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Tread Loudly 2
CASSETTE 514
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Posted - 2015.11.27 07:34:00 -
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This is just a question I would like answered by the community.
My reasoning for losing interest in Dust isn't the game itself or the dev's. Sure there are things that they could fix that would make the game better but they aren't the main reason in my opinion.
The real reason is the players.
The players "worth their salt" simply follow the FOTM or let blues take bullets for them while they K/D farm. (Players currently playing. Not old n' true vets)
The players camp up high to avoid an actual fight on the point
The players spam grenades to avoid a fight.
The bad players follow the "good players" and aspire to become like them rather than their own merc
The "newer players" want help but refuse to listen
The Blues in pub matches should almost all be in a sandbox mode fight AI because they need it
The players prefer to camp in the red line with a Rail Rifle rather than pushing out
The players quit matches after seeing the enemy team
The players go to the forums and wine about anything thing can find, from Jump mods to re's and then back to alpha damage weapons.
o7 I look forward to seeing why you are/have losing/lost interest in Dust.
We're coming for you. You know who you are. And you know you have no chance.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 08:19:00 -
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Too many ********/pathetic people amongst the playerbase and one major problem with CCP.
In Pubs I see people run Proto/Officer Gear whenever they see newberries but run crap gear when they see they are up against players with a decent level of skill. Then when someone suggests leveling out the playing field for Pubs so that low SP newberries could have a better playing experience the ******** come out (some don't even play the game anymore) and complain.
I am also getting tired of Veterans who are hung up on the great players of the past to such an extent that they talk **** or look down upon the great players of today. To me this is the most mind blowingly pathetic characteristic I see in way too many players. It's like listening to a bunch of old people who start off everything they say with "back in my day" and then finish their statement with some condescending ******* remark.
As for CCP, I have a big problem with how little they care about people being scammed in this game. I understand CCP is all about trying to create content for the game but allowing scamming to the degree that it is at is absolute ********. CCP could have worked to implement the same type of trading system that you see in Eve but instead they put together a very simple trading system that allows scamming which in turn brings about very negative consequences.
CCP needs to realize that many members of the playerbase are putting in the effort to better NPE so that hopefully the playerbase can grow. Anytime a newberry gets scammed, because CCP allows this and does nothing to mitigate the issue, CCP is not only harming the growth of this game but is essentially saying '**** you and your efforts' to those who are trying to better NPE. |
AJNAS 786
Emperors Empire 7
3
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Posted - 2015.11.27 08:24:00 -
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I would agree on new player thing.They wont even listen to tips and act like they are gods.They are hillarious btw |
Anaheim Darko
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.27 08:44:00 -
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I'm losing interest in Dust because Dust seems to have lost interest in us. #portdust514
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Scout ck.0.
Sentinel ck.0, ak.0.
Commando ck.0, ak.0
Logistics ck.0
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:00:00 -
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The silence from CCP is sadly a demotivator for me.
I feel privileged to have been part of Dust since close beta, and I like to follow the evolution of the game.
I haven't given up on Dust, and I play occasionally.
It's not like I play a lot of other games either. It's more that my available gaming time have been reduced from a few hours a week to close to zero. (Kids, work and all).
I will be here until Dust close shop, but some updates would probably spark my interest again. |
JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:08:00 -
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I'll be on for the event tomorrow. Im having a blast wrecking elite players in Hardline on my ps4 yet Im a n00b.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
256
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:29:00 -
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Extreme lag during PCs. I don't participate in a lot of them anymore, but when I do play them I always lag into oblivion. It's gotten to the point that I actually started excusing myself from PCs because I know that I won't be able to provide anything useful.
Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:40:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Too many ********/pathetic people amongst the playerbase and one major problem with CCP.
In Pubs I see people run Proto/Officer Gear whenever they see newberries but run crap gear when they see they are up against players with a decent level of skill. Then when someone suggests leveling out the playing field for Pubs so that low SP newberries could have a better playing experience the ******** come out (some don't even play the game anymore) and complain.
I am also getting tired of Veterans who are hung up on the great players of the past to such an extent that they talk **** or look down upon the great players of today. To me this is the most mind blowingly pathetic characteristic I see in way too many players. It's like listening to a bunch of old people who start off everything they say with "back in my day" and then finish their statement with some condescending ******* remark.
As for CCP, I have a big problem with how little they care about people being scammed in this game. I understand CCP is all about trying to create content for the game but allowing scamming to the degree that it is at is absolute ********. CCP could have worked to implement the same type of trading system that you see in Eve but instead they put together a very simple trading system that allows scamming which in turn brings about very negative consequences.
CCP needs to realize that many members of the playerbase are putting in the effort to better NPE so that hopefully the playerbase can grow. Anytime a newberry gets scammed, because CCP allows this and does nothing to mitigate the issue, CCP is not only harming the growth of this game but is essentially saying '**** you and your efforts' to those who are trying to better NPE.
Boo hoo hoo! Oh no a player gets scammed! Let's turn Dust into a care bear daycare! Gamers are freaking cry babies
Time to bring it back: this is New Eden HtheeFU.
Either this game gets a port or not. So what about the NPE? People are going to buy PS3s for the awesome new NPE in Dust? That's what makes Dust, Dust. Oh we can give critical acclaim to Demon's Souls for not teaching you squat, a simple die first, learn next mechanic but somehow this grim sci fi shooter with a edgy, mirrored real world , grim atmosphere reputation, needs to keep dumbing down to satisfy a quota that can never be met on aging system that no one with money to burn cares about.
This game died when they announced Legion and though Rat man did his best to salvage this game, the subtracted playerbase impacted this game in more ways than one. The battles began to suck. Short sighted forum warriors voted for CPMs not worth a damn and voted for changes to the game that were merely bad uneducated experiments. And through all that, people moaned the loudest about a freaking NPE when the NPE has always been community driven in games like these!
Folks just don't get it.
Saying what's on people's minds
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:49:00 -
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At this point of the game talking about of fotm is pointless.
I guess that the majority of players have over 50kk sp.
Personally I'm near 100, I play events, I play a match for the daily key, but then I log out, there are things I can't bear anymore.
1. Teleporters or ultra lagging dudes, generally Japs playing on EU.
2. Lack of players, leading to uneven MM, creating boring one sided games.
3. Excessive roof camping.
4. Too many explosions in general
Regressed to blueberry level.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:14:00 -
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I don't even play anymore, I just log in every day.
I lost the need to play because of lack of new content.
Give us 1.3!
What... 1.3, when?
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:23:00 -
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I enjoy killing K/D pansies, I actually hunt them down just to kill them for being a coward.
The main thing wrong with this game, that would make me lose interest, is the bugs and lag. Lag is self explanatory but it's also the shooting people and doing no damage, the firing your gun but it's not really firing or using bullets, the swapping to another weapon and trying to fire just to have it swap back and forth instead.... There are a lot more, but it's those things that make you get killed for no reason other than poor programing.
The main reason I stay is because of the time I've invested into the game and the friends I have made. This game does have a good community c:
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Anaheim Darko
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:30:00 -
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Erroneous post,ignore.
Maxed Cores.
Assault ck.0, ak.0
Scout ck.0.
Sentinel ck.0, ak.0.
Commando ck.0, ak.0
Logistics ck.0
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The Eristic
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:53:00 -
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Lag and general bugginess.
Predictability (on a related note, lol at the old vets not being fotm chasers).
Silence from CCP.
The PS4 now sitting next to my PS3 ain't gonna help.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
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lillpropun
Dead Man's Game
54
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:59:00 -
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In my opinion why I-¦m losing,as a not so experienced player, 2 things:
-Remove K/D Ratio.
How is K/D Ratio making this game better? Encourage WP and teamplay (I play logi and my ratio is quite bad...but I don-¦t care.)
