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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 11:54:00 - [1] - Quote How many mercs active on Dust514 have 0 participation in Planetary Conquest ?? I am asking as last night we randomly enlisted the support of Count- -Crotchula, who had a decent game with DMG vs a ringer team and after the match we discovered it was his first PC in 2 years !! How many other Dust514 mercs can relate to that ?? And more importantly ... why do so few bother to participate ?? Sure PC has it's downsides, but it is the only place on Dust where you can get proper battles and imo is content any merc on Dust514 should not be missing.. Your blueberries are accountable for their actions for once Why avoid it ?? - FW players..whatever you may fear of PC lag, in my experience FW is always worse for performance !!! So I get that lag is a big issue, though if you are in Corps for PC, leaving and rejoining matches can improve performance, and there are other various ways to clean up the PS3 system and try to get the most out of it .. not perfect, but it works - Tryhards.. this is probably a major issue for many players, no-one enjoys being turned into a molten pool of biomass and while there are some counters to teams who in short "got good" you will die for it, a lot. Teamwork can challenge even the best of teams, sure as hell they will kill you, but if you adapt.. weaker teams can certainly get results in tough PC's. Sadly imo, the greatest tactic in Dust is use the best 16 slayers you can get, rinse and repeat = WINNING ^^ As said above there are counters, but it gets messy for your team.. and expensive But DMG are one example of what a few slayers and a dedicated team can achieve, we have got results against the odds while also we have dragged many of us to hell and back as we keep faith with our players regardless of slaying ability... I'd be lying if I said it was all good times and paychecks.. but in the end we are here for the fights that is the content that matters. So, this is directed at the Players who are missing out.. why not take the leap and get involved ?? And, while we hear the PC communities view on it like a broken record.. what do the players outside think?? SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 11:58:00 - [2] - Quote TL;DR SOONtm
Leovarian L Lavitz TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 11:58:00 - [3] - Quote Nice corps should launch raids on pc districts xD Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto One V One Emperor
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 12:04:00 - [4] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Nice corps should launch raids on pc districts xD Should* But first, please have some respect for the fact, PC is meant for fighting.. "Raids" have offered no real content bar tripling the amount of no-show PC's. And most raiding.. have no idea what they are setting up for.. so it needs work... For teams raiding.. for the love of Dust, at least have a battle plan!! and a team to begin with !!! SOONtm
Piercing Serenity Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 12:31:00 - [5] - Quote I used to play with PFBHz, did a short stint in FA, then petered off. I haven't played a PC match in almost two years. To answer your question about why I don't bother with PC: Almost all of my friends that I started playing this game with have left, and it is difficult to motivate myself to play at the highest level of competition without some friendly support, banter, etc You have to plan too much time around it. Because there are so many experienced players, and so few slot on the roster, players need to be dedicating an extraordinary amount of time just to be considered for the PC queue. Then, you have to find a spot within the top 16 roster. Missing PCs, even if you don't play them, hurts your chances of getting to play them because you didn't bother to show up Lag. The whole game is laggy. You're experience with FW being "the most laggy" is as circumstantial as my experience with PC. Regardless of which game mode is worse, it's a huge letdown to go through all of the aforementioned steps only to go 5/10 because you were playing a slide show Pointlessness on two levels. On the largest scale, PC feels pointless because we're not doing anything. For most corps, you claim land in a glorified skirmish match (and I love skirmish) for a big pay check. That's it. That's all its ever been. And that's just gotten boring to me. On a smaller scale, PC is only "tumultuous" for the top corps. If you are a small, medium, new, or any combination of the three, I am of the opinion that all of those victories are hollow. You've "earned" the land because the top corps have not decided to take it from you. And this is not meant to bash top tier corps. They've done well with the system provided for them, and they should continue to play the hardest that they can. That's a few, anyway "For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most" Lv. 1 Forum Warrior
