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KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 297	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:20:00 - [1] - Quote As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:40:00 - [2] - Quote Its just bull how some corps make numbers such as, kdr ***** a stupid requirement. Its just a number and that's it. Nothing else. My kd isn't the best but in the end I just simply don't care. Its a game not a sport. Gaming I'm general should never and I mean Never become a sport. Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 621	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:55:00 - [3] - Quote My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
ZED Regent RabbitGang 13 COILS 554	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:59:00 - [4] - Quote IDGAF about KDR... For me it's all about fun... Most of the times I'm a logi... But sometimes i just derp around in a shitfit for funz... ... port Dust 514... Hangovers for everybody!
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 300	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:59:00 - [5] - Quote Gydian Dubois wrote: My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. insert thank you gif That's honestly exactly how I feel Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 300	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: IDGAF about KDR... For me it's all about fun... Most of the times I'm a logi... But sometimes i just derp around in a shitfit for funz... Yup, you sound just like me Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 622	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:19:00 - [7] - Quote Trust me, I've had plenty of verbal arguments about KDR with people. But fact is, the guy, say going 2/12 but repping, reviving, etc, with thousands of WP, is a bigger asset to the team than someone going 20/2 but with only thousand WP. Yes that guy with the high KDR played a part but so did that logi who died doing so much. Why I say it's a team thing. Not KDR. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:32:00 - [8] - Quote ^ Amen. The only role I played in this event was the Gal proto logi and wow it is awesome. With the logi I seem to earn around 1500 to 2000+ alone but with a squad = much more fun. I rather rep, throw uplinks, ammo and scan. Many responsibilities I have to take. In the end all it matters is to have fun. Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 300	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:37:00 - [9] - Quote Gydian Dubois wrote: Trust me, I've had plenty of verbal arguments about KDR with people. But fact is, the guy, say going 2/12 but repping, reviving, etc, with thousands of WP, is a bigger asset to the team than someone going 20/2 but with only thousand WP. Yes that guy with the high KDR played a part but so did that logi who died doing so much. Why I say it's a team thing. Not KDR. A thousand times yes Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 78	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:46:00 - [10] - Quote i've run logi for most of the time, once in the second place on world wp list, my KDR stay at 3. my role in pc always logi, but i died less than 5 times, theres no need to go 2/20 if ur a logi...n KDR definitely matters.... the higher KDR u get, the better ur skill is...dying is not a job for logi looking for nomad vx1~ pm me

KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 301	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:07:00 - [11] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i've run logi for most of the time, once in the second place on world wp list, my KDR stay at 3. my role in pc always logi, but i died less than 5 times, theres no need to go 2/20 if ur a logi...n KDR definitely matters.... the higher KDR u get, the better ur skill is...dying is not a job for logi If it means saving another players life it is. And killing is far from a logis job aswell Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 623	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:21:00 - [12] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i've run logi for most of the time, once in the second place on world wp list, my KDR stay at 3. my role in pc always logi, but i died less than 5 times, theres no need to go 2/20 if ur a logi...n KDR definitely matters.... the higher KDR u get, the better ur skill is...dying is not a job for logi Jack, Jack, Jack...... myself in PC, my max deaths for a match was six. I also was running a speed scout made of glass. However, I was running between points constantly, dropping uplinks, hacking, etc. So yea I died. But what I did, that alone, helped us win PC. Second, no one said 2/20. I've never seen a logi go twenty deaths. My lifetime is low. I catch crap for it all the time. However, 90% of the time, I'm using glass scouts and also towards the top of each battle in WP alone. Now, as a logi, yea most WP I have ever had is being one. If I had ran a solo squad (ability to drop OB and WB), could have easily called a major WB myself. In fact that battle as a logi (my highest ever), our squad had a combined 12,000 WP. But here is the thing, KDR does not dictate skill. You can have a high KDR, but cower as a hit and run tanker (duma) or a sniper (too many to name). Skill is what you do as a whole in a battle, not how many you kill. Case and point, a know of quite a few players who somehow get in to battles where the highest rank they face is Private or PFC. They'll go 40/0, equating to a high KDR. That take skill? No, not really. Not when it's people straight out of Academy. But, it's fine. Opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one. And the KDR debate will rage on until the day the servers for Dust die. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 623	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:22:00 - [13] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i've run logi for most of the time, once in the second place on world wp list, my KDR stay at 3. my role in pc always logi, but i died less than 5 times, theres no need to go 2/20 if ur a logi...n KDR definitely matters.... the higher KDR u get, the better ur skill is...dying is not a job for logi If it means saving another players life it is. And killing is far from a logis job aswell This as well. Unless you're setup as a slayer logi, being a logi isn't about killing. It's about support for the whole team. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 78	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:41:00 - [14] - Quote i pick up teammates, rep, link, scan.... i think i do support the team... n i agree that kill is not the main job of logi, but y dont kill if u can(after u do wat logi should do )??? killing is also helping teammates to me. just sharing wat i feel when being logi. peace. i saw some logi go 1/10 ... or 0/10...== i think a slayer logi is a better choice mayb.... i suck at scout so i cant say anything about that..... watever, the way i play logi saves my KDR n get me into a corp looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
ZED Regent RabbitGang 13 COILS 555	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:51:00 - [15] - Quote What I do care about is staying isk positive... Being a logi is quite expensive, if you die too much it will cost you a lot... Since 2 months i've been running mostly proto GalLogi even in pubs (scrubby me), but just to have better equipment with me.... (and a little more tank). ... port Dust 514... Hangovers for everybody!
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 304	Posted - 2015.10.28 07:54:00 - [16] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: What I do care about is staying isk positive... Being a logi is quite expensive, if you die too much it will cost you a lot... Since 2 months i've been running mostly proto GalLogi even in pubs (scrubby me), but just to have better equipment with me.... (and a little more tank). Personally I don't care about isk losses. I have enough isk Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 80	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:01:00 - [17] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: What I do care about is staying isk positive... Being a logi is quite expensive, if you die too much it will cost you a lot... Since 2 months i've been running mostly proto GalLogi even in pubs (scrubby me), but just to have better equipment with me.... (and a little more tank). u got to know, full proto equipment may cost ur mk0 150k, but it can definitely make u more isk,( but this is for pc in pub, mk0 is not really needed to me= = run pro logi in pub wont make profit unless u got super slayer teammate. pro logi didnt make u rep faster or any bonus looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
ZED Regent RabbitGang 13 COILS 556	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:09:00 - [18] - Quote Currently at 96 mill. isk. I only did 2 pc's till now... Have bought 4 apex suits with isk for about 160 mill. isk. I can fit better uplinks , hives, scanner and a needle... ... port Dust 514... Hangovers for everybody!
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 628	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:11:00 - [19] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i pick up teammates, rep, link, scan.... i think i do support the team... n i agree that kill is not the main job of logi, but y dont kill if u can(after u do wat logi should do )??? killing is also helping teammates to me. just sharing wat i feel when being logi. peace. i saw some logi go 1/10 ... or 0/10...== i think a slayer logi is a better choice mayb.... i suck at scout so i cant say anything about that..... watever, the way i play logi saves my KDR n get me into a corp Don't get me wrong, not jabbing at you Jack. Not by any means. And I agree, as a logi, if you get the chance to kill, by all means do it. My logi is set up as a slayer. All equipment is proto as well. Personally, I'm a much better scout than anything. As a sniper (while I originally was), I'm extremely deadly. But as a scout, there is a drawback to all that speed, even using a Scotsman. It's glass. With the uptick in AHMG, BAR, etc, no scout can last long. It's speed is unparalleled (though I have a Gallente Commando with a sprint of 8 or more) but, again, the scout can't take much damage. You'll usually die more in one than any other thing. Probably why my KDR hovers. Side note: Another reason why I die more sometimes is this. Other night, I had a squad with Corp. Five times I died protecting a squad member, me taking the damage, allowing them to fight on. But, again, it's just part of what I do for my team. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 628	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:16:00 - [20] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: What I do care about is staying isk positive... Being a logi is quite expensive, if you die too much it will cost you a lot... Since 2 months i've been running mostly proto GalLogi even in pubs (scrubby me), but just to have better equipment with me.... (and a little more tank). Yes and no. Being a logi can get expensive. I agree. But it's also been proven, the higher your WP (along with what you damage or destroyed in suits, weapons, etc), the higher your payout. But it's worth it. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen

Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 81	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:22:00 - [21] - Quote Gydian Dubois wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i pick up teammates, rep, link, scan.... i think i do support the team... n i agree that kill is not the main job of logi, but y dont kill if u can(after u do wat logi should do )??? killing is also helping teammates to me. just sharing wat i feel when being logi. peace. i saw some logi go 1/10 ... or 0/10...== i think a slayer logi is a better choice mayb.... i suck at scout so i cant say anything about that..... watever, the way i play logi saves my KDR n get me into a corp Don't get me wrong, not jabbing at you Jack. Not by any means. And I agree, as a logi, if you get the chance to kill, by all means do it. My logi is set up as a slayer. All equipment is proto as well. Personally, I'm a much better scout than anything. As a sniper (while I originally was), I'm extremely deadly. But as a scout, there is a drawback to all that speed, even using a Scotsman. It's glass. With the uptick in AHMG, BAR, etc, no scout can last long. It's speed is unparalleled (though I have a Gallente Commando with a sprint of 8 or more) but, again, the scout can't take much damage. You'll usually die more in one than any other thing. Probably why my KDR hovers. Side note: Another reason why I die more sometimes is this. Other night, I had a squad with Corp. Five times I died protecting a squad member, me taking the damage, allowing them to fight on. But, again, it's just part of what I do for my team. i use scout only when get redlined, i 'll go drop some link with cloaky scout. watever.... i just suck at scout somehow, i can kill anyone with butter knife, little lag **** up my shot gun, i just dont know how to use scout TAT but i think im pretty good at logi:) scouts r not good nowadays.... thats true. n most of the kill i get in pc is from scout XD scout is dead when they r seen :( looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 629	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:42:00 - [22] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: i pick up teammates, rep, link, scan.... i think i do support the team... n i agree that kill is not the main job of logi, but y dont kill if u can(after u do wat logi should do )??? killing is also helping teammates to me. just sharing wat i feel when being logi. peace. i saw some logi go 1/10 ... or 0/10...== i think a slayer logi is a better choice mayb.... i suck at scout so i cant say anything about that..... watever, the way i play logi saves my KDR n get me into a corp Don't get me wrong, not jabbing at you Jack. Not by any means. And I agree, as a logi, if you get the chance to kill, by all means do it. My logi is set up as a slayer. All equipment is proto as well. Personally, I'm a much better scout than anything. As a sniper (while I originally was), I'm extremely deadly. But as a scout, there is a drawback to all that speed, even using a Scotsman. It's glass. With the uptick in AHMG, BAR, etc, no scout can last long. It's speed is unparalleled (though I have a Gallente Commando with a sprint of 8 or more) but, again, the scout can't take much damage. You'll usually die more in one than any other thing. Probably why my KDR hovers. Side note: Another reason why I die more sometimes is this. Other night, I had a squad with Corp. Five times I died protecting a squad member, me taking the damage, allowing them to fight on. But, again, it's just part of what I do for my team. i use scout only when get redlined, i 'll go drop some link with cloaky scout. watever.... i just suck at scout somehow, i can kill anyone with butter knife, little lag **** up my shot gun, i just dont know how to use scout TAT but i think im pretty good at logi:) scouts r not good nowadays.... thats true. n most of the kill i get in pc is from scout XD scout is dead when they r seen :( I agree. Once seen, a scout is usually dead. But I love being a scout. Only two of my setups have a cloak and shotgun. Most are based on pure speed. The one I have the most fun with is one with complex kincats, nova knives (can't remember which), Tsunami MD, proto remote explosives, etc. But even as much damage as I do with it, it can't take damage at all. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 81	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:53:00 - [23] - Quote good scout players start to complain about it now... cuz ass hmg XD scout destroyer lol, n with the arm n shield increased, scout has less chance to battle, i use min scout b4, n changed to gal scout after sp reset, but just realized, cal scout might b the best scout to battle... it has alot shield n great recovery, gal scout can stack alot arm but no recovery. so i trained it just to get scotsman XD it not usefull to me... shotgun is cool on min ass, doesnt matter been scanned or not. i think i will still save my KDR XD looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 630	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:11:00 - [24] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: good scout players start to complain about it now... cuz ass hmg XD scout destroyer lol, n with the arm n shield increased, scout has less chance to battle, i use min scout b4, n changed to gal scout after sp reset, but just realized, cal scout might b the best scout to battle... it has alot shield n great recovery, gal scout can stack alot arm but no recovery. so i trained it just to get scotsman XD it not usefull to me... shotgun is cool on min ass, doesnt matter been scanned or not. i think i will still save my KDR XD The Gallente Commando is spoke of earlier is my favorite suit to mess around in. Normal speed isn't great but the Sprint is at 8, maybe a touch above. 400 shields and around 600 or 700 armor. Shotgun and AR variant but can't remember which. Seems to throw people off with a big guy speeding towards you faster than he should carrying a shotgun. I hardly die when using it lol. Fun suit to be honest. Plus it can take a bit of damage, always a plus. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 304	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:19:00 - [25] - Quote Gydian Dubois wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: good scout players start to complain about it now... cuz ass hmg XD scout destroyer lol, n with the arm n shield increased, scout has less chance to battle, i use min scout b4, n changed to gal scout after sp reset, but just realized, cal scout might b the best scout to battle... it has alot shield n great recovery, gal scout can stack alot arm but no recovery. so i trained it just to get scotsman XD it not usefull to me... shotgun is cool on min ass, doesnt matter been scanned or not. i think i will still save my KDR XD The Gallente Commando is spoke of earlier is my favorite suit to mess around in. Normal speed isn't great but the Sprint is at 8, maybe a touch above. 400 shields and around 600 or 700 armor. Shotgun and AR variant but can't remember which. Seems to throw people off with a big guy speeding towards you faster than he should carrying a shotgun. I hardly die when using it lol. Fun suit to be honest. Plus it can take a bit of damage, always a plus. Sounds like a blast... A shotgun blast to the face! Haha Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 630	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:38:00 - [26] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: good scout players start to complain about it now... cuz ass hmg XD scout destroyer lol, n with the arm n shield increased, scout has less chance to battle, i use min scout b4, n changed to gal scout after sp reset, but just realized, cal scout might b the best scout to battle... it has alot shield n great recovery, gal scout can stack alot arm but no recovery. so i trained it just to get scotsman XD it not usefull to me... shotgun is cool on min ass, doesnt matter been scanned or not. i think i will still save my KDR XD The Gallente Commando is spoke of earlier is my favorite suit to mess around in. Normal speed isn't great but the Sprint is at 8, maybe a touch above. 400 shields and around 600 or 700 armor. Shotgun and AR variant but can't remember which. Seems to throw people off with a big guy speeding towards you faster than he should carrying a shotgun. I hardly die when using it lol. Fun suit to be honest. Plus it can take a bit of damage, always a plus. Sounds like a blast... A shotgun blast to the face! Haha If you get your hands on a Centurion, let me know. I'll PM the setup to you. You'd probably have fun in it lol. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 82	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:41:00 - [27] - Quote i tried minmando this time, but seems im not good at it XD i just cant kill anyone with cr.... practicing melee nowXD looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
Shart Machine 45	Posted - 2015.10.28 12:29:00 - [28] - Quote Here's an oddball idea: remove death stats. Kills / WP is what really matters, right? When players don't care about deaths, they will fight for the objective or support their team to build up WPs instead of padding their kills to make their stats look better. I say this because one of my favorite games, Tribes 2, didn't show deaths. The objective was capture the enemy flag and keep ours safe at all costs. If you had to suicide to respawn and get back into the battle faster, that's just what you did. It was win by any means, regardless if you die 100 times. The mentality was 100% different than it is in games now. Obviously Dust is different in some aspects like clone count and losing gear, but the point remains. If you don't give somebody a stat to pad, then they won't pad it.
