough.

Dual? I run quadruple scans on my gal logi.

Then we shouldn't have more than 1 link, Nanohive. Or rep on a suit. And duel?

Please, I perma scan with different scanners. I scan scan one right after the other.

Is that necessary? I am able to permascan with my GalLogi using two CreoDron Active Scanners.

I'm partially to putting the same 3 second delay that the cloak has on the Scanners. That way people can carry different scanners for different levels of detection but would have to take time to switch between them. This would also add risk to scanning, as right now it's nothing to switch from scanner to weapon.

There are actually modules you can use to prevent getting scanned, they are called dampeners. They are a low slot item and they are purchasable to the public.

I have read this suggestion from other people and it is a very irrational and illogical suggestion. Take a moment and think about it.

It takes 3 flux to perma scan and a 4th to scan for the potential flank or a focused to get scouts.

So much for u leaving
However I get your point permanent scans can be serouisy annoying.
Gko scout for the win?
I truly suck at scouting xD alloteck breach

Then we shouldn't have more than 1 link, Nanohive. Or rep on a suit. And duel?

Please, I perma scan with different scanners. I scan scan one right after the other.

There are actually modules you can use to prevent getting scanned, they are called dampeners. They are a low slot item and they are purchasable to the public.

I use assault dropsuits so if there is a gal logi using a focused scanner I will have to use 3 slots damping which could have been used for biotics or shield regulator's etc

I use assault dropsuits so if there is a gal logi using a focused scanner I will have to use 3 slots damping which could have been used for biotics or shield regulator's etc

Sorry man I scan a lot, but never have I run dual scans!

You have to skill into a specific suit and use nothing but scans for the effect you're talking about, it only stands to reason that your would have to take a specific measure to defeat it. Otherwise there would be no purpose in running a Gal. Logi with scans.

Put on damps and go take out the guy who is scanning like anyone else with sense would do. Or pull out scans of your own. Or run a suit that isn't affected so much by being scanned. Run scans to level the playing field.

So whine about it or do something on the field to counter it, either way I don't think it's going to change anything.

The problem I have with people saying to equip Dampeners to combat Permascanning is that it only takes one person to force the entire enemy team to have to gimp their suit in order to avoid being scanned.

One person should not have that much power. Permascanning should be a coordinated effort by multiple people.

I think since the Scanner drawls energy from the Dropsuit in order for it to work then it should be made so that once a merc uses a scanner the cool down effect for the scanner applies to all scanners equipped.

This will allow for people to equip different scanners for tactical purposes and forces permascanning to be achieved only when multiple people work together.

Time for a reality check.

Lets start with a great opener. No medium, and especially not a heavy frame should be able to fall under the scan precision of an active scanner. Let me explain.

Assaults: Upfront (in most cases) one on one encounters. They are good for getting up in there and shoving their guns right down peoples throats UNLESS they are focused on long range encounters with long ranged weapons. They are scannable because they have a bit of tank to them.

Logis: Do I even need to say that the fact that they hold equipment gives more than ample reason to be scanned?

Commandos: Tankier Assaults (usually with some form of AV) or just the fact that they have TWO light weapons, and not to mention their base HP is much higher than an Assault. Scans are used to pick up threats, and Commandos can be deadly.

Sentinels: Fatty McFat Fats with armor plates and a freaking HMG or Forge Gun. So yeah these guys definitely should never fall under a scan.


Secondly, anyone who says "why should I or anyone else gimp my suit by using a damp" needs to be slapped. If you are relying THAT much on your HP then maybe you should run something else or hide like the little whiney bitches you are. You are gimping yourself by not being diverse in your playstyle. (This just grinds my gears because I think of all the people who don't use proper fits and then complain when other mechanics in the game beat them out. This to me is a no brainer.)


Next lets take a minute to think about how many people you see on the field with scanners. I know that if I'm in a squad there are two of us with scanners and neither of us have more than one on our suits PLUS I see about 3-5 other people on my team running scans as well. To top THAT off, I generally see one or more vehicles driving or flying around with scans constantly running.


Moral of this little story is that if you're complaining about Permascanning, please do us all a favor and grow a pair because your cries are nothing but invalid and there are too many buckets full of your tears laying around. Use them on something that is actually wrong in this game.

Oh Alcina... Your posts are intriguing...
Also, you like my Sig? It's a reference to last night. :P

LOL! Best conversation ever. My head hurts from laughing so much....and then from raging so much.

Time for a reality check.

Lets start with a great opener. No medium, and especially not a heavy frame should be able to fall under the scan precision of an active scanner. Let me explain.

Assaults: Upfront (in most cases) one on one encounters. They are good for getting up in there and shoving their guns right down peoples throats UNLESS they are focused on long range encounters with long ranged weapons. They are scannable because they have a bit of tank to them.

Logis: Do I even need to say that the fact that they hold equipment gives more than ample reason to be scanned?

Commandos: Tankier Assaults (usually with some form of AV) or just the fact that they have TWO light weapons, and not to mention their base HP is much higher than an Assault. Scans are used to pick up threats, and Commandos can be deadly.