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 12:32:00 - [6] - Quote Me. What is PC ? I only know about personal computers.. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 13:52:00 - [7] - Quote there's no reason not to play, or maybe I get no FPS drops cos of SSD, new PS3 and fibre, I think it's all the videos and horror stories about 1fps, that put me off PC is where it's at, if you want the ultimate DUST experience where no-one ISN'T participating, where everyone is out for all-out war, then play PC, it's the greatest teamplay experience DUST has to offer, it beats playing solo and any other mode hands down no excuses guys >>>YouTube!<<<
dzizur Nos Nothi 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 13:56:00 - [8] - Quote Well, I played 2 PC's against I think your team yesterday. That were 4 and 5th my PC (not counting 2 no-shows) in my whole dust career (I have been playing for about 2 years now) Ill just paste my report from them here: "#47884Posted: 2015.10.07 07:07 played 2 PC yesterday. what a fuckin waste of time. First match lagged so match my bons was shooting as fast as a bolt pistol, frame drops everywhere. Thought: "ohkay, lets try something else" went to lowest resolution , deleted almost all fits (left 4), deleted all emails, contacts, left only 2 chat rooms, turned voice chat off. Result? Horrible graphics, lag and frame rate drops. So yeah, this game mode is so 1337 that you have to know where you will be ruberbanded when the next frame renders (and when does it really render) Oh and good I have a maxed out running/hacking scout. Because minass with SSD can hack the point before I'm halfway to it..." Also I ran a scout, as it's my favourite suit (have 3 of them to proto) I had to fill 3 of my 4 slots in a gal scout just to evade scans, which leaves me at HP = one PLC round splash damage. Minscout? pft, scanned all the damn time. It's not that scouts are UP or whatever. I just want to point at the balance at "top tier" which is "use the most OP stuff and spam everything with explosive weapons". I don't want to be forced into playing "PC viable" roles, but I have to if I want to win. As a sidenote, how raids are any different than PC's? it's the same thing...
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 13:59:00 - [9] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: I used to play with PFBHz, did a short stint in FA, then petered off. I haven't played a PC match in almost two years. To answer your question about why I don't bother with PC: Almost all of my friends that I started playing this game with have left, and it is difficult to motivate myself to play at the highest level of competition without some friendly support, banter, etc You have to plan too much time around it. Because there are so many experienced players, and so few slot on the roster, players need to be dedicating an extraordinary amount of time just to be considered for the PC queue. Then, you have to find a spot within the top 16 roster. Missing PCs, even if you don't play them, hurts your chances of getting to play them because you didn't bother to show up Lag. The whole game is laggy. You're experience with FW being "the most laggy" is as circumstantial as my experience with PC. Regardless of which game mode is worse, it's a huge letdown to go through all of the aforementioned steps only to go 5/10 because you were playing a slide show Pointlessness on two levels. On the largest scale, PC feels pointless because we're not doing anything. For most corps, you claim land in a glorified skirmish match (and I love skirmish) for a big pay check. That's it. That's all its ever been. And that's just gotten boring to me. On a smaller scale, PC is only "tumultuous" for the top corps. If you are a small, medium, new, or any combination of the three, I am of the opinion that all of those victories are hollow. You've "earned" the land because the top corps have not decided to take it from you. And this is not meant to bash top tier corps. They've done well with the system provided for them, and they should continue to play the hardest that they can. That's a few, anyway I love the gameplay and level of competition that PC can offer, when it works. Piercing Serenity's points two, three and four are what keep me out of PC. Point four removes the will to participate/engage: Dust is my first shooter, i came here for New Eden, not for a half-baked lobby shooter. Point two - I PC'd a fair bit in the beginning, but with the game in it's current death march state i cannot justify the time that PC participation takes away from family. Point Three serves as a large multiplier that amplifies the frustrations that come from Points two and four. Even on PC or PS4 this argument does not substantially change. CCP will need to resume stewardship of their game before we see any real improvement, imo. PSN: RationalSpark