Be a sniper and you get good K/D, but not very helpful for own team when like half the team are camping on mountains and rooftops.
-Proto and officer gears for PC only. No proto in pubs, advance is good enough. (APEX doesn-¦t count as proto according to most "vets")
Maybe new players got a better chance/experience when playing.
Why I lost interest already?
-Matchmaking and Scotty...how hard can it be to find a match? obviously 8-10 min is normal, restart,servers,game modes not helping (Ping:9ms, up- and download 50 Mbit/s, signal 95%)
and a side note:
-Change current trading method or remove it.
Scamming way too easy...(you send first, then I send......ooops dc-¦d)
You miss 100% of the shots you donGÇÖt take.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3
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Posted - 2015.11.27 11:13:00 -
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I mainly left because when I returned from dust after a long hiatus, there were very few good ADS pilots left. In these days, there are about only four pilots I would count that would get my blood pumping for duels. In the old days, there were many, Snugglez, Evolution-7, the list goes on.
They all played and were an honor to duel, whether I won or not. In my last days of dust, all it was a bunch of redliners who sat in a place where they're basically a demigod, and pelted me with an endless barrage of a weapon that a retard blind dead monkey ghost could use effectively. The forge gunners also left, one of the few other awesome duels I had, and most swapped to swarms.
I could honestly forgo the toxic community who does nothing but complain, the silent devs (this was a catalyst, won't lie), and even the new players in PC who would sell out their grandma for a klondike bar rip off. If you ever wonder why the open/closed beta vets hate the newb community, this is why. Had one corp try to join the alliance FA and AE were in, but they had a corp member we had bad blood with, and were willing to kick him to get in. It didn't happen that way, but the fact that he looked at him as expendable kind of... I don't know, I don't approve of kicking people to the curb for conveniences sake.
Anyway, I've babbled on long enough.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
I like whales
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IVIaster LUKE
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 12:04:00 -
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Thanks for this thread. I needed a good laugh.
The punchline is CCP. LOL
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Aeon Amadi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.27 14:36:00 -
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Impossible to get any sort of longevity in a corporation. I'll join a PC corp, hang around for three months, then everyone will failscade into the next corporation. Makes for a long list on my employment history and I hate having new leadership/corp-mates every few months.
Then you always get these hotshot leaders in the next corp who think they're God's gift to FPS games because they got a rival/friendly corp to merge with theirs. They always want to be in charge, flaunt their power, and it always ends the same way. Lose a handful of battles in some big PC war, everyone leaves to join the next winning team, and it lasts a few months before the vicious cycle repeats itself.
I wouldn't care about seeing the same faces all the time if it weren't for the fact that they're always going to be jumping corps in small durations. I like stability.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
934
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Posted - 2015.11.27 14:42:00 -
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Game can still be a lot of fun but the thing that puts me off is that we have had bugs and errors in the game now for years that have not been addressed.
Simple fixing up of bugs and polishing the game with a bit of optimisation so that it might run smoother would do this game a world of good. (AKA PORT this damn thing now) |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.27 15:06:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Lag and general bugginess.
Predictability (on a related note, lol at the old vets not being fotm chasers).
Silence from CCP.
The PS4 now sitting next to my PS3 ain't gonna help.
^ All of this.
CPM2's self-servicing to date -- in combination with Rattati's silence -- hasn't exactly inspired confidence either. DUST needs better fights and better NPE. Not Assault buffs, Swarm nerfs and more vet perks. Come on, guys.
Speaking of DUST Jesus, it'd be nice to hear from the big guy every once in awhile. Even if it's only about big picture stuff. A major part of what made DUST interesting (for me, at least) was the sense that we -- the community -- had at least some
input in the shaping of the game. Today, that seems to be the CPM's job and their job alone. These guys are more inclined to push for what they want than push for what we need. So why even bother?
I'll come back to DUST when player input matters again. For me, Fallout 4 came at just the right time.
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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Aeon Amadi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.27 15:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:The Eristic wrote:Lag and general bugginess.
Predictability (on a related note, lol at the old vets not being fotm chasers).
Silence from CCP.
The PS4 now sitting next to my PS3 ain't gonna help.
^ All of this. CPM2's self-servicing to date -- in combination with Rattati's silence -- hasn't exactly inspired confidence either. DUST needs better fights and better NPE. Not Assault buffs, Swarm nerfs and more vet perks. Come on, guys. Speaking of DUST Jesus, it'd be nice to hear from the big guy every once in awhile. Even if it's only about big picture stuff. A major part of what made DUST interesting (for me, at least) was the sense that we -- the community -- had at least some input in the shaping of the game. Today, that seems to be the CPM's job and their job alone. These guys are more inclined to push for what they want than push for what we need. So why even bother? I'll come back to DUST when player input matters again. For me, Fallout 4 came at just the right time.
Self-servicing...?
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 17:44:00 -
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My losing of interest towards Dust revolves around:
- CCP silence
- Terrain and weapon glitches that have been around for quite some time, such as the RR misfire.
- A matchmaking system that starts most games with uneven teams.
Another thing that annoys me are random team mates in pubs / FW that aren't worth anything. They do not contribute anything positive towards the team, or helping establish a win.
I'm only here because of the friendships with my corp mates / social features of Dust.
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
896
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Posted - 2015.11.27 18:30:00 -
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I'd rather be on my PC or ps4
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danthrax martin
Bad Blueberries
611
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Posted - 2015.11.27 18:53:00 -
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For me it's reduced squad size.
6 was enough for my social circle.
Some days i just do my logging and go if friends aren't on.
I thought K/D padding was better than Kotex.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 18:55:00 -
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Ps3 be broken and dust being the cause of it.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 19:07:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:This is just a question I would like answered by the community.
My reasoning for losing interest in Dust isn't the game itself or the dev's. Sure there are things that they could fix that would make the game better but they aren't the main reason in my opinion.
The real reason is the players.
The players "worth their salt" simply follow the FOTM or let blues take bullets for them while they K/D farm. (Players currently playing. Not old n' true vets)
The players camp up high to avoid an actual fight on the point
The players spam grenades to avoid a fight.
The bad players follow the "good players" and aspire to become like them rather than their own merc
The "newer players" want help but refuse to listen
The Blues in pub matches should almost all be in a sandbox mode fighting AI because they need it
The players prefer to camp in the red line with a Rail Rifle rather than pushing out
The players quit matches after seeing the enemy team
The players go to the forums and wine about anything that can find, from Jump mods to re's and then back to alpha damage weapons.
o7 I look forward to seeing why you are/have losing/lost interest in Dust.
Right. I seen you guys totally r@pe a team 140 to 26 clones. You wonder why and your corp and many others are just stomping. Maybe once you have the point switching to basic might help the other team to engage more rather than tring to survive the next opponent.
If CCP didnt show KDR cept for end of a battle like Destiny does then that too might help but technically its already to late.
A skunk rule should apply and end the matches early if one team is dominating the field. It would quit wasteing a lot of my time. No wonder people leave a battle. Screw the game if its not gunna be fun to play unless your on the winning team. Its very very rare to find a match to have fun in and still lose the battle or win but just barely.
There are to many things that hinder positive game play.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 19:28:00 -
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Because. PS4 |
Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.11.27 19:54:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:This is just a question I would like answered by the community.
My reasoning for losing interest in Dust isn't the game itself or the dev's. Sure there are things that they could fix that would make the game better but they aren't the main reason in my opinion.
The real reason is the players.
The players "worth their salt" simply follow the FOTM or let blues take bullets for them while they K/D farm. (Players currently playing. Not old n' true vets)
The players camp up high to avoid an actual fight on the point
The players spam grenades to avoid a fight.
