KDR isn't a useless stat.

There are two victory conditions in Dust.

Kill all Clones

Destroy the MCC

Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones.

In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care.

If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi.

For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better.

Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA.

Here's an oddball idea: remove death stats. Kills / WP is what really matters, right? When players don't care about deaths, they will fight for the objective or support their team to build up WPs instead of padding their kills to make their stats look better.

I say this because one of my favorite games, Tribes 2, didn't show deaths. The objective was capture the enemy flag and keep ours safe at all costs. If you had to suicide to respawn and get back into the battle faster, that's just what you did. It was win by any means, regardless if you die 100 times. The mentality was 100% different than it is in games now.

Obviously Dust is different in some aspects like clone count and losing gear, but the point remains. If you don't give somebody a stat to pad, then they won't pad it.

As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now.

Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. *sigh* I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go)

As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now.

Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. *sigh* I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go)

Not even Dust University let you in? They let me in with a 0.68 K/D ratio at the time....

KDR isn't a useless stat.

There are two victory conditions in Dust.

Kill all Clones

Destroy the MCC

Having a sub 1.0 K/DR means that you die more than you kill in a match, which makes you a liability in PC, as you make it easier for the opponent to win by clones.

In Pubs? I honestly don't know who would care.

If you're trying to get into a PC corp, K/DR and W/L are two very important stats to look at, UNLESS you're a Logi.

For Logi's, I typically use their Kills and KD/R to figure out their deaths, and then Divide lifetime WP by death to get a measure of WP/Death. The higher the better.

Source: I process a lot of Apps for FA.

As you all know (or at least most of you) I'm a closed beta vet (Mordu's Private Trials to be exact). I've had a ton of character since, and settled down with this one in 2014. I used to fly transports drop ships and a bunch of other things. I never cared about kills or WP, only about having fun. After years of stat-neglect, I've come to realize that I wish I tried even a little. My current KD is like 16k/14k (1.11 kdr) and a measly 2m WP. Sure, I've racked up 50M on this char (if I added all my old chars I'd be at 150m by now.

Anyways, no corp wants to take me in because my stats are bad. Sure, I pull a 3.5-7.0KD when I go try hard, but I never did, and now I'm more willing to. Nobody thinks I'm capable of it due to my lifetime stats. I used to be one of the best snipers & pilots in the game... Now I'm nothing. I don't even know anymore... Id rather be in a NPC corp then be in another dead PC corp, or one that absolutely sucks. *sigh* I gotta stop typing and go back to slaying for the event... (I started last night and only have another 165 to go)

I mean none of the elitist PC corps like AE FA and a bunch of others.... *cough cough Dreis I hope you are reading this*

What about a guy like me? Ive got a 1.11 KDR, And I logi a ton nowadays. In the past, I ran lolfits like a PLC Ninja...... Before it was cool. So yeah, my LIFETIME stats suck, but my skill doesn't reflect that.

What's with the obsession with joining an "elitist" pc corp? Do you know any of their members? Is it the "prestige" of showing off the tags?

I mean what if you get in and it turns out to be an uncomfortable environment where you don't fit in? Why not join a group where everyone gets along, are friends and have common interests?

Most of these "elite" groups are intentionally exclusionary and resistant to allowing new people to break into the "inner circle". Not that it's completely unheard of but I'd be cautious about having to compromise your core self in order to gain acceptance.

Don't talk like you know us.

I got into FA from being in a nobody corp, and I haven't changed any of my core values since my time in here.

FA doesn't care about what you do or anything. All they care about is whether you can hold your own on the battlefield.

Hell, I'd even take a horrible stat recruit if they showed potential. Mentality is half the battle. I look for people with the "Knock me down and I'll hop right back up and sock you one" mentality.

Because no matter what, you WILL do badly in a PC one day. Hell, you might end up in a loss streak at sometime and lose all your districts.

I want people who are able and willing to say, "That was horrible, lets improve".

[quote=Ghost Kaisar]

Hmmm, don't see where I mentioned you specifically, but I don't need to know you. In my time I've been around and seen enough cliques to know that they're fundamentally all the same: only the "cool kids" get in, all others are excluded. And it's a cruel game, making the plebes dance and do tricks on the hope that they'll be accepted into the inner sanctum. Some get through these tests, but most don't. And that's what I meant about not compromising oneself attempting to join up with the "elite", because it's never worth it.

Killer Hellhound is in a PC with us as I type

It's hard to be in the spot light specially after 2 years. Most good corps will only field people that have been there since for a long time and the FC knows that they are capable of doing a good job and knows their roles. Basically to be part of the A team you literally have to be way better than someone there and impress the FC and directors, and maybe even then they might field you or not. Unless you are happy being part of the B team. As far as i know AE shouldnt be judging people by their kd because that's not how we judged someone in having a chance in joining. It was, you had talent you were in. Our B team was basically an A team in today's standards and the A team were just flat out monsters. Idk about now lol im so out of touch with anything relating PC and recruitment.

Well, yay. Did you have him take Derrith's entrance exam yet?

He needs to learn how to not drop 20 uplinks in the same spot.

But no, he hasn't taken Derriths Exam yet. Proctor was AFK

We all established that wasn't me. I spammed links 15-25m away from each other, never closer