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:01:00 - [10] - Quote dzizur wrote: Well, I played 2 PC's against I think your team yesterday. That were 4 and 5th my PC (not counting 2 no-shows) in my whole dust career (I have been playing for about 2 years now) Ill just paste my report from them here: "#47884Posted: 2015.10.07 07:07 played 2 PC yesterday. what a fuckin waste of time. First match lagged so match my bons was shooting as fast as a bolt pistol, frame drops everywhere. Thought: "ohkay, lets try something else" went to lowest resolution , deleted almost all fits (left 4), deleted all emails, contacts, left only 2 chat rooms, turned voice chat off. Result? Horrible graphics, lag and frame rate drops. So yeah, this game mode is so 1337 that you have to know where you will be ruberbanded when the next frame renders (and when does it really render) Oh and good I have a maxed out running/hacking scout. Because minass with SSD can hack the point before I'm halfway to it..." Also I ran a scout, as it's my favourite suit (have 3 of them to proto) I had to fill 3 of my 4 slots in a gal scout just to evade scans, which leaves me at HP = one PLC round splash damage. Minscout? pft, scanned all the damn time. It's not that scouts are UP or whatever. I just want to point at the balance at "top tier" which is "use the most OP stuff and spam everything with explosive weapons". I don't want to be forced into playing "PC viable" roles, but I have to if I want to win. As a sidenote, how raids are any different than PC's? it's the same thing... Did you get server? Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!

Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:13:00 - [11] - Quote dzizur wrote: complaining sorry to hear it, get a new PS3, get a wired fibre optic connection, install nothing but DUST, set trophies to offline mode, install an SSD. I did and had 0 problems whatsoever in PC, in fact I get a higher frame rate than most. >>>YouTube!<<<
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:14:00 - [12] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: dzizur wrote: complaining sorry to hear it, get a new PS3, get a wired fibre optic connection, install nothing but DUST, set trophies to offline mode, install an SSD. I did and had 0 problems whatsoever in PC, in fact I get a higher frame rate than most. Putting your trophies in offline mode helps a lot. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 897	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:22:00 - [13] - Quote Nearly every PC match I've played has devolved into a slideshow I'm not sure how much is Australian internet or Dust lag ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:34:00 - [14] - Quote I am, quite simply, a filthy, filthy casual. I just can't commit to playing Dust at a certain hour. What if the phone rings?
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 840	Posted - 2015.10.07 14:50:00 - [15] - Quote I've taken part in maybe 3 PCs, not counting no-shows, in my career as a merc. For me the main issue is timers on maps vs the time zone I'm in. Most of the PCs I've been offered a spot in have been between 4am and 6am for me, which makes it difficult (if not impossible) to take part when these PCs fall mid-week. Purifier. First Class.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:06:00 - [16] - Quote In 2 years I've only done 1 PC and I was a ringer. I want to do PC with Corp but people don't want to point. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
dzizur Nos Nothi 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:08:00 - [17] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: dzizur wrote: complaining sorry to hear it, get a new PS3, get a wired fibre optic connection, install nothing but DUST, set trophies to offline mode, install an SSD. I did and had 0 problems whatsoever in PC, in fact I get a higher frame rate than most. Yeah, the irony... People bitched about port to PC (as a computer) because you apparently you need to buy all that additional stuff. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the tips, but in no effin way I'm going to spend cash on new hardware and what not just to play a game that's on life support, that's just stupid. As for fiber optic.. heh, somehow all the games play just fine, but dust needs a better connection? lol EDIT: I haven't tried with trophies though, I'm turning it off right now to see how it works EDIT2 : apparently my trophie settings have been always "OFF"...