The bad players follow the "good players" and aspire to become like them rather than their own merc
The "newer players" want help but refuse to listen
The Blues in pub matches should almost all be in a sandbox mode fighting AI because they need it
The players prefer to camp in the red line with a Rail Rifle rather than pushing out
The players quit matches after seeing the enemy team
The players go to the forums and wine about anything that can find, from Jump mods to re's and then back to alpha damage weapons.
o7 I look forward to seeing why you are/have losing/lost interest in Dust. Right. I seen you guys totally r@pe a team 140 to 26 clones. You wonder why and your corp and many others are just stomping. Maybe once you have the point switching to basic might help the other team to engage more rather than tring to survive the next opponent. If CCP didnt show KDR cept for end of a battle like Destiny does then that too might help but technically its already to late. A skunk rule should apply and end the matches early if one team is dominating the field. It would quit wasteing a lot of my time. No wonder people leave a battle. Screw the game if its not gunna be fun to play unless your on the winning team. Its very very rare to find a match to have fun in and still lose the battle or win but just barely. There are to many things that hinder positive game play.
I'm honestly against the removal of KDR. I would rather people learn how to correctly read and interpret a KDR as well as realize that there are other stats in this game, some of which carry more weight than a KDR. CCP could help this by listing separate KDRs for the different roles as well as Factions a person runs in battle, and by listing more stats such as ISK Efficiency and WPs Earned Per Minute.
I am also against the "skunk rule" because I hate giving up and I will be extremely ****** off if a match I am playing is cut short because a bunch of other people decide to quit instead of using the *** whipping as an opportunity to learn to adapt and to figure out different ways to counter the changing conditions of a battle.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
2
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Posted - 2015.11.27 20:03:00 -
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LAG - Killing the game brutaly
Optimization - Bugs, framerates and popups
Nonsences - FoTM/Unbalances in weaponary,suits, vehicles/OP combiations
Nonexisting push for strategy - Flat maps, points mostly accesible just from one or two ways
Design of buildings and assets (few of them quite subjective but i see them like "nail in to coffin") - Invisible walls, blind end room/halls without any reasson, platforms connected by one thin ledge but with big4ss cargo (honestly no logic for that) and accesible just one small staircase (even bigger nonsence).
"Mushroom hunter and Fish devourer."
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.11.27 21:28:00 -
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Incredibly repetitive and BORING. Spend 5 - 10 minutes in the merc quarters to end up in a match that 8 out of 10 times is going to be a lopsided red line match within minutes. Even when you includes battles that actually become a battle you are pretty much guaranteed to spend MORE TIME WAITING THAN ACTUALLY PLAYING. How anyone can consider that entertaining is beyond me.
Absolutely lacking in core mechanics and functionality. Tank just turned the corner and you go to sprint for cover but OOPs no sprint for you until you do the chicken dance, while this does not occur as often its still there. How about when you have to shoot some one 4 - 5 times just to register one hit? Hey new players and players that do not go on the forums we want you to put out equipment but it works using a secret function that you can not find a description for anywhere in the game. Come on CCP this was your starting teams screw up. How can you let someone build a video game with no focus on the basic core mechanics and now you have left Rattati to clean up the mess with what would seem like absolutely zero support from above other than counting up dollars collected.
No end game and nothing worth working towards. At least when the SP cap was lower we were all distracted grinding for a proto suit we find out there is absolutely no reason to have it. Rattati tried hard on PC even with both hands tied behind his back but the simple fact is it is still more profitable to farm than it is to fight a real fight.
Overall a garbage community. All the waiting time and the fact that we have been killed off to nothing but the bottom of the barrel when it comes to players means you are probably gonna spend more time getting hate mail or trolled than anything else. Sure vets just laugh this off but why would a newbie stick around when there are so many games out there that he at least has a chance of getting started without being stomped, trolled, and scammed possibly even out of real money before he or she finally gives up and leaves.
The only reason CCP even continues to allow their name to be placed on this game is because all the try hards are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on 1% damage and different color suits.
The real question that should be getting asked here is why in the world anyone still plays this game or spends money on it while being dumped on by the higher management in absolutely every way possible. If Rattati and Frame and a few other hard working people over there had half a brain they would get out while they still can. Once this thing finally crashes and burns it is going to be an even bigger blemish on their resumes instead of what it is now. You guys are hard working and smart people, you can do great things on a game that is actually cared about by the company.
I have had more fun on a couple of unnamed PS4 games over the past 2 weeks than I have had in the last 6 months of Dust.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2015.11.27 21:45:00 -
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to busy with real life...
I'm kind of a big deal.
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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Chosokabe Ite
Shields Of The State
161
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Posted - 2015.11.28 02:50:00 -
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Broken controller.
Dust is the only game I play on the PS3 but I'm not forking over 50 dollars for a new controller just to play a F2P game on the PS3. Especially if I don't even know how much longer its going to stay there.
And if course, the maddening silence that has left an ever festering gash between CCP and us. They're gambling with our patience and so far they've been losing.
Account I play Dust and Destiny(PS4) on: TheWW2Dude -----
Main account for PS4: TheGamingFedora
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.28 03:25:00 -
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I stopped cuz I had no excuse to play anymore I only have reasons not to play. Simple as that.
Time since Legion News
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The Noob Destroyer
1
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Posted - 2015.11.28 05:12:00 -
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I quit after jadek scammed me out of 35 mill.
PAS
People Against Signatures.
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Vicious Minotaur
3
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Posted - 2015.11.28 05:39:00 -
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A couple reasons:
Game is mostly not fun.
It hasn't seen any meaningful development in a longass time.
Fallout 4 is exceedingly enjoyable.
I have a PS4.
Oh, and did I mention Fallout? Because that game is fun. Almost as fun as shltposting in GD.
Minotaur Master Race
Violently penetrating you since ca 84 BCE. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
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JudgeIsABadPilot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2015.11.28 06:43:00 -
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This was the very first iteration of Dust. Compare it to what we have today.
Why do you think people lost interest? If you weren't at all around for those days, or have never seen a video of what it was like for closed beta, then do yourself a favor (or punish yourself, depends on how you look at it) and watch the whole video. They couldn't remake this if they had a full and proper development team with the budget to match.
I've been boycotting this game for many months. You're all late to the party.
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics
222
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Posted - 2015.11.28 14:39:00 -
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JudgeIsABadPilot wrote:This was the very first iteration of Dust. Compare it to what we have today. Why do you think people lost interest? If you weren't at all around for those days, or have never seen a video of what it was like for closed beta, then do yourself a favor (or punish yourself, depends on how you look at it) and watch the whole video. They couldn't remake this if they had a full and proper development team with the budget to match.
Haven't seen this in a long time, thanks for that. Loved the music, the HUD, the sound and feel of the AR (though, not the clip size so much), the old installations looked great, liked the TTK (yeah, really. But don't ask me after you add dampening to the sauce). Sad but long gone.
I did not forsake DUST yet, but I get, if a few things make others decide otherwise:
- Lag, lag and ...lag,
- rooftop and CRU+uplink camping
- all but gone maps (MCC repair yard, anyone still remember?)
- The GRIND (SP is all that is worth killing for, not so interesting if you are past the 100 mil SP mark), nothing to aspire to
- no PVE or the like (hackable hidden war chests in-map, anyone still remember the overall excitement of the believed hidden mode to open all encrypted strongboxes?)
- no immersion into the greater eve universe, no storyline to follow, no epic arcs: events are nice, but singular in nature, there is no overarching perspective or long-lived agenda (this could even been intertwined with PlanetaryConquest, but no.)
- the unfulfilled promise of eve-dust interaction, that stayed nothing but a lip service beyond serving orbital strikes (this could have been intertwined with PlanetaryConquest as well, but no.)