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 826	Posted - 2015.10.28 12:36:00 - [29] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) hey mate, drop by "radio warravens" chat anytime u wana fly with us. dunno bout other corps but we mostly go by weekly kdr when recruiting (slayers at least). that way if i meet someone who's talking the talk and wants in corp, but who's stats are bad, i can give them some isk and introduce them to other squads and say "youve got a week, prove it" if you have played hard this week for the event, your weekly stats should be good. goodluck out there. o7 Less QQ more PewPew
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:45:00 - [30] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. insert thank you gif That's honestly exactly how I feel KDR isn't a useless stat. There are two victory conditions in Dust. Kill all Clones Destroy the MCC Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones. In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care. If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi. For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better. Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here

KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 305	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:00:00 - [31] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. insert thank you gif That's honestly exactly how I feel KDR isn't a useless stat. There are two victory conditions in Dust. Kill all Clones Destroy the MCC Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones. In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care. If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi. For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better. Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA. What about a guy like me? Ive got a 1.11 KDR, And I logi a ton nowadays. In the past, I ran lolfits like a PLC Ninja...... Before it was cool. So yeah, my LIFETIME stats suck, but my skill doesn't reflect that. Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 305	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:02:00 - [32] - Quote Shart Machine wrote: Here's an oddball idea: remove death stats. Kills / WP is what really matters, right? When players don't care about deaths, they will fight for the objective or support their team to build up WPs instead of padding their kills to make their stats look better. I say this because one of my favorite games, Tribes 2, didn't show deaths. The objective was capture the enemy flag and keep ours safe at all costs. If you had to suicide to respawn and get back into the battle faster, that's just what you did. It was win by any means, regardless if you die 100 times. The mentality was 100% different than it is in games now. Obviously Dust is different in some aspects like clone count and losing gear, but the point remains. If you don't give somebody a stat to pad, then they won't pad it. Exactly. I will suicide into the enemy 10 times during a pub to get one or two kills if I have to. PC is different, but that's not the point Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:11:00 - [33] - Quote Kdr is for cod kids. All i care about is being effective with my logi fits and having fun and seeing how long of a kill streak i can keep going. Also money i love spending it and making it. Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 129	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:24:00 - [34] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time....
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:30:00 - [35] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Boyko most of corp today looks on cooperation than some KDR. If you want you can play with us (im more messy KDRist than anyother boyo here) XD Take a look here and if you will be interested just apply for some fun ;) *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:22:00 - [36] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time.... I mean none of the elitist PC corps like AE FA and a bunch of others.... cough cough Dreis I hope you are reading this Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 631	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:23:00 - [37] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. insert thank you gif That's honestly exactly how I feel KDR isn't a useless stat. There are two victory conditions in Dust. Kill all Clones Destroy the MCC Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones. In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care. If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi. For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better. Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA. Why I said, personally it's a useless stat. Yes, two ways to win and 80% of the time it's not cloning. Also, if someone has a sub 1 KDR, no, it does not say you die more than you kill. Newer players, even when I started, play against high rank players fairly quick. As a new player, you can die an unrealistic amount of times. Seen it happen so much that it's ridiculous. It takes time to get back even and above, and some people only play with a limited amount of time due to their real life schedule. Even the time's I had a sub 1 KDR in PC, we won. Second, in pubs, as you said, everyone worries about KDR rather than winning. Sad but true. Why you have very lopsided loses or wins a decent bit of the time. And as I said before, some people use glass suits like scouts, which can easily equate to more deaths. Not just logi, which is your focus point. And WP per death is not always a good indicator either. As I said in an earlier post, some battles I'll die due to protecting teammates and using a glass scout, yet I'm at the top in WP. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:30:00 - [38] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) It's hard to be in the spot light specially after 2 years. Most good corps will only field people that have been there since for a long time and the FC knows that they are capable of doing a good job and knows their roles. Basically to be part of the A team you literally have to be way better than someone there and impress the FC and directors, and maybe even then they might field you or not. Unless you are happy being part of the B team. As far as i know AE shouldnt be judging people by their kd because that's not how we judged someone in having a chance in joining. It was, you had talent you were in. Our B team was basically an A team in today's standards and the A team were just flat out monsters. Idk about now lol im so out of touch with anything relating PC and recruitment.
