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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.28 04:37:00 -
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Some people are not willing to admit that there will sometimes be people on the other sides who want to win more than them.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:36:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long,
If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed.
Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up?
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:38:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:I call tryhards the absolute twats that pull out their best proto/officer gear against std militia suits in pubs.
Please elaborate how bringing proto out is bad? I bring out proto when I am losing so I can help my team come back. Also, proto is literally the only fun suits to wear, because basic myos suck and basically all basic modules are trash (with some exceptions.)
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:39:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:I try hard at everything I do..if you don't like it then you probably shouldn't get in bed with me..but you will anyways Oooooooh IGÇÖm so scared, you think youGÇÖre tough *****? IGÇÖm behind 7 proxies and use ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Comodo Internetnet Securtiy which I all keep up-to-date. THATGÇÖS THREE FIREWALLS AT THE SAME TIME ************. You canGÇÖt hack me you little piece of ****. YouGÇÖre peeshooter and kung fu wonGÇÖt make a difference when my friend wohGÇÖs a B-51 pilot in the Air Force can turn your entire house and backyard into a fuckhuge bomb crater. You are pathetic, while youGÇÖre sitting there writing insults like the sad little nerd you are iGÇÖm having sex with my hot girlfriends. Yeah you read that right, i have not one but FIVE girlfriends. Top that ************, I dont think youGÇÖve ever even held hands with a girl.
Go home, you're drunk.
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:40:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I think there is a distinction between your version of "try hard", which is respectable, and the derogatory version which is "run full fotm proto squads with officer gear when facing all noobs in pubs to get as many kills as possible and maybe we'll care about the win later cuz really its all bout dem lol kilz".
In my squads when we wear proto, it is usually right before a PC to get ready for it.
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Posted - 2015.10.28 17:17:00 -
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catsrule wrote:Killing players that have a minimal chance of fighting back and winning when proto gear is in play? Idaf what people think killing players without any means to die. It's fun, fighting players that can fight back? Fun and challenging, 0 f's given to what people think, killing / destroying stuff fun in general
You don't seems to understand. Fun and Dust 514 should not be used in the same sentence.
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Posted - 2015.10.29 02:55:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team.
So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off?
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Posted - 2015.10.29 03:11:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE.
They are not "trying hard", anyone who runs any suit does it because they like using that suit, it is like saying it is bad to eat bananas everyday, now I'm forcing you to eat mangos.
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Posted - 2015.10.29 04:47:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Always was an insult. It's a sad and pathetic mentality and ruins the spirit and concept of any video game. Need to try hard? Join a wrestling team. So, you would rather our team have 16 logis only running needles punching people in the face than to have a team that actually tries to win and not goof off? Tryhard has nothing to do with running assaults or lack thereof. It is the mentality with which someone plays. It is the polar ooposite of casual. Tryhards boil play down to spam, FOTM and exploiting mechanics. No need for anything other than the bare bones minimum items that win the game quickly and in as generic a fashion as possible. Those games are boring. This is the reason why stuff has to be constantly tweaked for balance. It's the difference between coalition big ship blob warfare and small corp, small scale ship fights in EVE. They are not "trying hard", anyone who runs any suit does it because they like using that suit, it is like saying it is bad to eat bananas everyday, now I'm forcing you to eat mangos. We're not talking about suits. We're talking mentality. You brought up logi suits as an example of not trying hard. I'm saying you can be an assault and be casual. Running an assault does not make you a tryhard. Likewise, running a logi doesnt mean you aren't. It's a matter of priority of focus on the gameplay. The tryhard mentality is great for competitive play like the competitions CCP holds with EVE. Tryhard is expected in a game mode like PC. I find it surprising in DUST FW considering that FW in EVE was made for new players that can't run better stuff and need a mode to jump right into a situation that provides ready made fights. I'd like to see FW be that in DUST with restrictions to gear or the matchmaking algorithms and therefore pubs could be the free for all arena brawl. PC is the competitive mode. Everyone involved is there for the push, push, push quick win progression. Then of course there could be brackets for FW based on gear tier. Like EVE FW, you have sites that allow a certain type of ship. These scale up.
That sounds completely reasonable. I completely support a meta lock.
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Posted - 2015.10.29 05:07:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote: That sounds completely reasonable. I completely support a meta lock. Even better than meta lock is listing FW games according to site or planet level. Like FW sites (forgot the term) in EVE, there'd be a list of games randomly appearing under FW and you can join the one you like. These would also list the meta level. So, you feel like a challlenge that gives bigger rewards then join the proto level. Feel like cruising through a laid back fight with small rewards while you drink a beer then hit the basic level. Or, it would be the difference between running with a group, proto level, but still you could run basic gear since it's an organized group or go solo in the basic level. Maybe even let the basic level FW match be a no squad thing for solo and new folks. Therefore, pubs is whatever goes and FW becomes the structured version of pubs.
I have been an advocate of this for a long time. Dust players should choose where they fight in FW based on where fights in EVE are happening in FW.
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Posted - 2015.10.29 17:18:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:jane stalin wrote:Squadding up and using proto in pub matches instead of FW is not an achievement it just makes the game dull (for both teams) and makes the FW wait time long,
If that is the only thing you want to do then do it, dull players are better than nothing just don't think anyone is impressed. Who said you need proto to try hard? And you are saying you want everyone to be anti-social and not squad up? *death glare at Blaze*
*stares back 
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