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 9	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:13:00 - [18] - Quote Last time i did PC my mailbox broke and the tears flooded out onto my PS3 now it is just to laggy to play PC :( Or at least that is what im assuming happen. I'm kind of a big deal. Buying dead and inactive corporations
Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:38:00 - [19] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: How many mercs active on Dust514 have 0 participation in Planetary Conquest ?? I am asking as last night we randomly enlisted the support of Count- -Crotchula, who had a decent game with DMG vs a ringer team and after the match we discovered it was his first PC in 2 years !! How many other Dust514 mercs can relate to that ?? And more importantly ... why do so few bother to participate ?? Sure PC has it's downsides, but it is the only place on Dust where you can get proper battles and imo is content any merc on Dust514 should not be missing.. Your blueberries are accountable for their actions for once Why avoid it ?? - FW players..whatever you may fear of PC lag, in my experience FW is always worse for performance !!! So I get that lag is a big issue, though if you are in Corps for PC, leaving and rejoining matches can improve performance, and there are other various ways to clean up the PS3 system and try to get the most out of it .. not perfect, but it works - Tryhards.. this is probably a major issue for many players, no-one enjoys being turned into a molten pool of biomass and while there are some counters to teams who in short "got good" you will die for it, a lot. Teamwork can challenge even the best of teams, sure as hell they will kill you, but if you adapt.. weaker teams can certainly get results in tough PC's. Sadly imo, the greatest tactic in Dust is use the best 16 slayers you can get, rinse and repeat = WINNING ^^ As said above there are counters, but it gets messy for your team.. and expensive But DMG are one example of what a few slayers and a dedicated team can achieve, we have got results against the odds while also we have dragged many of us to hell and back as we keep faith with our players regardless of slaying ability... I'd be lying if I said it was all good times and paychecks.. but in the end we are here for the fights that is the content that matters. So, this is directed at the Players who are missing out.. why not take the leap and get involved ?? And, while we hear the PC communities view on it like a broken record.. what do the players outside think?? I thought you quit. Dust User for CPM 3.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:39:00 - [20] - Quote Regarding the connection.. and ways to improve it. I play PC pretty regularly, with no SSD.. I think one point in my favour is the Super Slim PS3. Add to that - delete all mails+contacts - my PS3 consists of dust and Dust - less than 10 suit fittings. That is literally all I do, along with a decent fiber connection (which at this stage should not be uncommon) The majority of DMG, are the same (not using SSD) and most don't bother with the system clean-ups or limiting fittings (Varoth Drac I'm looking in your direction!) so I would argue that while these things suggested hand a benefit, not essential. - dzizur, I was in that team against you (Standby Retaliation V Made In Poland) And judging by your experience in that fight.. we most likely had server advantage, it's a kick in the nuts and my most HATED dust mechanic, that one team is handed an advantage via server, even so, in battles where we are against the server you can still play and this is where being in a PC Corp really helps, as a guy lagging can back-out, and either rejoin or be replaced by a TCO on standby.. So yes there are some blood rituals involving goats.. but that's part of it at this stage. (re-joining PC's certainly has a good effect on game performance 70% of the time) - stefan, for shame.. I just ignore my phone and hope lil timmy doesn't fall down a well. The time commitment is harsh and unpredictable when defending districts, attacks can land any day forcing teams to either get replacements, lose a district or just take a beatdown as you are missing key players, but again, having a PC Corp is useful here as you can vary the teams or squad leaders when some cannot make the battles. - Mega / Lightning / Juno Timezones are a pain, the only Corp on Australian suited timers is WarRavens and they seem to have peace agreements with with the Asian TZ Corps, so the main challenge for activity in that TZ is neutral = not many battles. Some players will have to accept to particpate they may need to change Corps to a more suitable TZ, or make the effort of arranging them yourself with your friends.. there is no way around it other than taking the leap into Corp activity. Thanks for the feedback I hope more is added, who knows, maybe someone at CCP will take notice. PC 2.0 was about increasing PC activity for those previously blocked out by the players, so if CCP have any sense they will take the casual players views into acount. Despite any hardships in getting PC activity, it is the best mode available for Dust514 SOONtm

Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:42:00 - [21] - Quote Ive only just recently been doing pc and its fun unless i get lag sickness. Im a logi but i keep getting slayer roles because of what i do in pub matches. Plus im bad. TBD ringleader \| Yep Squad Spokesman
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:43:00 - [22] - Quote I can't speak for everyone else but I imagine it is one simple thing. LAG. FPS drops, game lag what ever it may be. That is the single factor that stops me participating much mate. By the way I did say that Count is a pretty good player, get him in! Oh yea plus I'm bad too. This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:44:00 - [23] - Quote Dust User wrote: I thought you quit. It was close, was -20hours away from disbanding DMG (had to wait after removing roles to torch the place) as old leadership is long since inactive and the current guys are here to fight not play e-diplomacy with a game full of d-bags. But, a long term Dust buddy and intimate partner Regnier Feros is taking the lead, while I focus on whats important = being TheD1CK SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:45:00 - [24] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I can't speak for everyone else but I imagine it is one simple thing. LAG. FPS drops, game lag what ever it may be. That is the single factor that stops me participating much mate. By the way I did say that Count is a pretty good player, get him in! Have you passed your G.O.A.T ? SOONtm
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:51:00 - [25] - Quote dzizur wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: dzizur wrote: complaining sorry to hear it, get a new PS3, get a wired fibre optic connection, install nothing but DUST, set trophies to offline mode, install an SSD. I did and had 0 problems whatsoever in PC, in fact I get a higher frame rate than most. Yeah, the irony... People bitched about port to PC (as a computer) because you apparently you need to buy all that additional stuff. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the tips, but in no effin way I'm going to spend cash on new hardware and what not just to play a game that's on life support, that's just stupid. As for fiber optic.. heh, somehow all the games play just fine, but dust needs a better connection? lol EDIT: I haven't tried with trophies though, I'm turning it off right now to see how it works EDIT2 : apparently my trophie settings have been always "OFF"... I don't blame you at all, you shouldn't have to, I did, because, well I don't know how I feel about it now all valid complaints and you're right they should NOT be rectified through spending a tonne of cash why should that be the answer? well DUST shouldn't need a better connection, on ADSL on a 8mb line it has enough downstream or upstream but if it's a shared network you need the extra bandwidth. >>>YouTube!<<<
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:52:00 - [26] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I can't speak for everyone else but I imagine it is one simple thing. LAG. FPS drops, game lag what ever it may be. That is the single factor that stops me participating much mate. By the way I did say that Count is a pretty good player, get him in! Have you passed your G.O.A.T ? Its been a long time since I did that if you mean fallout lol. Otherwise ehh.. u wot m8? This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:52:00 - [27] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I can't speak for everyone else but I imagine it is one simple thing. LAG. FPS drops, game lag what ever it may be. That is the single factor that stops me participating much mate. By the way I did say that Count is a pretty good player, get him in! Oh yea plus I'm bad too. way back when manboar wanted me to join and PC when he saw me with ak0, we would group quite a bit I miss that guy but in all honesty I was too scared and only just got the ak0. I'm going to stay as a merc now because I want to keep the MAG and Tamsen legacy alive, it means a lot to me but I'm in chat channels and will play PC for any corp and always run proto. >>>YouTube!<<<
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: TheD1CK wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I can't speak for everyone else but I imagine it is one simple thing. LAG. FPS drops, game lag what ever it may be. That is the single factor that stops me participating much mate. By the way I did say that Count is a pretty good player, get him in! Have you passed your G.O.A.T ? Its been a long time since I did that if you mean fallout lol. Otherwise ehh.. u wot m8? Someone get this man a goat! and can we please make sure it's a virgin this time??! glares at LHughes SOONtm
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 16:00:00 - [29] - Quote I want a goat.... Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 16:01:00 - [30] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I want a goat.... I wish I was a goat.. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 16:03:00 - [31] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I want a goat.... Sorry, your parents don't like blood on video games.. they would not approve of what goes into the goat. Anyway, as I derail my own thread, let's get back on topic. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ *- How many of you do not participate in PC, and why ?* SOONtm