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge 631	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:32:00 - [39] - Quote And I'll admit, my lifetime KDR is abysmal. But it's only like it is, one because I was a headstrong newb when I started, rushing to fight against proto, etc, instead of playing smart, along with a few other criteria that only some know. But again, KDR is not a great stat. I agree with the post earlier saying that if it wasn't there, people would stop striving to top each other on it because it wouldn't be about the stat. It would be about the teamwork, as it should be. But I also only play for the social aspect, not anything else. Quite a few are that way. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Vlad Rostok 281	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:11:00 - [40] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time.... I mean none of the elitist PC corps like AE FA and a bunch of others.... cough cough Dreis I hope you are reading this What's with the obsession with joining an "elitist" pc corp? Do you know any of their members? Is it the "prestige" of showing off the tags? I mean what if you get in and it turns out to be an uncomfortable environment where you don't fit in? Why not join a group where everyone gets along, are friends and have common interests? Most of these "elite" groups are intentionally exclusionary and resistant to allowing new people to break into the "inner circle". Not that it's completely unheard of but I'd be cautious about having to compromise your core self in order to gain acceptance.

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:15:00 - [41] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Gydian Dubois wrote: My current Corp doesn't care about KDR. It's about teamwork. Only requirements for PC is lifetime SP, along with a few minor. things like proto gear, etc. My KDR sucks but I don't care. I play for the team and half the time, I die preventing someone else in my team from dying. KDR is and always will be, to me, a useless stat. It does not dictate how good or bad a player is. Only true tryhards worry about KDR. insert thank you gif That's honestly exactly how I feel KDR isn't a useless stat. There are two victory conditions in Dust. Kill all Clones Destroy the MCC Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones. In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care. If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi. For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better. Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA. What about a guy like me? Ive got a 1.11 KDR, And I logi a ton nowadays. In the past, I ran lolfits like a PLC Ninja...... Before it was cool. So yeah, my LIFETIME stats suck, but my skill doesn't reflect that. Play well enough to convince the Corp to run with you more. If you show your skills, you should have no problem getting into a corp. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:20:00 - [42] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time.... I mean none of the elitist PC corps like AE FA and a bunch of others.... cough cough Dreis I hope you are reading this What's with the obsession with joining an "elitist" pc corp? Do you know any of their members? Is it the "prestige" of showing off the tags? I mean what if you get in and it turns out to be an uncomfortable environment where you don't fit in? Why not join a group where everyone gets along, are friends and have common interests? Most of these "elite" groups are intentionally exclusionary and resistant to allowing new people to break into the "inner circle". Not that it's completely unheard of but I'd be cautious about having to compromise your core self in order to gain acceptance. Don't talk like you know us. I got into FA from being in a nobody corp, and I haven't changed any of my core values since my time in here. FA doesn't care about what you do or anything. All they care about is whether you can hold your own on the battlefield. Hell, I'd even take a horrible stat recruit if they showed potential. Mentality is half the battle. I look for people with the "Knock me down and I'll hop right back up and sock you one" mentality. Because no matter what, you WILL do badly in a PC one day. Hell, you might end up in a loss streak at sometime and lose all your districts. I want people who are able and willing to say, "That was horrible, lets improve". Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Vlad Rostok 281	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:27:00 - [43] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time.... I mean none of the elitist PC corps like AE FA and a bunch of others.... cough cough Dreis I hope you are reading this What's with the obsession with joining an "elitist" pc corp? Do you know any of their members? Is it the "prestige" of showing off the tags? I mean what if you get in and it turns out to be an uncomfortable environment where you don't fit in? Why not join a group where everyone gets along, are friends and have common interests? Most of these "elite" groups are intentionally exclusionary and resistant to allowing new people to break into the "inner circle". Not that it's completely unheard of but I'd be cautious about having to compromise your core self in order to gain acceptance. Don't talk like you know us. I got into FA from being in a nobody corp, and I haven't changed any of my core values since my time in here. FA doesn't care about what you do or anything. All they care about is whether you can hold your own on the battlefield. Hell, I'd even take a horrible stat recruit if they showed potential. Mentality is half the battle. I look for people with the "Knock me down and I'll hop right back up and sock you one" mentality. Because no matter what, you WILL do badly in a PC one day. Hell, you might end up in a loss streak at sometime and lose all your districts. I want people who are able and willing to say, "That was horrible, lets improve". Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 02:20:00 - [44] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: [quote=Ghost Kaisar] Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically, but I don't need to know you. In my time I've been around and seen enough cliques to know that they're fundamentally all the same: only the "cool kids" get in, all others are excluded. And it's a cruel game, making the plebes dance and do tricks on the hope that they'll be accepted into the inner sanctum. Some get through these tests, but most don't. And that's what I meant about not compromising oneself attempting to join up with the "elite", because it's never worth it. Killer Hellhound is in a PC with us as I type Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Vlad Rostok 281	Posted - 2015.10.29 02:59:00 - [45] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: [quote=Ghost Kaisar] Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically, but I don't need to know you. In my time I've been around and seen enough cliques to know that they're fundamentally all the same: only the "cool kids" get in, all others are excluded. And it's a cruel game, making the plebes dance and do tricks on the hope that they'll be accepted into the inner sanctum. Some get through these tests, but most don't. And that's what I meant about not compromising oneself attempting to join up with the "elite", because it's never worth it. Killer Hellhound is in a PC with us as I type Well, yay. Did you have him take Derrith's entrance exam yet?
Kaltos Darksbane G.L.O.R.Y 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 03:03:00 - [46] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now. Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. sigh I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go) It's hard to be in the spot light specially after 2 years. Most good corps will only field people that have been there since for a long time and the FC knows that they are capable of doing a good job and knows their roles. Basically to be part of the A team you literally have to be way better than someone there and impress the FC and directors, and maybe even then they might field you or not. Unless you are happy being part of the B team. As far as i know AE shouldnt be judging people by their kd because that's not how we judged someone in having a chance in joining. It was, you had talent you were in. Our B team was basically an A team in today's standards and the A team were just flat out monsters. Idk about now lol im so out of touch with anything relating PC and recruitment. ^^^ This is someone you guys might want to listen to. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 03:16:00 - [47] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: [quote=Ghost Kaisar] Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically, but I don't need to know you. In my time I've been around and seen enough cliques to know that they're fundamentally all the same: only the "cool kids" get in, all others are excluded. And it's a cruel game, making the plebes dance and do tricks on the hope that they'll be accepted into the inner sanctum. Some get through these tests, but most don't. And that's what I meant about not compromising oneself attempting to join up with the "elite", because it's never worth it. Killer Hellhound is in a PC with us as I type Well, yay. Did you have him take Derrith's entrance exam yet? He needs to learn how to not drop 20 uplinks in the same spot. But no, he hasn't taken Derriths Exam yet. Proctor was AFK Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 310	Posted - 2015.10.29 04:10:00 - [48] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: [quote=Ghost Kaisar] Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically, but I don't need to know you. In my time I've been around and seen enough cliques to know that they're fundamentally all the same: only the "cool kids" get in, all others are excluded. And it's a cruel game, making the plebes dance and do tricks on the hope that they'll be accepted into the inner sanctum. Some get through these tests, but most don't. And that's what I meant about not compromising oneself attempting to join up with the "elite", because it's never worth it. Killer Hellhound is in a PC with us as I type Well, yay. Did you have him take Derrith's entrance exam yet? He needs to learn how to not drop 20 uplinks in the same spot. But no, he hasn't taken Derriths Exam yet. Proctor was AFK We all established that wasn't me. I spammed links 15-25m away from each other, never closer Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again. I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 04:13:00 - [49] - Quote KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: ~~He needs to learn how to not drop 20 uplinks in the same spot.~~ But no, he hasn't taken Derriths Exam yet. Proctor was AFK We all established that wasn't me. I spammed links 15-25m away from each other, never closer Yeah, that was after this post. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here


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