- repetitiveness, nothing worth exploring
- no hurdles or enemies (structures, PVE enemies, etc.) for only combined Tanks effort to overcome, Tank-team tactics in general is all but vanished
Just some things Iam direly missing...I still lurk around out of pure accommodativeness and inertia I guess, but this should not be
a grounds for CCP to build their player base on.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
947
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Posted - 2015.11.28 14:48:00 -
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Because I get stomped into the ground whenever I try to have fun.
Also, lag.
Minmatar at heart
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Take Off Hoser
Please Port Dust
45
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Posted - 2015.11.28 16:27:00 -
[38] - Quote
Losing interest because everyone else i mostly played with early on is on ps4 now. And the community on ps3 aint getting any bigger.
Port dust to ps4!
Dust has reached its limits here, why stay on ps3 ? |
Doc Browner
Subsonic Synthesis
271
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Posted - 2015.11.28 21:16:00 -
[39] - Quote
no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
I spill my Blood for Freedom and righteousness
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.11.28 21:19:00 -
[40] - Quote
Doc Browner wrote:no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
Are you still having to deal with the 'black screen' issue? |
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
2
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Posted - 2015.11.28 21:22:00 -
[41] - Quote
Doc Browner wrote:no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
Oki let me clarify few of these:
Jumpy MDs - because they push for "blue tonic" they will not have shields (use the antiarmor weaponary, ACR is best for me)
lag switch - this works just in P2P games, Dust have one dedicated (but little glitchy) server ergo no lagswitch can work here
blackscreens - i did not have one two or three days, it looks resolved (you can leave game and restar anytime)
internal errors - every game have these (can you sent me witch one you mean)
bailed people - yup and people who likes dust will everytime go back (like myself for example)
ERGO
Not many issue i see here padawan ;)
"Who is postapo?!"
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IVIaster LUKE
1
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Posted - 2015.11.28 23:47:00 -
[42] - Quote
Chosokabe Ite wrote:Broken controller.
Dust is the only game I play on the PS3 but I'm not forking over 50 dollars for a new controller just to play a F2P game on the PS3.
Please forgive, I don't play this game at all but...
Checkout your local pawnshop, they usually have some cheap controllers for 5 bucks. o7
BM- 112315. o7. Texan 1st =ƒç¦=ƒç+ 2nd.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
Rise Of Legion.
887
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Posted - 2015.11.29 01:09:00 -
[43] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Doc Browner wrote:no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
Oki let me clarify few of these: Jumpy MDs - because they push for "blue tonic" they will not have shields (use the antiarmor weaponary, ACR is best for me) lag switch - this works just in P2P games, Dust have one dedicated (but little glitchy) server ergo no lagswitch can work here blackscreens - i did not have one two or three days, it looks resolved (you can leave game and restar anytime) internal errors - every game have these (can you sent me witch one you mean) bailed people - yup and people who likes dust will everytime go back (like myself for example) ERGO Not many issue i see here padawan ;)
Internal error he means is when you disconnect but you can still watch the game unfold in front of you |
gekko k
Grundstein Automation
Property of Negative-Impact
125
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Posted - 2015.11.29 10:54:00 -
[44] - Quote
lag is why I lost interest in Dust. CCP, upgrade your game to the latest hardware. It's a fun game. Port dust off of PS3. |
benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist
The Empire of New Eden
990
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Posted - 2015.11.29 17:32:00 -
[45] - Quote
Dank memes time
https://i.imgflip.com/uwwd4.jpg
ONE VOICE//ONE COMMUNITY
Support Dust/EvE cross content
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
2
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Posted - 2015.11.29 17:36:00 -
[46] - Quote
Death Shadow117 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Doc Browner wrote:no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
Oki let me clarify few of these: Jumpy MDs - because they push for "blue tonic" they will not have shields (use the antiarmor weaponary, ACR is best for me) lag switch - this works just in P2P games, Dust have one dedicated (but little glitchy) server ergo no lagswitch can work here blackscreens - i did not have one two or three days, it looks resolved (you can leave game and restar anytime) internal errors - every game have these (can you sent me witch one you mean) bailed people - yup and people who likes dust will everytime go back (like myself for example) ERGO Not many issue i see here padawan ;) Internal error he means is when you disconnect but you can still watch the game unfold in front of you
Disconnection are everywhere.
I know we can see more in these days ;)
"Who is postapo?!"
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
Rise Of Legion.
890
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Posted - 2015.11.29 19:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Doc Browner wrote:no future to the game
jumpy mass drivers
lag switches or rubber banding
black screens
internal errors
most people have bailed for other games for the reasons stated
Oki let me clarify few of these: Jumpy MDs - because they push for "blue tonic" they will not have shields (use the antiarmor weaponary, ACR is best for me) lag switch - this works just in P2P games, Dust have one dedicated (but little glitchy) server ergo no lagswitch can work here blackscreens - i did not have one two or three days, it looks resolved (you can leave game and restar anytime) internal errors - every game have these (can you sent me witch one you mean) bailed people - yup and people who likes dust will everytime go back (like myself for example) ERGO Not many issue i see here padawan ;) Internal error he means is when you disconnect but you can still watch the game unfold in front of you Disconnection are everywhere. I know we can see more in these days ;)
It's not the disconnections that bothers people it being able to sit there with a message on your screen saying you've been disconnected but I can still watch the battle happen I can see the kill feed update and reds can still kill my char and I can watch it happen but I can do nothing because there was an "internal error" if I'm disconnected I Damn well expect to not be able to watch the battle still happen |
Scarr Beloxian
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2015.11.29 20:30:00 -
[48] - Quote
this game will die I just know it...silence from devs is always a bad sign
seeking the end is no fun for an immortal
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist
The Empire of New Eden
994
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Posted - 2015.11.29 21:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
Dank memes time
https://i.imgflip.com/ux9nr.jpg
ONE VOICE//ONE COMMUNITY
Support Dust/EvE cross content
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
1
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:43:00 -
[50] - Quote
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
568
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Posted - 2015.11.30 17:35:00 -
[51] - Quote
Tread Loudly 2 wrote:This is just a question I would like answered by the community.
My reasoning for losing interest in Dust isn't the game itself or the dev's. Sure there are things that they could fix that would make the game better but they aren't the main reason in my opinion.
The real reason is the players.
The players "worth their salt" simply follow the FOTM or let blues take bullets for them while they K/D farm. (Players currently playing. Not old n' true vets).
What an odd post. Most of the things you listed are some of the things i dislike about Dust, albeit for different reasons:
"The players camp up high to avoid an actual fight on the point" --> What irks me is players who dont understand why this is happening, they just want it to stop. Its childish. People camp up high usually because the other team has destroyed every single uplink, and has proto squads circling around the bottom. Maybe if you offered a fair fight instead of proto squads vs Stater fit solos, this wouldnt be a problem.
Its like, you think camping up high is not fair, but find it perfectly fair to field proto vs milita.
"The "newer players" want help but refuse to listen" ---> The only advice is "squad up squad up squad up". Thats the only help vets offer. "Well squad up with me and listen to us chat like chicks for hours".
"The Blues in pub matches should almost all be in a sandbox mode fighting AI because they need it" ----> Public contracts is supposed to be the entry level/ casual mode, and yet all the "vets" go there to go full tryhard on the noobs. Maybe if you gave them a chance to actually learn the game, this wouldnt be a problem?
"The players prefer to camp in the red line with a Rail Rifle rather than pushing out" -----> Yeah you destroy all their links, shoot down any vehicles being called in, make a frontline of proto assaults and logis at the exit, and then complain people stay in the red line. Again, another "problem" where you are blaming the victim instead of the person causing it.
"The players quit matches after seeing the enemy team" ---> This one is valid
"The players go to the forums and wine about anything that can find, from Jump mods to re's and then back to alpha damage weapons." ------> coming from the guy who just whined about every coping mechanism new players use to survive in game.