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 16:42:00 - [32] - Quote Hey D1CK, we need to knife duel sometime. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 6	Posted - 2015.10.07 16:46:00 - [33] - Quote Because the original idea of links to Eve is now scrapped Because it's a laggy pos Because timers make it naught but carebear style organised matches Because some corps simply have too much isk to ever compete Because instead of actually being mercs tied in to Eve, we're mercs that hire mercs and fight over irrelevant space with no ties to Eve, in a game on an irrelevant platform with no word on whether this game will rise above its irrelevancy Did i mention that it is a laggy pos? Summary No sane person would waste their time on any of that. I am GJRs Renfield. You heard it here first, I told you so.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:02:00 - [34] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: No sane person would waste their time on Dust514 in the first place. So luckily for us, the playerbase is lacking sanity.. perfect for PC. Your point on the rich having to much an advantage to compete is very true, I agree In PC the word "war" is a joke.. as the same group have won almost each war, just further buffing their funds and at this stage a lot of the top players in the game are just attracted to join the same Corps, not compete with them while it does kill some of the activity, there can still be fights involving all players if they take the steps to get involved... Which for most is.. - check starmap - find top % holder - hop on the wagon - profit It's a shame, the most competitive players on Dust are also the least competitive players on Dust Only with CCP could this logic make any sense SOONtm
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 417	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:06:00 - [35] - Quote I have pushed my Corp into doing PCs. Raiding is a great start because it removes the need to get the top tiered players from your corp and gives everyone a chance to try it out. I am a vet from long ago so I remember when we barely had the SP for proto guns and proto suits, so an advanced suit with proto gun was king. Now people have 100s of millions of SP. The raids should be performed by as many corps as can initiate them, and put your squad in public with the ETA, Raid and Challenger. I have done that so many times now, every weekend I have random people flocking to me asking me when I am running my next PC. I FC these and the best strategy is to follow the below steps: Break up the team into 2-3 groups (If I get pubs, I go from the position of your name unless you have a function) Tell that team what type of role they will play (Assault team (Light and Fast), Defense Team (1 AV, Couple logis, HMG), etc.) Tell people where they are spawning in at Assume players know what they are doing Be funny and have fun - You are getting beat, call out who is dying and what was funny, call for vengeance, mix it up Know you are going to lose most likely and walk in knowing that - This needs to be at the for front of the conversation (This is not a super serious PC. We will try to flip but aren't expecting it. Not saying this pisses people off.) FCing is a thankless job that sucks ballz. The result though is making more friends in Dust and getting some respect. Hell, we are starting to run raids back to back so we can hammer them out. If you think you aren't good enough for a PC, message me and I will drag you into one and test it out. You may lose, but you get to walk out on the field in pads. The Miami Dolphins always suit up, so why can't you! "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 6	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:10:00 - [36] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: No sane person would waste their time on Dust514 in the first place. So luckily for us, the playerbase is lacking sanity.. perfect for PC. Your point on the rich having to much an advantage to compete is very true, I agree In PC the word "war" is a joke.. as the same group have won almost each war, just further buffing their funds and at this stage a lot of the top players in the game are just attracted to join the same Corps, not compete with them while it does kill some of the activity, there can still be fights involving all players if they take the steps to get involved... Which for most is.. - check starmap - find top % holder - hop on the wagon - profit It's a shame, the most competitive players on Dust are also the least competitive players on Dust Only with CCP could this logic make any sense PC is a huge amount of time for a seriously carebear pos game mode. There are timers and the dregs can get ahead by hiring people to fight for them. There are too many safety nets and scrub tactics that win for pc to be taken seriously. That is why a lot of potentially competitive players do not care. I am however insane enough to hang around hoping for a port of straight up platform change and development. I am GJRs Renfield. You heard it here first, I told you so.
