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Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 133	Posted - 2015.10.28 04:34:00 - [1] - Quote Are all the kids these days so emo that trying hard is no longer cool? Are we all just supposed to be apathetic all of the time? Should we all just start randomly shooting at each other without aiming? "Whoops aiming is too hard!" Should we all just sit in the MCCs? "Eh, I'd jump out, but then I'd have to hit the inertia dampener or die!" Better yet, maybe we just shouldn't spawn at all. "Pushing one button is too hard!" Yes, I goddamn try hard. I am on that field to win the fight, and make some ISK. Am I saying that you have to be OH SO SUPER SERIOUS? No! At the end of the day it still should be fun for you, and not another job. What I am saying is that it doesn't make sense to use "tryhard" as an insult. I suspect that it's just an excuse made up by people being stomped. "Oh, well I guess we're losing, but it's okay because I'm not even trying, and they're all trying so hard lololololololololo!!!!111OneONe" Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 04:37:00 - [2] - Quote Some people are not willing to admit that there will sometimes be people on the other sides who want to win more than them. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Vicious Minotaur 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote Long ago, before DUST was ever a game. And even still... Minotaur Master Race Penetrating humans since ca 84 BCE.
DogeGode Master 119	Posted - 2015.10.28 05:11:00 - [4] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Long ago, before DUST was ever a game. And even still... The people who play this game #rekt. Totally not an alt.
JIMvc2 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:01:00 - [5] - Quote When Dust was in its early stages = great game. Now its all jumpy the mass driver, tanks die waaaaay to fast now. Back then tanks had over 7000 hp. Now its ****. Many players now must be players after open beta. Now that very few veterans a tee left. We need to change this. Make tanks stronger and let the mercs go run like dead animals. Come on CPM make tanks strong again. Also bring back the old variant tanks. The tanks now are a disgrace even Prototype. Only a CPU and PG get increased and no armor = what crap is that. Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:19:00 - [6] - Quote Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. Ripley Riley: > Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault: > DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 138	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:28:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. That's fine. You like to just run with however you can get your giggles. I respect that. However, I like winning, and knowing that I did everything in my power to push my team to that Victory screen. I think that is fun. What I'm saying though, is that it shouldn't be an insult to say that people are "try hards." At its core, trying hard isn't a bad thing. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Imperium Eden 4	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:38:00 - [8] - Quote It is an insult like bi**h. The insult is in the implied meaning rather than the actual meaning. Actual meaning: "Of course I am trying my best. Are you saying you aren't? Then why are you mad?" Implied meaning: Basically, "Make Love, Not Warcraft." "If we dedicate 21 hours a day for 16 months, we can totts be awesome!!" Saying that someone is a "try hard" is not be be taken as "you are a female dog" but rather what the person who "cares waaayyy too much about an electronic form of entertainment" and all the implied things that go with that such as "fat", "anti-social", and having no life. It can also be shorthand for "only using the most powerful tools" or being a slave to the meta. If this were Hearthstone, the insult would be "brainless net decking." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.10.28 06:46:00 - [9] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. That's fine. You like to just run with however you can get your giggles. I respect that. However, I like winning, and knowing that I did everything in my power to push my team to that Victory screen. I think that is fun. What I'm saying though, is that it shouldn't be an insult to say that people are "try hards." At its core, trying hard isn't a bad thing. I don't think I ever used it unironically. If that's what tickles you then go ahead. Ripley Riley: > Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault: > DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:49:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. PLC's are waaaaay too much fun. Knocking snipers/roof campers off of roofs and fending off dropships are all WAAAY more fun with a PLC, though unfortunately the latter is much more challenging than most non-PLC users would think. I've nailed several normal dropships out of the sky, but I've only managed to kill about 10-12 ADSs in my entire time using it : / añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ *"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."* añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù

Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:52:00 - [11] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. PLC's are waaaaay too much fun. Knocking snipers/roof campers off of roofs and fending off dropships are all WAAAY more fun with a PLC, though unfortunately the latter is much more challenging than most non-PLC users would think. I've nailed several normal dropships out of the sky, but I've only managed to kill about 10-12 ADSs in my entire time using it : / The plc is what we have closest to a sniper rifle in real life. Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 472	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:31:00 - [12] - Quote Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long, If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed.
