This is your opinion and I respect that. Since there is someone else in this topic that has a different one, I don't see a problem but just a discussion.
If the problem arises we'll fix it. Trust me if you can.

Jita will tell...

I guess these guys didn't read my description of a real pay-to-win mmorpg dc universe online , go play that then come back and post and see if you still think it's goingnto be a p2w , when we are still in closed beta

There are worse examples out there. But just a little pay to win, is still pay to win!

I say again CLOSED BETA , EARLY VERSION what part of that don't you guys get , they will tweak some things in future versions

And I say IT DOESN'T MATTER that it is a beta!

AUR is there, pay to win is there. Without us telling them to can it, it will still be there when DUST goes live!

I say again CLOSED BETA , EARLY VERSION what part of that don't you guys get , they will tweak some things in future versions

Dude aur gear have a disadvantage , and aur items when they game releases will be able to buy aur gear with ISK , so describe how is it pay to win

yes and the reason for this thread is so they can tweak some things for later version, you making this post helps in no way to the discussion at hand.... I made this thread because I thought this was something that needed to be addressed because like you said it is a closed beta.



Again this has not been confirmed or even hinted at anywhere on the forums or blogs or features or at E3? so consistently bringing it up is not really helping much.

Guys I bought a Proto Suit and loaded it with proto mods and proto weapons with ISK this game is pay2win.

I think even if market goes live, people aren't going to be selling AUR bought items for isk, unless they sold for a huge premium like the GTC / PLEX system in Eve. It could be a way of paying real money to buy a large and market variable amount of isk.
From this point of view it could work, but just as a means to charge real money for the best possible fitting I don't agree with that.

Dude aur gear have a disadvantage

NeX items are being sold on the market in EVE as well, but the prices are just about 1 isk short of insanity.

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Name ONE!

The fact that aur gear has less slots , and does the word side grades ring a bell not upgrades if you want to test it out how about next time the game is up I'll put on my assualt type one fit with militia mods breach rifle and breach pistol and let's see who wins (I will) then I'm rub it in yo face , also I think you've been playing cod too much , being that this is a team based game many that teamwork beats all , so 1 man with aur gear won't change anything on the field

Again this has not been confirmed or even hinted at anywhere on the forums or blogs or features or at E3? so consistently bringing it up is not really helping much.

Others:
GÇó Market & Inventory is now Integrated with EVE Online systems

What part of AUR and ISK items are NOT equal don't you get?

It IS a beta, but it is also showing the intention of CCP, else it would NOT be here.

Just to repeat, again. some AUR items have a dramatically lower CPU/PG demands (30-50% lower), and/or somewhat higher stats for DPS/Shield/range etc. (5-10% is not minor btw)

THAT IS NOT EQUAL!

From an article in Penny Arcade Report from an interview with Atli M+ír Sveinsson, the creative director of Dust:

"The markets of EVE Online and Dust 514 will also be linked."

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/fanfest-feature/2

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Eve has an active player market that includes trading AUR items bought in the NEX store and selling them to other players for ISK. Dust is part of the Eve universe its market will work like Eve's unless CCP has a massive departure from how they allow player markets to run. This is not supposition or speculation but actual observation of the Eve market that CCP currently has going.


Another quote from Forbes from an interview with CCP Games CEO Hilmar P+¬tursson:

"The key trick is in balancing the economies. The side-by-sides of a price of a gun in DUST 514 which you can hold in your immortal hands and a ship in EVE thatGÇÖs the size of a city are the tricky things to get right. This is why we start carefully on that front in the beginning and then open it up as we gain understanding of how the ecosystem will behave over time with players in the mix."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/


The Eve and Dust markets will be linked the only thing that is not confirmed is the time-frame.

Edit:

After some thought I came to this conclusion:

I think that being able to buy Aurum items with ISK will alleviate a lot of the problems, however we all need to carefully look at the items and do a cool and calculated examination of the AUR items compared to their ISK counterparts. I think we may need to create some stats spreadsheets and whatnot to really get an objective comparison. My personal belief is that its not an issue if Aur items create some kind of advantage, but an unfair advantage.

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Name ONE!

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Name ONE!

I'm all for adding things to the game that people can buy with real money, I personally would rather buy sweet disco balls and lava lamps for my Merc Quarters.

GM's, especially super bro tier GM Unicorn, PLEASE LET ME PAY YOU REAL MONEY FOR DISCO BALLS AND LAVA LAMPS.

Do laps around the couch in the Merc Quarters. When you reach a pre-set number of laps, a value only known by CCP, you will have officially beaten Dust514.

They actually let you pay for your subscription with currency earned in game. Eve is all about risk vs. reward. There were some videos of groups of players taking down other groups using only the basic ships.

And in case you missed it the first time, you can pay for your game subscription with money you earn in game. Even EVE is free to play.

Yep. I have two accounts and I haven't paid a dime for them in over 6 months, its done all with ISK.

The item is called PLEX, and people can buy it from CCP for like $15-20. PLEX can be either converted into AUR to buy premium items, used to add 30 days to your account's game time, or sold on the open market where other players can buy it for ISK. I make enough ISK every month in EVE to buy two PLEX which I use to add 30 days to both of my characters.

Its not that I'm playing EVE for free, I'm simply using ISK to pay someone else to pay for my accounts. The same will go for items in Dust, its not that I'm getting the AUR items for free, I'm simply using ISK to pay someone else to buy the items for me. Either way CCP gets their money, which is why they'll allow this system in Dust as well.