Jade Dragonis GRIM MERCS 484	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:29:00 - [37] - Quote All I will be doing with my CP is once I have enough to run a raid then I will gahter some friends and go have some fun. It will be a bring what you like match.... We loose then we loose.... Fecal matter happens.... Follow me on Youtube
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 460	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:34:00 - [38] - Quote I've never done a pc CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:38:00 - [39] - Quote I've only played one PC since I've been back playing. It was fun, lost the battle but won the war so to speak since they didn't have enough clones for a follow up attack. Didn't experience any lag myself and both teams giving 100% and got a very nice payout. Those guys corp is pretty big so it was just by chance that they had a need for a couple of ringers, probably only got into it because Whitsy vouched for me as well. Other than them I don't associate with any PC active corps and some I wouldn't want to even if they paid me an absurd amount of ISK. Then there's the fact I only get to play a few hours at night without a lot of background noise, I could play in the afternoon and all day on the weekends but nobody wants to here all that noise and I don't do push to talk because I always forget it's on. Of than that I wouldn't mind doing more PC's, just don't get the opportunity often. Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:42:00 - [40] - Quote Casual corp, no reason to raid, no desire to hold districts. The couple PCs we did when raiding first came in required us to find ringers (low activity corp). I'd hoped the activity would increase as we did more and more, but it didn't happen. Plus I'm an average player, I don't have ISK coming out of my ears, and I will soon go broke running full proto in PC. That said, I did have fun, but clearly not enough to keep doing it (and the lack of activity increase from my corp mates suggests the same) PS. As an aside, the exploits in the past, as well as the exploits that exist now, means I am also disillusioned with the whole thing. This post has been liked by XxBlazikenxX

Dust User Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.07 17:59:00 - [41] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Dust User wrote: I thought you quit. It was close, was -20hours away from disbanding DMG (had to wait after removing roles to torch the place) as old leadership is long since inactive and the current guys are here to fight not play e-diplomacy with a game full of d-bags. But, a long term Dust buddy and intimate partner Regnier Feros is taking the lead, while I focus on whats important = being TheD1CK You should have stayed away. Life is better once you remove dust from it. The only thing I miss is creating tear farms with my friends so I do hop on every now and then and instigate funny mails. Dust User for CPM 3.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 392	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:17:00 - [42] - Quote DMG I'm going to launch an attack on you guys this weekend if possible. Mind you I will be using mostly noobs that I pick up from the Learning Coalition \0/
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:50:00 - [43] - Quote There's really no sandbox so it's become boring. There's nothing to look forward to, no meta, no real politics going on. Even in the beginning it was like this, although it did bring us some nice events, but really it's only be a one direction type of system. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:53:00 - [44] - Quote just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. >>>YouTube!<<<
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:55:00 - [45] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. There are three different maps with three different large sockets so 9 different environments. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:56:00 - [46] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. Depends on the type of facility they have built there Can't remember which is which though but there are a few different maps. Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:56:00 - [47] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. There are three different maps with three different large sockets so 9 different environments. cool thanks man have a like back, were you the guy from PE who contacted me on youtube? could have been someone else. had the same one twice now knowing my luck I'll play for 10 different corps and get the same map 10 times in a row :P hell it's PC so I'll take it >>>YouTube!<<<