JEDI LORD HOTH 67	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:42:00 - [13] - Quote Thank the script kiddies of Reddit for that one. The last thing we need is CCP stinking up the PS4 with this turd of a game. PetitionSony
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 11:37:00 - [14] - Quote People be weird. Usually when I attempt to try hard I just bring out a proto Min logi and turn the tide of the battle within 5 seconds and say "yeah **** you redlining hoebags!" Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 11:49:00 - [15] - Quote I call tryhards the absolute twats that pull out their best proto/officer gear against std militia suits in pubs. Corrosive Synergy's Clown " The scrambler rifle is in fact a leaf blower. "
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 12:10:00 - [16] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Are all the kids these days so emo that trying hard is no longer cool? Are we all just supposed to be apathetic all of the time? Should we all just start randomly shooting at each other without aiming? "Whoops aiming is too hard!" Should we all just sit in the MCCs? "Eh, I'd jump out, but then I'd have to hit the inertia dampener or die!" Better yet, maybe we just shouldn't spawn at all. "Pushing one button is too hard!" Yes, I goddamn try hard. I am on that field to win the fight, and make some ISK. Am I saying that you have to be OH SO SUPER SERIOUS? No! At the end of the day it still should be fun for you, and not another job. What I am saying is that it doesn't make sense to use "tryhard" as an insult. I suspect that it's just an excuse made up by people being stomped. no, we should announce our plan (crash plane with no survivors) on an anonymous image board then shoot up a room with an HMG. Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:08:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. That's fine. You like to just run with however you can get your giggles. I respect that. However, I like winning, and knowing that I did everything in my power to push my team to that Victory screen. I think that is fun. What I'm saying though, is that it shouldn't be an insult to say that people are "try hards." At its core, trying hard isn't a bad thing. I don't think I ever used it unironically. If that's what tickles you then go ahead. I want to tickle all of you "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:45:00 - [18] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Why would you try hard when pub matches don't matter. Play however you find fun. If through some logic I don't understand you find joy in trying hard, then go ahead. I personally gave up on it and just started rolling double plasma cannon fits and the likes. That's fine. You like to just run with however you can get your giggles. I respect that. However, I like winning, and knowing that I did everything in my power to push my team to that Victory screen. I think that is fun. What I'm saying though, is that it shouldn't be an insult to say that people are "try hards." At its core, trying hard isn't a bad thing. I don't think I ever used it unironically. If that's what tickles you then go ahead. D-doubles? how about trips? if only we had a officer suit with tripple light slots. Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 645	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:52:00 - [19] - Quote I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:19:00 - [20] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Oooooooh IGÇÖm so scared, you think youGÇÖre tough ***? IGÇÖm behind 7 proxies and use ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Comodo Internetnet Securtiy which I all keep up-to-date. THATGÇÖS THREE FIREWALLS AT THE SAME TIME ********. You canGÇÖt hack me you little piece of . YouGÇÖre peeshooter and kung fu wonGÇÖt make a difference when my friend wohGÇÖs a B-51 pilot in the Air Force can turn your entire house and backyard into a fuckhuge bomb crater. You are pathetic, while youGÇÖre sitting there writing insults like the sad little nerd you are iGÇÖm having sex with my hot girlfriends. Yeah you read that right, i have not one but FIVE girlfriends. Top that ********, I dont think youGÇÖve ever even held hands with a girl. Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@**-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!

jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:29:00 - [21] - Quote IGÇÖm almost 20 and havenGÇÖt been able to score a better job than a ***** cook at a local fast food joint. What makes it worse is that I live in a small town so business is pretty limited, and where I work is the only place thatGÇÖll hire high school graduates. IGÇÖd get the hell out of this town if I could actually drive too, but IGÇÖve failed every damn test IGÇÖve ever taken. IGÇÖm socially awkward, even my only other co-worker *** hates my guts. I have repressed lust for one of my best friends too; sheGÇÖs athletic, smart, and a gorgeous southern bell. I love her. You know what itGÇÖs like; IGÇÖve been friend zoned real hard. SheGÇÖs my only best friend, besides this one kid, who IGÇÖm pretty sure is only hanging around me because he is mentally challenged. I guess heGÇÖs the only one that can tolerate me. And what makes this all worse is that I live in a *** pineapple under the sea. Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@**-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:30:00 - [22] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IGÇÖm almost 20 and havenGÇÖt been able to score a better job than a ***** cook at a local fast food joint. What makes it worse is that I live in a small town so business is pretty limited, and where I work is the only place thatGÇÖll hire high school graduates. IGÇÖd get the hell out of this town if I could actually drive too, but IGÇÖve failed every damn test IGÇÖve ever taken. IGÇÖm socially awkward, even my only other co-worker *** hates my guts. I have repressed lust for one of my best friends too; sheGÇÖs athletic, smart, and a gorgeous southern bell. I love her. You know what itGÇÖs like; IGÇÖve been friend zoned real hard. SheGÇÖs my only best friend, besides this one kid, who IGÇÖm pretty sure is only hanging around me because he is mentally challenged. I guess heGÇÖs the only one that can tolerate me. And what makes this all worse is that I live in a ***** pineapple under the sea. Bruh. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:32:00 - [23] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IGÇÖm almost 20 and havenGÇÖt been able to score a better job than a ***** cook at a local fast food joint. What makes it worse is that I live in a small town so business is pretty limited, and where I work is the only place thatGÇÖll hire high school graduates. IGÇÖd get the hell out of this town if I could actually drive too, but IGÇÖve failed every damn test IGÇÖve ever taken. IGÇÖm socially awkward, even my only other co-worker *** hates my guts. I have repressed lust for one of my best friends too; sheGÇÖs athletic, smart, and a gorgeous southern bell. I love her. You know what itGÇÖs like; IGÇÖve been friend zoned real hard. SheGÇÖs my only best friend, besides this one kid, who IGÇÖm pretty sure is only hanging around me because he is mentally challenged. I guess heGÇÖs the only one that can tolerate me. And what makes this all worse is that I live in a *** pineapple under the sea. Bruh. fam Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@**-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 982	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:38:00 - [24] - Quote Try hard is a condescending description of those who want to be elite. I'm at taco eating try hard and I love it Saying what's on people's minds
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:40:00 - [25] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Try hard is a condescending description of those who want to be elite. I'm a taco eating try hard and I love it ebin :DDDDD Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Meisterjager Jagermeister 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:41:00 - [26] - Quote I think there is a distinction between your version of "try hard", which is respectable, and the derogatory version which is "run full fotm proto squads with officer gear when facing all noobs in pubs to get as many kills as possible and maybe we'll care about the win later cuz really its all bout dem lol kilz". AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 646	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:46:00 - [27] - Quote Damn Jermy no more vodka for breakfast CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:48:00 - [28] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Damn Jermy no more shitposts for breakfast FTFY i browse shitposts, and i shitpost, i AM the shitpost Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 962	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:15:00 - [29] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Did they fix the awful lag and glitches post FoxFour? If not, then I will continue to read the wheel of time and play Destiny. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 648	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:19:00 - [30] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Did they fix the awful lag and glitches post FoxFour? If not, then I will continue to read the wheel of time and play Destiny. Nope I'm playing halo 5 then gonna start ordering my PC parts this weekend CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF

demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 963	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:20:00 - [31] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Did they fix the awful lag and glitches post FoxFour? If not, then I will continue to read the wheel of time and play Destiny. Nope I'm playing halo 5 then gonna start ordering my PC parts this weekend Hit me up on Steam! I play Bro Force, Dark Souls 3 (when it drops next year), and other such games. League of Legends when everyone is on. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 648	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:24:00 - [32] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Did they fix the awful lag and glitches post FoxFour? If not, then I will continue to read the wheel of time and play Destiny. Nope I'm playing halo 5 then gonna start ordering my PC parts this weekend Hit me up on Steam! I play Bro Force, Dark Souls 3 (when it drops next year), and other such games. League of Legends when everyone is on. I'm waiting for fallout 4..as of now I can't add Friends yet lol =ƒÿÜ CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
demens grimwulff Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 963	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:27:00 - [33] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: I'm waiting for fallout 4..as of now I can't add Friends yet lol =ƒÿÜ Yea, I might buy a second copy for my PC so I can play it in glorious 4k. Will be amazing. WENDELL'S Diplomat True Disciple of Kujo's lacy panties
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:41:00 - [34] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Are all the kids these days so emo that trying hard is no longer cool? Are we all just supposed to be apathetic all of the time? Should we all just start randomly shooting at each other without aiming? "Whoops aiming is too hard!" Should we all just sit in the MCCs? "Eh, I'd jump out, but then I'd have to hit the inertia dampener or die!" Better yet, maybe we just shouldn't spawn at all. "Pushing one button is too hard!" Yes, I goddamn try hard. I am on that field to win the fight, and make some ISK. Am I saying that you have to be OH SO SUPER SERIOUS? No! At the end of the day it still should be fun for you, and not another job. What I am saying is that it doesn't make sense to use "tryhard" as an insult. I suspect that it's just an excuse made up by people being stomped. "Oh, well I guess we're losing, but it's okay because I'm not even trying, and they're all trying so hard lololololololololo!!!!111OneONe" The difference is in toxicity. And to be honest i heard many many try hard ppl on mic sometimes. They raging, raging from game. Honestly i was same, but be overcompetitive is never great way how to play. With or without friends, that toxicity will consume you and people around. That is reason why i do not like toxic thry hards in my flock boyko ;) *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:36:00 - [35] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long, If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed. Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up? Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:38:00 - [36] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: I call tryhards the absolute twats that pull out their best proto/officer gear against std militia suits in pubs. Please elaborate how bringing proto out is bad? I bring out proto when I am losing so I can help my team come back. Also, proto is literally the only fun suits to wear, because basic myos suck and basically all basic modules are trash (with some exceptions.) Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:39:00 - [37] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Oooooooh IGÇÖm so scared, you think youGÇÖre tough ***? IGÇÖm behind 7 proxies and use ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Comodo Internetnet Securtiy which I all keep up-to-date. THATGÇÖS THREE FIREWALLS AT THE SAME TIME ********. You canGÇÖt hack me you little piece of . YouGÇÖre peeshooter and kung fu wonGÇÖt make a difference when my friend wohGÇÖs a B-51 pilot in the Air Force can turn your entire house and backyard into a fuckhuge bomb crater. You are pathetic, while youGÇÖre sitting there writing insults like the sad little nerd you are iGÇÖm having sex with my hot girlfriends. Yeah you read that right, i have not one but FIVE girlfriends. Top that **********, I dont think youGÇÖve ever even held hands with a girl. Go home, you're drunk. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:40:00 - [38] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I think there is a distinction between your version of "try hard", which is respectable, and the derogatory version which is "run full fotm proto squads with officer gear when facing all noobs in pubs to get as many kills as possible and maybe we'll care about the win later cuz really its all bout dem lol kilz". In my squads when we wear proto, it is usually right before a PC to get ready for it. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
catsrule D3ATH CARD RUST415 74	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:16:00 - [39] - Quote Killing players that have a minimal chance of fighting back and winning when proto gear is in play? Idaf what people think killing players without any means to die. It's fun, fighting players that can fight back? Fun and challenging, 0 f's given to what people think, killing / destroying stuff fun in general Why do we forget the things we want to remember but remember the things we want to forget ~ Unknown
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:17:00 - [40] - Quote catsrule wrote: Killing players that have a minimal chance of fighting back and winning when proto gear is in play? Idaf what people think killing players without any means to die. It's fun, fighting players that can fight back? Fun and challenging, 0 f's given to what people think, killing / destroying stuff fun in general You don't seems to understand. Fun and Dust 514 should not be used in the same sentence. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!