^ The way i see it, its pretty simple. No one wants to be part of the solution, they just want to cause problems and hope that someone else fixes it for them.
If the "vets" changed their habits, and played casual in Pub and serious in FW, most of these problems would solve themselves. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
18
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Posted - 2015.11.30 18:59:00 -
[52] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:The Eristic wrote:Lag and general bugginess.
Predictability (on a related note, lol at the old vets not being fotm chasers).
Silence from CCP.
The PS4 now sitting next to my PS3 ain't gonna help.
^ All of this. CPM2's self-servicing to date -- in combination with Rattati's silence -- hasn't exactly inspired confidence either. DUST needs better fights and better NPE. Not Assault buffs, Swarm nerfs and more vet perks. Come on, guys. Speaking of DUST Jesus, it'd be nice to hear from the big guy every once in awhile. Even if it's only about big picture stuff. A major part of what made DUST interesting (for me, at least) was the sense that we -- the community -- had at least some input in the shaping of the game. Today, that seems to be the CPM's job and their job alone. These guys are more inclined to push for what they want than push for what we need. So why even bother? I'll come back to DUST when player input matters again. For me, Fallout 4 came at just the right time. Self-servicing...?
Prioritizing buffs and nerfs for things that don't really need it while ignoring or downplaying the things that do. For instance, which would've done more good for game balance: fixing GA Logi permascan or buffing GA Assaults?
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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Unholy HateGore
highland marines
113
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Posted - 2015.11.30 19:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
I'm losing interest because I am about fed up with this lagfest of a so called game and super squads of destruction. Hell I played a match where I was at least 5 meters away from a guy shooting him square in the back with a RR saw the hit detection glimmer and he took absolutely NO damage.
I can't believe how good this game looked in promotional videos. This thing looked bad a s s. What we are playing is NOTHING like what was shown. Nothing runs smooth in this game. 2fps is quite ridiculous don't you think? Every other map or match is becoming increasingly more and more hideous. I really love this game but it is beyond me why nothing was ever done to make it a truly GREAT game. Been playing for 3 yrs on what feels no more than a glitchy beta. It could be soooooo much more. |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
522
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Posted - 2015.11.30 20:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Here is why:
I spawn in match solo like I prefer to do. No one pushes the point. I drop link and attempt hack. Usually get it then get rekt'd by a PRO suit. Then come to find out during that time a whole squad left and its down to 10vs14
More peeps leave when they find out the entire opposing team is running pro because they have an advantage.
So then I proceed to leave a lost cause.
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.11.30 21:33:00 -
[55] - Quote
i was losing interest due to bad lag and poor connection, until i finally got fibre, even just basic 10mbps upload speed has changed the game quite a lot and for most part its an enjoyable experience again. i tend to avoid weekends and too late at night (UK) as you get your try hards online but late afternoon/early evening is actually quite pleasant
Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
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SIN Assassin112
M O N S T E R S 6 6 6
14
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Posted - 2015.12.01 01:40:00 -
[56] - Quote
No Agenda and poor Communication with the small community Dust has
I hate the words Soon tm .... Very immature and unprofessional
Where's PVE??? If you propose something then do it.
Game bugs, if you played the game enough you know about them.
*****Match Making**** Major RED FLAG
Instead of creating new SKINS and adding vanity to the game fix issues first.
I've been here since the closed beta, and have spent money. But those are just a few major issues that infuriate me. Can I like be a game tester for you CCP to offer you some guidance?
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:11:00 -
[57] - Quote
I have another reason I am losing interest in this game.
I am seriously getting tired of this ******** about squads getting priority in getting a match.
My favorite gamemode is Acquisition but everytime I get home from work and try to get into an Acquisition match I find myself averaging about 1 match an hour, and sometimes that one match isn't even a full match.
Tonight I was able to get into an Acquisition match that was halfway over within 3 minutes of searching but since then I have not been able to get into any other Acquisition match.
I wouldn't mind joining a squad that is willing to run Acquisition but how the **** do I find that squad? Anytime I try to squad up in Pubs I usually get stuck with people who also want to play Domination and usually when those people see that they are up against people better than them they end up quitting or hiding in the redline the whole match instead of actually ******* trying.
I'm definitely not in the mood to play Skirmish since I have been playing a **** load of FW over the past 4 days and Ambush matches not only end too ******* quickly but most of the people I find myself teamed up with have zero ******* idea how to execute basic ******* strategy.
Hey, CCP...
INCREASE THE CLONE COUNT IN AMBUSH TO 150 FOR ***** SAKE
and
STOP TREATING SOLO PLAYERS LIKE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS
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Bradric Banewolf
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:19:00 -
[58] - Quote
Tread Loudly 2 wrote:This is just a question I would like answered by the community.
My reasoning for losing interest in Dust isn't the game itself or the dev's. Sure there are things that they could fix that would make the game better but they aren't the main reason in my opinion.
The real reason is the players.
The players "worth their salt" simply follow the FOTM or let blues take bullets for them while they K/D farm. (Players currently playing. Not old n' true vets)
The players camp up high to avoid an actual fight on the point
The players spam grenades to avoid a fight.
The bad players follow the "good players" and aspire to become like them rather than their own merc
The "newer players" want help but refuse to listen
The Blues in pub matches should almost all be in a sandbox mode fighting AI because they need it
The players prefer to camp in the red line with a Rail Rifle rather than pushing out
The players quit matches after seeing the enemy team
The players go to the forums and wine about anything that can find, from Jump mods to re's and then back to alpha damage weapons.
o7 I look forward to seeing why you are/have losing/lost interest in Dust.
All you said, and all that the others above said+LAG
Tread you know how dedicated I am to teamplay and the community, but even I have all but #quit514 smh.
I log on for PC's.... that's about all?! It's just so d*mn laggy! Skipping around frame by frame isn't gameplay. Hell whole PC teams have walked away. Pubslol is just vets stomping with FOTM, and noobs quitting cuz there's no point.
I've pretty much vowed to never play in another match that has a latin american player in it cuz ffs the lag!
some more ranting about LAG LAG LAG, and to spare you guys the page of what's wrong with dust...
LAG
I'll play again when it works smh?!
Been real o7
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Thor Odinson42
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:25:00 -
[59] - Quote
I quit because of the match quality. I was accustomed to the lag and the bugs.
It became common for me to not find a single decent match most play sessions. I could stomach this while playing with friends in squads, but then it became less and less common to ever see friends on. |
Zaria Min Deir
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:
If Rattati is relying solely upon CPM2 for feedback on balance issues -- which seems to be the case -- then there's dang near zero point to everyone else's feedback. Good for the self-servicing CPM and their backchannel buddies.
Pretty bold assumptions to make, but you will be happy to learn, incorrect ones. Not that you'll take my word for it, and there is no way for me to really reassure you by any other means without breaking NDA in some way, and even then... oh well, why waste my time?
Have a lovely day.
zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
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Aeon Amadi
13
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
Zaria Min Deir wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
If Rattati is relying solely upon CPM2 for feedback on balance issues -- which seems to be the case -- then there's dang near zero point to everyone else's feedback. Good for the self-servicing CPM and their backchannel buddies.
Pretty bold assumptions to make, but you will be happy to learn, incorrect ones. Not that you'll take my word for it, and there is no way for me to really reassure you by any other means without breaking NDA in some way, and even then... oh well, why waste my time? Have a lovely day.
How awesome would it be if they did balance solely on our feedback though? Think of what we could do with that power! 
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 08:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
Zaria Min Deir wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
If Rattati is relying solely upon CPM2 for feedback on balance issues -- which seems to be the case -- then there's dang near zero point to everyone else's feedback. Good for the self-servicing CPM and their backchannel buddies.
Pretty bold assumptions to make, but you will be happy to learn, incorrect ones. Not that you'll take my word for it, and there is no way for me to really reassure you by any other means without breaking NDA in some way, and even then... oh well, why waste my time? Have a lovely day.