Sentinels: Fatty McFat Fats with armor plates and a freaking HMG or Forge Gun. So yeah these guys definitely should never fall under a scan.


Secondly, anyone who says "why should I or anyone else gimp my suit by using a damp" needs to be slapped. If you are relying THAT much on your HP then maybe you should run something else or hide like the little whiney bitches you are. You are gimping yourself by not being diverse in your playstyle. (This just grinds my gears because I think of all the people who don't use proper fits and then complain when other mechanics in the game beat them out. This to me is a no brainer.)


Next lets take a minute to think about how many people you see on the field with scanners. I know that if I'm in a squad there are two of us with scanners and neither of us have more than one on our suits PLUS I see about 3-5 other people on my team running scans as well. To top THAT off, I generally see one or more vehicles driving or flying around with scans constantly running.


Moral of this little story is that if you're complaining about Permascanning, please do us all a favor and grow a pair because your cries are nothing but invalid and there are too many buckets full of your tears laying around. Use them on something that is actually wrong in this game.

LoL "Risk to scanning?" You mean "risk to farting".

You want a Scanning Risk? Force ALL scans to reveal EVERYONE in their scan radius.

Both allies and enemies.

EVERYONE.

I can understand equipping a Focused Scanner as Scanner #3 for tactical reasons but I feel like equipping 3 CreoDron Active Scanners is rather inefficient.

Perhaps equipping so many scanners makes sense when running with a squad because you can just have someone else in your squad take care of providing other very necessary pieces of equipment. My Logi's are fitted around the premise of me running solo so if I were to equip three scanners it would be less beneficial than if I equipped two scanners and used my other two equipment slots for two other pieces of equipment.

I guess it's all situational.

Time for a reality check.

Lets start with a great opener. No medium, and especially not a heavy frame should be able to fall under the scan precision of an active scanner. Let me explain.

Assaults: Upfront (in most cases) one on one encounters. They are good for getting up in there and shoving their guns right down peoples throats UNLESS they are focused on long range encounters with long ranged weapons. They are scannable because they have a bit of tank to them.

Logis: Do I even need to say that the fact that they hold equipment gives more than ample reason to be scanned?

Commandos: Tankier Assaults (usually with some form of AV) or just the fact that they have TWO light weapons, and not to mention their base HP is much higher than an Assault. Scans are used to pick up threats, and Commandos can be deadly.

Sentinels: Fatty McFat Fats with armor plates and a freaking HMG or Forge Gun. So yeah these guys definitely should never fall under a scan.


Secondly, anyone who says "why should I or anyone else gimp my suit by using a damp" needs to be slapped. If you are relying THAT much on your HP then maybe you should run something else or hide like the little whiney bitches you are. You are gimping yourself by not being diverse in your playstyle. (This just grinds my gears because I think of all the people who don't use proper fits and then complain when other mechanics in the game beat them out. This to me is a no brainer.)


Next lets take a minute to think about how many people you see on the field with scanners. I know that if I'm in a squad there are two of us with scanners and neither of us have more than one on our suits PLUS I see about 3-5 other people on my team running scans as well. To top THAT off, I generally see one or more vehicles driving or flying around with scans constantly running.


Moral of this little story is that if you're complaining about Permascanning, please do us all a favor and grow a pair because your cries are nothing but invalid and there are too many buckets full of your tears laying around. Use them on something that is actually wrong in this game.

Active scanners have no flaws and are way too powerful, people defending them are just like people defending any OP weapons, blind on purpose.

Being able to perma scan makes an already OP equipment even more powerful. It deletes all the potential drawbacks of the scanner which are range and cooldown. Bring 3 or 4 and you can see even the most dampened scout permanently.

Gimping an assault suit or anything that's not a scout with more than 1 dampener is totally stupid, and people who think they are smart by suggesting this should play the game instead of playing "the forums".

GalScout

just change to an undetectable suit?

The problem I have with people saying to equip Dampeners to combat Permascanning is that it only takes one person to force the entire enemy team to have to gimp their suit in order to avoid being scanned.

One person should not have that much power. Permascanning should be a coordinated effort by multiple people.

I think since the Scanner drawls energy from the Dropsuit in order for it to work then it should be made so that once a merc uses a scanner the cool down effect for the scanner applies to all scanners equipped.

This will allow for people to equip different scanners for tactical purposes and forces permascanning to be achieved only when multiple people work together.

Every moment a person is using a scan he is not using a gun in his hand.
Then again, he is a force multiplier for all the other gunwielders.

It would be cool if scans were up only while the scanner was out. Like a reptool. Good idea. +1

Thats a good idea. Add that to the implementations.

Terrible idea, altho being scanned is a real pain in the ass it's not a great WP builder, add to that that there scanner that's can show your enemy for up to 20 seconds. Alot can happen in 20 seconds meaning you could be killed by a alot of things that you cannot do anything about due to being handy capped in the scanning animation. Look at the reptool for example if you were to get rushed it takes acouple of seconds to switch to your weapon and shoot, giving you enemy an advanced even before the shooting begins.