catsrule D3ATH CARD RUST415 76	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:24:00 - [41] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: catsrule wrote: Killing players that have a minimal chance of fighting back and winning when proto gear is in play? Idaf what people think killing players without any means to die. It's fun, fighting players that can fight back? Fun and challenging, 0 f's given to what people think, killing / destroying stuff fun in general You don't seems to understand. Fun and Dust 514 should not be used in the same sentence. LoL +1 I like to get people going, LET the hate flow through you!!! Why do we forget the things we want to remember but remember the things we want to forget ~ Unknown
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:51:00 - [42] - Quote Insert typical protostumper/pubstar insult here Oh wait i profit when my teamates die alot(level 5 amarr logistics with flux uplinks for speedy spawns,lol i profit off of death) Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 153	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:55:00 - [43] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Me, an internationally recognized researcher for advancing the science of getting bent. The Director of Pure Evil. A minotaur. A guy who isn't an alt. Someone who quotes "Jim." A Merc who is also a cat. Someone who paid money. Cash money. Baal, who is apparently omniscient. Proffesor X. Stalin. A Jedi Lord. A kinky pancake. DAAAA BEAST. A Closed beta vet. A mage-like entity. The CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF. A grenade type come to life. StarVenger. A guy who thinks cats rule. A dead cat. And you, WENDELL'S Diplomat. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Regnier Feros Dead Man's Game 997	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:01:00 - [44] - Quote Hmm, hmm, Av laser rifle. I LIKE PIE
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:37:00 - [45] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Me, an internationally recognized researcher for advancing the science of getting bent. The Director of Pure Evil. A minotaur. A guy who isn't an alt. Someone who quotes "Jim." A Merc who is also a cat. Someone who paid money. Cash money. Baal, who is apparently omniscient. Proffesor X. Stalin. A Jedi Lord. A kinky pancake. DAAAA BEAST. A Closed beta vet. A mage-like entity. The CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF. A grenade type come to life. StarVenger. A guy who thinks cats rule. A dead cat. And you, WENDELL'S Diplomat. Me not here boyko?? taking his forge and leaving under the wings of misty night XD "Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:44:00 - [46] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Oooooooh IGÇÖm so scared, you think youGÇÖre tough ***? IGÇÖm behind 7 proxies and use ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Comodo Internetnet Securtiy which I all keep up-to-date. THATGÇÖS THREE FIREWALLS AT THE SAME TIME ********. You canGÇÖt hack me you little piece of . YouGÇÖre peeshooter and kung fu wonGÇÖt make a difference when my friend wohGÇÖs a B-51 pilot in the Air Force can turn your entire house and backyard into a fuckhuge bomb crater. You are pathetic, while youGÇÖre sitting there writing insults like the sad little nerd you are iGÇÖm having sex with my hot girlfriends. Yeah you read that right, i have not one but FIVE girlfriends. Top that ********, I dont think youGÇÖve ever even held hands with a girl. Go home, you're durnk. ftfy Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@**-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 154	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:42:00 - [47] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Kail Mako wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Mmmmmm. I like your offer. Also, who is anyone in this thread, and why does it matter? Me, an internationally recognized researcher for advancing the science of getting bent. The Director of Pure Evil. A minotaur. A guy who isn't an alt. Someone who quotes "Jim." A Merc who is also a cat. Someone who paid money. Cash money. Baal, who is apparently omniscient. Proffesor X. Stalin. A Jedi Lord. A kinky pancake. DAAAA BEAST. A Closed beta vet. A mage-like entity. The CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF. A grenade type come to life. StarVenger. A guy who thinks cats rule. A dead cat. And you, WENDELL'S Diplomat. Me not here boyko?? *taking his forge and leaving under the wings of misty night XD Whoops, missed ya. Guess I'll update the list. A wasteland traveler. A guy who likes pie. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 20:56:00 - [48] - Quote XD Wasteland traveler XD *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 01:16:00 - [49] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: XD Wasteland traveler XD XDDDD meme XDDDDD Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 02:53:00 - [50] - Quote Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.

XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 02:55:00 - [51] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 03:02:00 - [52] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 03:11:00 - [53] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE. They are not "trying hard", anyone who runs any suit does it because they like using that suit, it is like saying it is bad to eat bananas everyday, now I'm forcing you to eat mangos. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 04:42:00 - [54] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE. They are not "trying hard", anyone who runs any suit does it because they like using that suit, it is like saying it is bad to eat bananas everyday, now I'm forcing you to eat mangos. We're not talking about suits. We're talking mentality. You brought up logi suits as an example of not trying hard. I'm saying you can be an assault and be casual. Running an assault does not make you a tryhard. Likewise, running a logi doesnt mean you aren't. It's a matter of priority of focus on the gameplay. The tryhard mentality is great for competitive play like the competitions CCP holds with EVE. Tryhard is expected in a game mode like PC. I find it surprising in DUST FW considering that FW in EVE was made for new players that can't run better stuff and need a mode to jump right into a situation that provides ready made fights. I'd like to see FW be that in DUST with restrictions to gear or the matchmaking algorithms and therefore pubs could be the free for all arena brawl. PC is the competitive mode. Everyone involved is there for the push, push, push quick win progression. Then of course there could be brackets for FW based on gear tier. Like EVE FW, you have sites that allow a certain type of ship. These scale up. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 04:47:00 - [55] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE. They are not "trying hard", anyone who runs any suit does it because they like using that suit, it is like saying it is bad to eat bananas everyday, now I'm forcing you to eat mangos. We're not talking about suits. We're talking mentality. You brought up logi suits as an example of not trying hard. I'm saying you can be an assault and be casual. Running an assault does not make you a tryhard. Likewise, running a logi doesnt mean you aren't. It's a matter of priority of focus on the gameplay. The tryhard mentality is great for competitive play like the competitions CCP holds with EVE. Tryhard is expected in a game mode like PC. I find it surprising in DUST FW considering that FW in EVE was made for new players that can't run better stuff and need a mode to jump right into a situation that provides ready made fights. I'd like to see FW be that in DUST with restrictions to gear or the matchmaking algorithms and therefore pubs could be the free for all arena brawl. PC is the competitive mode. Everyone involved is there for the push, push, push quick win progression. Then of course there could be brackets for FW based on gear tier. Like EVE FW, you have sites that allow a certain type of ship. These scale up. That sounds completely reasonable. I completely support a meta lock. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:02:00 - [56] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: That sounds completely reasonable. I completely support a meta lock. Even better than meta lock is listing FW games according to site or planet level. Like FW sites (forgot the term) in EVE, there'd be a list of games randomly appearing under FW and you can join the one you like. These would also list the meta level. So, you feel like a challlenge that gives bigger rewards then join the proto level. Feel like cruising through a laid back fight with small rewards while you drink a beer then hit the basic level. Or, it would be the difference between running with a group, proto level, but still you could run basic gear since it's an organized group or go solo in the basic level. Maybe even let the basic level FW match be a no squad thing for solo and new folks. Therefore, pubs is whatever goes and FW becomes the structured version of pubs. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:07:00 - [57] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: That sounds completely reasonable. I completely support a meta lock. Even better than meta lock is listing FW games according to site or planet level. Like FW sites (forgot the term) in EVE, there'd be a list of games randomly appearing under FW and you can join the one you like. These would also list the meta level. So, you feel like a challlenge that gives bigger rewards then join the proto level. Feel like cruising through a laid back fight with small rewards while you drink a beer then hit the basic level. Or, it would be the difference between running with a group, proto level, but still you could run basic gear since it's an organized group or go solo in the basic level. Maybe even let the basic level FW match be a no squad thing for solo and new folks. Therefore, pubs is whatever goes and FW becomes the structured version of pubs. I have been an advocate of this for a long time. Dust players should choose where they fight in FW based on where fights in EVE are happening in FW. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 162	Posted - 2015.10.29 06:03:00 - [58] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. That's not a fair assessment. What sounds more pathetic? Doing your best to win the game for you and your teammates, or just messing around and completely screwing over the 15 other players you're supposed to be helping because "I just don't care, man"? I also have no clue how trying hard ruins the concept of video games. They're supposed to be fun. I have fun when I'm giving it my all. I do occasionally enjoy playing a more relaxed style, but as a competitive person at heart, I like to win. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:03:00 - [59] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: I call tryhards the absolute twats that pull out their best proto/officer gear against std militia suits in pubs. Please elaborate how bringing proto out is bad? I bring out proto when I am losing so I can help my team come back. Also, proto is literally the only fun suits to wear, because basic myos suck and basically all basic modules are trash (with some exceptions.) I believe he may be referring to those who pull proto or officer gear out only when there's only 8 people left on the other side because the rest of the enemy team all quit, or when your team is obviously superior and the other team is getting rekt already. In an even, balanced match or when your team is losing and you are trying to fight back I don't see an issue with it. But when it's used for beating on an already dead team, it's a seriously wrong thing to do. That said, I run almost exclusively proto because for some reason the mu almost always puts me up against proto/officer squads. The reason I run it is to support my team because typically I see no other proto on my side. When I don't see proto or officer on the other side I'll either run my Adv Minmando with a PLC and Acr or my Apex Minassault with an Exile and Syndicate typically. When I end up in an ambush where the other team only has 3-5 people I'll throw on a proto suit and suicide into them to be sure they get their SP for the match and if they don't manage it I've been known to send them 1-3Mil just to make sure they aren't going to be that guy who decides to rage quit and delete the whole game that match. I've been doing my part for helping the other team to have a chance and for new players to hopefully stick around for a long time now because unlike many of us who've been here a long time, I haven't forgotten how hard things can be. (not saying that's you, just saying in general about the playerbase) Proto/Officer gear is a part of it, but so are core skills, adaptability available to us due to high SP, necessary modules for different tanking methods, weapon variety for range and DPS options, ISK availability, map familiarity, etc., etc., etc. It's easy to say they need to adapt and grind it out but things have never been so bad for new players than it is now and it will only get worse as more people continue to gain the advantages mentioned above. añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ *"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."* añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 08:12:00 - [60] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: jane stalin wrote: Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long, If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed. Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up? death glare at Blaze Without a good KDR, i need a good W/L ratio & average WP ratio. Determinator much? Yes Autistic Athletic Nerd 125/514

Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2015.10.29 12:27:00 - [61] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Are all the kids these days so emo that trying hard is no longer cool? Are we all just supposed to be apathetic all of the time? Should we all just start randomly shooting at each other without aiming? "Whoops aiming is too hard!" Should we all just sit in the MCCs? "Eh, I'd jump out, but then I'd have to hit the inertia dampener or die!" Better yet, maybe we just shouldn't spawn at all. "Pushing one button is too hard!" Yes, I goddamn try hard. I am on that field to win the fight, and make some ISK. Am I saying that you have to be OH SO SUPER SERIOUS? No! At the end of the day it still should be fun for you, and not another job. What I am saying is that it doesn't make sense to use "tryhard" as an insult. I suspect that it's just an excuse made up by people being stomped. "Oh, well I guess we're losing, but it's okay because I'm not even trying, and they're all trying so hard lololololololololo!!!!111OneONe" Probably about the same time "casual" became an insult... The river flows both way, chief
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:18:00 - [62] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: jane stalin wrote: Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long, If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed. Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up? death glare at Blaze *stares back Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:23:00 - [63] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: jane stalin wrote: Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long, If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed. Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up? death glare at Blaze stares back stares on these two and walk away schocked XD *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`


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