What kind of inside information do you have on this game that you can talk about? Do you have any information that can explain why I have to play the waiting game for several hours just to try to get into a match?
I get home from work and I can get into a full Acquisition match within a few minutes of searching but once that match is over I feel like the game bans me from playing anymore Acquisition. I highly doubt that all the people in the initial match I was able to get into up and decided to stop playing Acquisition all at once.
This is happening to me pretty much every single day, Monday thru Thursday.
For this to happen to me as frequently as it does (4 consecutive days every week) makes no sense to me. Tonight over a span of two hours of queuing Acquisition I was only able to get into one match and it wasn't even a full match. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N
Damage LLC
4
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Posted - 2015.12.01 09:25:00 -
[63] - Quote
I've lost interest in everything.
Disabled in many ways able in much more
MS & GS, CA, Kampo Logi
/Z)/V//V
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Zaria Min Deir
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 10:07:00 -
[64] - Quote
Summa Militum wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
If Rattati is relying solely upon CPM2 for feedback on balance issues -- which seems to be the case -- then there's dang near zero point to everyone else's feedback. Good for the self-servicing CPM and their backchannel buddies.
Pretty bold assumptions to make, but you will be happy to learn, incorrect ones. Not that you'll take my word for it, and there is no way for me to really reassure you by any other means without breaking NDA in some way, and even then... oh well, why waste my time? Have a lovely day. What kind of inside information do you have on this game that you can talk about? Do you have any information that can explain why I have to play the waiting game for several hours just to try to get into a match? I get home from work and I can get into a full Acquisition match within a few minutes of searching but once that match is over I feel like the game bans me from playing anymore Acquisition. I highly doubt that all the people in the initial match I was able to get into up and decided to stop playing Acquisition all at once. This is happening to me pretty much every single day, Monday thru Thursday. For this to happen to me as frequently as it does (4 consecutive days every week) makes no sense to me. Tonight over a span of two hours of queuing Acquisition I was only able to get into one match and it wasn't even a full match.
No, I unfortunately have no way of knowing how that would come about, and I certainly am not an expert on the matchmaking logic of any game, let alone Dust. But I can say that while wait times are sometimes unbearably long, what you're describing should not be happening, and it would certainly be in the game's best interest for the Devs to investigate what's going on there.
Now, I can't promise it would lead to anything, but may I request you send in a support ticket with your character name, the approximate times of battles and queueing, and any other pertinent details, and ask them to look into what is going on behind the scenes?
The main issue with pubs in general is that unfortunately, Dom is by far the most popular game mode (don't ask me why, I don't get it personally), and thus it can be really hard to get into any other game mode, particularly outside of peak hours. :(
zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
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jdom503
Vangaurds of the Phoenix
33
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Posted - 2015.12.01 11:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
I'm starting to loose interest because
The same old same old. Same maps, same set ups. Nothing really new in a long time.
Many of my friends are on PS4 and I too have one myself. I've been playing with a core group in fps games since Rainbow 6 Vegas and when the PS4 came out they bailed out on this game.
Not sure what direction this game is taking. Back in beta there was excitement with the possibilities for this venture. We can take whole world's as ours. We would have huge space battles raging over our heads fought on the PC/Eve side while we rage war on our PS3s. We could choose from 1000 maps to fight for. Not so and never will be the case. Sadly the true potential of this game has failed. The only true way to even come close is to port it to next gen and take the next step. Not going to happen tho. If I knew this game will be here in the future then I would spend $$ again but can't since it mostly be spent on a close to dead game in which this is.
I continue to play because I still have fun and have made some good friends that don't have next gen yet. |
Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
569
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Posted - 2015.12.01 18:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
Zaria Min Deir wrote:
The main issue with pubs in general is that unfortunately, Dom is by far the most popular game mode (don't ask me why, I don't get it personally), and thus it can be really hard to get into any other game mode, particularly outside of peak hours. :(
It fits the main desire of the regulars. People that play games alot, "grinding", if you will, get into the habit of prioritizing earnings and maximizing the time it takes to accumulate them.
Before the changes to vehicles and squads, Ambush was their preferred mode because its a quick game with good pay, especially if the other team has no chance.
Now, if they are going to play an objective mode, Dom is the obvious choice. With Skirm, people have to guard different points, attacks come from all over, the game can be drawn out by a few good lone wolfs who keep the flanking going.
With Dom, its either guard or attack one point. Almost everyone in that game will go to the point. Maps arent very big so travel time is minimal. Depending on the socket, vehicle impact can be minimal or negated, as having air support or good AV can keep the enemy vehicles far from the only fight.
If you want to increase interest in other modes, up the pay. People follow the money.
*DISCLAIMER: When i say people that "play games alot, grinding", its not meant in a negative context. I have grinded many games. |
Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
450
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Posted - 2015.12.01 18:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
I lost interest in this game because of the player base.
As it happens, all the people who made the game worth playing and enjoyable have moved on to PS4 or PC for better gaming experiences.
All that is left are the whiney little bitches who cry nerf this and buff that because they want what they like to be top dog on the battlefield. They are the ones who sit here and say "lets make NPE something worth something" then turn around and are actually the ones making it unbearable for new players. These people are the ones who hop on a bandwagon because actually doing stuff on their own is too much work and they just want to flash their t.itties and have a good time.
That and my PS4 has prettier games.
I do occasionally play Dust but it is at times unbearable.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
13
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Posted - 2015.12.01 18:58:00 -
[68] - Quote
I believe I would fall into the "losing interest" category. Why?
- PS3 is dead/dying
- Dust's development cadence is slow
- Communication from CCP Shanghai has taken a nosedive
- Poorly implemented monetization (LOL $10 SKINs)
- No PvE or manufacturing/industry content
Become the phoenix, rise again
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.12.01 19:08:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:I believe I would fall into the "losing interest" category. Why?
- PS3 is dead/dying
- Dust's development cadence is slow
- Communication from CCP Shanghai has taken a nosedive
- Poorly implemented monetization (LOL $10 SKINs)
also its moved over to a more Pay to Win mode now that the Lab doesn't produce officer weapons.
Now the only way to get a reasonable amount of any kind of officer gear is from strongboxes, yes we can get it from EOM salvage but really how often does that happen these days?
If someone has an extra $10 a week to spend on opening strongboxes then they will get far more officer gear than someone who isn't. CCP in their own words have said that the officer gear is very powerful which is why they removed it from the lab.
Thankfully though DUST is at such a stage that not many people are gonna be spending that $10 a week cos they've moved on to better pastures, but then there are some tryhards who feel the need to 'be better' than everyone and will splash the cash.
Also though i think we should just be able to trade all items, the PS3 (and thus dust) life is coming to an end. This holiday season more players will be treated to an XB1 or PS4 and our playerbase will shrink, its always a good sign that a console is all but done with when the latest FIFA/NBA/NFL/COD is either missed or scaled back and i think that CCP should just let us trade all our goods we have that may be on alts or from friends who no longer play ect and just let us go out with a huge bang. all them AUR modules and items everyone has just sitting in assets n the hope we'll be able to trade them soon, all the other bpos and boosters ect. just lets all have a bloody good old time splashing the isk and burning through everything we have lol
Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
452
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Posted - 2015.12.01 20:26:00 -
[70] - Quote
Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:also its moved over to a more Pay to Win mode now that the Lab doesn't produce officer weapons.
Now the only way to get a reasonable amount of any kind of officer gear is from strongboxes, yes we can get it from EOM salvage but really how often does that happen these days?
If someone has an extra $10 a week to spend on opening strongboxes then they will get far more officer gear than someone who isn't. CCP in their own words have said that the officer gear is very powerful which is why they removed it from the lab.
Thankfully though DUST is at such a stage that not many people are gonna be spending that $10 a week cos they've moved on to better pastures, but then there are some tryhards who feel the need to 'be better' than everyone and will splash the cash.
Also though i think we should just be able to trade all items, the PS3 (and thus dust) life is coming to an end. This holiday season more players will be treated to an XB1 or PS4 and our playerbase will shrink, its always a good sign that a console is all but done with when the latest FIFA/NBA/NFL/COD is either missed or scaled back and i think that CCP should just let us trade all our goods we have that may be on alts or from friends who no longer play ect and just let us go out with a huge bang. all them AUR modules and items everyone has just sitting in assets n the hope we'll be able to trade them soon, all the other bpos and boosters ect. just lets all have a bloody good old time splashing the isk and burning through everything we have lol
The playerbase actually won't shrink. Logic states it will flourish (potentially anyway)
Last year Sony built a PS3 factory/warehouse in Brazil. There is a strong number of the population in Brazil that has moved into a classification of sort of upper middle class-ish. What this means is that more PS3's will be bought this holiday season in Brazil, increasing the presence and population in the Latin-American community. Why do you think our numbers have been pretty steady since last year?
There was a massive drop in numbers from where they were at, but they've held steady for quite some time.
Just food for thought.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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psyanyde
154
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Posted - 2015.12.01 21:06:00 -
[71] - Quote
Game in general is ****
>Problems persist that've been around since 2013 and some even before the lolofficial release
>Over monetization of stuff
>All game modes are ******* meaningless
>Half assed thrown together events
>No real substantial development but when/if stuff does come out it breaks stuff or renews old problems
> basically in a perpetual state of being an alpha/beta for vaporware
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Gydian Dubois
Horizons' Edge
658
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Posted - 2015.12.01 21:51:00 -
[72] - Quote
zDemoncake wrote:My losing of interest towards Dust revolves around:
- CCP silence
- Terrain and weapon glitches that have been around for quite some time, such as the RR misfire.
- A matchmaking system that starts most games with uneven teams.
Another thing that annoys me are random team mates in pubs / FW that aren't worth anything. They do not contribute anything positive towards the team, or helping establish a win.
I'm only here because of the friendships with my corp mates / social features of Dust.
Perry much this. As of now, I have literally played maybe ten times in over two months. As others said, it's the lack of decent battles anymore. I used to enjoy the battles where it was a constant back and forth, fighting tooth and nail to just out do th other team. Didn't care if I won or if I lost. It was the hellacious battle that kept me playing. Now? It's automatically either full proto, redliners or ignorant blueberries. You can only do so much as one person. Then there is the unrealistic amount of times where you're firing, even headshots, and nothing is registering. Or like the last battle I ran, running as a heavy, emptied half of my clip from an HMG, no damage at all in to a adv assault suit. Rubberbanding, server overload, the list goes on. And, yes, the silence from CCP nowadays. Even just as far back as this past spring and summer, there was at least more communication between CCP and the community. Now it's non existent basically. It's skin here, minor tweak here, sale there, etc. Main reason why I even play anymore, on the off chance I do, is because of the social aspect. It's the friends I've made while being here. But even that can't convince me to play much anymore.
Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.12.02 00:11:00 -
[73] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:also its moved over to a more Pay to Win mode now that the Lab doesn't produce officer weapons.
Now the only way to get a reasonable amount of any kind of officer gear is from strongboxes, yes we can get it from EOM salvage but really how often does that happen these days?
If someone has an extra $10 a week to spend on opening strongboxes then they will get far more officer gear than someone who isn't. CCP in their own words have said that the officer gear is very powerful which is why they removed it from the lab.
Thankfully though DUST is at such a stage that not many people are gonna be spending that $10 a week cos they've moved on to better pastures, but then there are some tryhards who feel the need to 'be better' than everyone and will splash the cash.
Also though i think we should just be able to trade all items, the PS3 (and thus dust) life is coming to an end. This holiday season more players will be treated to an XB1 or PS4 and our playerbase will shrink, its always a good sign that a console is all but done with when the latest FIFA/NBA/NFL/COD is either missed or scaled back and i think that CCP should just let us trade all our goods we have that may be on alts or from friends who no longer play ect and just let us go out with a huge bang. all them AUR modules and items everyone has just sitting in assets n the hope we'll be able to trade them soon, all the other bpos and boosters ect. just lets all have a bloody good old time splashing the isk and burning through everything we have lol The playerbase actually won't shrink. Logic states it will flourish (potentially anyway) Last year Sony built a PS3 factory/warehouse in Brazil. There is a strong number of the population in Brazil that has moved into a classification of sort of upper middle class-ish. What this means is that more PS3's will be bought this holiday season in Brazil, increasing the presence and population in the Latin-American community. Why do you think our numbers have been pretty steady since last year? There was a massive drop in numbers from where they were at, but they've held steady for quite some time. Just food for thought.
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Gyn Wallace
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
361
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Posted - 2015.12.02 00:27:00 -
[74] - Quote
Summa Militum wrote:...
As for CCP, I have a big problem with how little they care about people being scammed in this game. I understand CCP is all about trying to create content for the game but allowing scamming to the degree that it is at is absolute ********. CCP could have worked to implement the same type of trading system that you see in Eve but instead they put together a very simple trading system that allows scamming which in turn brings about very negative consequences.
Its worse than CCP doing nothing to inhibit scamming. They implemented restrictions on isk transfers, inhibiting people like me, who ran escrow services and exchanges between Dust and Eve, making it harder for decent players who took the trouble to make work-arounds for their failure to code a trustworthy trading system.
I started a break from Dust and Eve at the beginning of the Summer, and just popped onto the forum to check in, to see if CCP had implemented anything that would get me to turn on my ps3 and reactivate my Eve Online account. But I'm not seeing anything to lure me back in, which is too bad because when Dust wasn't being terrible (for the various reasons filling this thread) it was great. The close fights that were won because our coms had discipline and the squads were filled with people who knew their roles, are some of the best games I've ever been in, in or out of Dust514. Some of the goofing around matches with hilarious chatter were excellent as well. But those excellent matches have been too rare to stick it out in a game with fundamental design errors, like
#1 Making the turn rate contingent on the frame rate. That's partly just me though; I can't aim without a mouse, and Dust doesn't *really* support mouse aiming. (or at least it didn't at the beginning of the Summer, I haven't played for months) It supports a crappy, semi-emulation, that I've never really gotten the hang of. So I can play any PC FPS where I can occasionally get a top score from shooting people in the face, or try Dust again, where I was never able to shoot well.
#2 The link to Eve remained a gimmick. I built more of a link to Eve Online through my currency exchange, than CCP ever built. Its possible, but I'd be shocked if the sum value of all equipment destroyed by orbitals exceeded the value of the currency that moved through my exchange. And I wasn't the only player to run an exchange, or even the oldest exchange. CCP really dropped the ball. (Or has this changed in the past five months? I don't know.)
I hope I run into the people I played with here in other games though. The people in Dust were awesome. Although, prior to Dust I played Eve Online mostly, so that's a really really low standard. :D
-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo
P.S. Shout out to Zaria! I think the last time I was logged on I was voting for you and Cross and Pokey. If I do ever turn on my PS3 again, it'll be to hang out with you guys.
P.P.S. Do we have a new corp name again, wth?! :D
The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
332
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Posted - 2015.12.02 04:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
How about why I have not lose interest in dust yet.
Love shooting people. I think I'm getting better.
Love camping. Specially in high places.
Love ambushing people. Light dropsuit is my favorite targets.
Love chasing tanks. Specially those with hardeners. They replenish armor back.
Love sniping. Counter sniping is my hobby.
So please port dust514 now.
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
Vehicle request accepted.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.12.02 06:20:00 -
[76] - Quote
Anaheim Darko wrote:I'm losing interest in Dust because Dust seems to have lost interest in us. #portdust514
Well said.
PSN: RationalSpark
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game
295
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Posted - 2015.12.02 12:21:00 -
[77] - Quote
No words on amarr and minmaturd tanks.
No Maurder or Enforcer tanks.
Heat sink will bug your large rail turrent.
Maddies to fast.
Blaster turrent dispertion is ****,acuracy replaced with luck.
No turrent variations.
Tanks limited to 1 or 2 fits that actualy work
Low base hp on tanks.
No module variation. (bf4 tanks  )
To high TTK
Some players can strafe and teleport or simply not taking dmg.
Matchmaking LOL.
Assault Dropships are ****.
Sniper camping f4gs.
Rooftop camping!!!!!!
People running Mlt fits.
Core Locus Granade.
Sqads in pub matches with proto alowed,worst thing in this game.
LAG LAG LAG and LAG
And I hawe PS4, Destiny,DS 2 and Batllefield 4 that is 1000% better than this mess.
Tank pilot
Still waiting 4 Surya <3
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.12.02 12:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
Lol, no. It's the effing mechanics. Player interest and participation follows.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
453
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Posted - 2015.12.02 14:42:00 -
[79] - Quote
Summa Militum wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:also its moved over to a more Pay to Win mode now that the Lab doesn't produce officer weapons.
Now the only way to get a reasonable amount of any kind of officer gear is from strongboxes, yes we can get it from EOM salvage but really how often does that happen these days?
If someone has an extra $10 a week to spend on opening strongboxes then they will get far more officer gear than someone who isn't. CCP in their own words have said that the officer gear is very powerful which is why they removed it from the lab.
Thankfully though DUST is at such a stage that not many people are gonna be spending that $10 a week cos they've moved on to better pastures, but then there are some tryhards who feel the need to 'be better' than everyone and will splash the cash.
Also though i think we should just be able to trade all items, the PS3 (and thus dust) life is coming to an end. This holiday season more players will be treated to an XB1 or PS4 and our playerbase will shrink, its always a good sign that a console is all but done with when the latest FIFA/NBA/NFL/COD is either missed or scaled back and i think that CCP should just let us trade all our goods we have that may be on alts or from friends who no longer play ect and just let us go out with a huge bang. all them AUR modules and items everyone has just sitting in assets n the hope we'll be able to trade them soon, all the other bpos and boosters ect. just lets all have a bloody good old time splashing the isk and burning through everything we have lol The playerbase actually won't shrink. Logic states it will flourish (potentially anyway) Last year Sony built a PS3 factory/warehouse in Brazil. There is a strong number of the population in Brazil that has moved into a classification of sort of upper middle class-ish. What this means is that more PS3's will be bought this holiday season in Brazil, increasing the presence and population in the Latin-American community. Why do you think our numbers have been pretty steady since last year? There was a massive drop in numbers from where they were at, but they've held steady for quite some time. Just food for thought. So you're telling me the lag is going to get worse?
That's actually a pretty common misconception. Someone somewhere at one time was having a laggy day and decided to be racist, then the joke of a playerbase fell into suit with that. I play vs and with people from all other countries (including spanish speaking ones) and from what I see and what I know the lag has nothing to do with them. They lag just as much as everyone else does.
What that myth comes down to is a bunch of idiots being racist.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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hn617
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2015.12.02 14:53:00 -
[80] - Quote
I got a ps4 and haven't come back since, even though I thought I would. I'm sure the only new things are maybe more skins that I don't care about and even less people trying to fight the stompers. Just not worth it. |
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Zaria Min Deir
CASSETTE 514
1
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Posted - 2015.12.02 15:24:00 -
[81] - Quote
Gyn Wallace wrote:Summa Militum wrote:...
As for CCP, I have a big problem with how little they care about people being scammed in this game. I understand CCP is all about trying to create content for the game but allowing scamming to the degree that it is at is absolute ********. CCP could have worked to implement the same type of trading system that you see in Eve but instead they put together a very simple trading system that allows scamming which in turn brings about very negative consequences. Its worse than CCP doing nothing to inhibit scamming. They implemented restrictions on isk transfers, inhibiting people like me, who ran escrow services and exchanges between Dust and Eve, making it harder for decent players who took the trouble to make work-arounds for their failure to code a trustworthy trading system. I started a break from Dust and Eve at the beginning of the Summer, and just popped onto the forum to check in, to see if CCP had implemented anything that would get me to turn on my ps3 and reactivate my Eve Online account. But I'm not seeing anything to lure me back in, which is too bad because when Dust wasn't being terrible (for the various reasons filling this thread) it was great. The close fights that were won because our coms had discipline and the squads were filled with people who knew their roles, are some of the best games I've ever been in, in or out of Dust514. Some of the goofing around matches with hilarious chatter were excellent as well. But those excellent matches have been too rare to stick it out in a game with fundamental design errors, like #1 Making the turn rate contingent on the frame rate. That's partly just me though; I can't aim without a mouse, and Dust doesn't *really* support mouse aiming. (or at least it didn't at the beginning of the Summer, I haven't played for months) It supports a crappy, semi-emulation, that I've never really gotten the hang of. So I can play any PC FPS where I can occasionally get a top score from shooting people in the face, or try Dust again, where I was never able to shoot well. #2 The link to Eve remained a gimmick. I built more of a link to Eve Online through my currency exchange, than CCP ever built. Its possible, but I'd be shocked if the sum value of all equipment destroyed by orbitals exceeded the value of the currency that moved through my exchange. And I wasn't the only player to run an exchange, or even the oldest exchange. CCP really dropped the ball. (Or has this changed in the past five months? I don't know.) I hope I run into the people I played with here in other games though. The people in Dust were awesome. Although, prior to Dust I played Eve Online mostly, so that's a really really low standard. :D -Gyn Wallace/Min Lo P.S. Shout out to Zaria! I think the last time I was logged on I was voting for you and Cross and Pokey. If I do ever turn on my PS3 again, it'll be to hang out with you guys. P.P.S. Do we have a new corp name again, wth?! :D
Gyyyyyyyn Gyn Gyn Gyn Gyn Gyyyyyn!!!!! <3
Miss you, do turn on your PS3 sometime ^-^
zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
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Bradric Banewolf
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.12.02 15:45:00 -
[82] - Quote
LudiKure ninda wrote:No words on amarr and minmaturd tanks. No Maurder or Enforcer tanks. Heat sink will bug your large rail turrent. Maddies to fast. Blaster turrent dispertion is ****,acuracy replaced with luck.No turrent variations. Tanks limited to 1 or 2 fits that actualy work Low base hp on tanks. No module variation. (bf4 tanks ) To high TTK Some players can strafe and teleport or simply not taking dmg. Matchmaking LOL. Assault Dropships are ****. Sniper camping f4gs. Rooftop camping!!!!!!People running Mlt fits. Core Locus Granade. Sqads in pub matches with proto alowed,worst thing in this game. **** maps!!! LAG LAG LAG and LAG And I hawe PS4, Destiny,DS 2 and Batllefield 4 that is 1000% better than this mess.
This is a big one! WTF is this?
Some players can strafe and teleport or simply not taking dmg.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
188
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Posted - 2015.12.02 19:26:00 -
[83] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:I'll be on for the event tomorrow. Im having a blast wrecking elite players in Hardline on my ps4 yet Im a n00b.
Dark and Omega squaded with you last night in battlefront they weren't sure if you noticed. I've been FO4 lately, I broke from Metal Gear after breaking into a Top 100 player spot. I'll get battlefront loaded, but I'm headed for Rainbow Six on release-keep looking at Wildlands and cannot wait! The original Ghost Recon was loaded on Cadet pc's @ West Point and UBI is actively seeking input from the old guys that played the original game online competitively-hopefully.
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