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 18:59:00 - [48] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. There are three different maps with three different large sockets so 9 different environments. cool thanks man have a like back, were you the guy from PE who contacted me on youtube? could have been someone else. had the same one twice now knowing my luck I'll play for 10 different corps and get the same map 10 times in a row :P hell it's PC so I'll take it yep that was me. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:41:00 - [49] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Why do so few bother to participate ?? The same things I have been saying for the entire life of PC still apply. No one wants to make Dust feel even more like a job. (Oh no I logged in late and missed my duty for the day!!) Lag fest 90% of the time. Say FW lags just as bad all you want but it is no where near as bad nor is it only once per day on a schedule meaning when the lag hits you have wasted 100% of your effort. Ringers. If by some miracle you sludge through the lag and win the other corp is just going to throw a tantrum and grab the bat phone meaning al of your effort was lost anyway. No real reward. The average mid level player is probably not going to go isk positive for the battle thanks to inexperience and LAG. No one wants to play the kiss ass politics to go into PC with a higher level corp. This leaves the options of getting your ass kicked from inexperience among your whole team or just hoping to get lucky and go into a PC on occasion where you and the FC have little experience with each other so you end up spending the whole match just playing keep up with the regulars. Did I mention no one wants to make Dust feel more like a job? Well I think that just about covers it. PC has been a very broken concept as a game mode from day 1 and shows zero signs of a revival thanks to a skeleton crew being unable to do a total rebuild. The new system just turns newbies into CP farms while totally limiting what any one corp can actually do. Now ringers are even more popular with small corps thanks to them trying to get all they can out of limited CP. This is why people cried so hard for 16 man squads in FW. People want to be able to play proper competitive matches some where in this game and currently that simply does not exist. The reason corp battles don't come back is because participation in PC would instantly reach an all time low and be nothing but a haven for farmers while every one else has fun in real matches. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:49:00 - [50] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. There are three different maps with three different large sockets so 9 different environments. cool thanks man have a like back, were you the guy from PE who contacted me on youtube? could have been someone else. had the same one twice now knowing my luck I'll play for 10 different corps and get the same map 10 times in a row :P hell it's PC so I'll take it yep that was me. a few guys want me so I'm going to be an ice queen and play hard to get hhaa do you have a pub channel and what is your stance on ringers? I would like to just remain a free merc for hire! >>>YouTube!<<<

Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:50:00 - [51] - Quote why so much complaining about the ultimate competitive mode where you will meet the best most ruthless players fielding the best gear? are y'all scared? that's right I sad y'all, it's serious now. Valid complaints about frame rate aside, any other complaints not relating to performance are just excuses to not get your ass kicked. >>>YouTube!<<<
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:56:00 - [52] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: just played another PC, is it all on the same map? again, no frame rate or server issues at all, flawless, come on guys JOIN UP! any more tonight? in my time zone? UK GMT timezone. There are three different maps with three different large sockets so 9 different environments. cool thanks man have a like back, were you the guy from PE who contacted me on youtube? could have been someone else. had the same one twice now knowing my luck I'll play for 10 different corps and get the same map 10 times in a row :P hell it's PC so I'll take it yep that was me. a few guys want me so I'm going to be an ice queen and play hard to get hhaa do you have a pub channel and what is your stance on ringers? I would like to just remain a free merc for hire! We prefer to use only our own people and if we summer have enough then we use alliance members. So no we don't need ringers since there are a decent amount in alliance chat. Our pub chat is iEVIL Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:57:00 - [53] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: why so much complaining about the ultimate competitive mode where you will meet the best most ruthless players fielding the best gear? are y'all scared? that's right I sad y'all, it's serious now. Valid complaints about frame rate aside, any other complaints not relating to performance are just excuses to not get your ass kicked. ^ Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.07 19:57:00 - [54] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: why so much complaining about the ultimate competitive mode where you will meet the best most ruthless players fielding the best gear? are y'all scared? that's right I sad y'all, it's serious now. Valid complaints about frame rate aside, any other complaints not relating to performance are just excuses to not get your ass kicked. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA GASPPPPP HAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHA Hold on let me catch my breath. Fighting the same ringers over and over is hardly the ultimate competition. It is pretty clear you guys are just looking for new ISK to farm out of small corps. Take it back over to the war room no one cares about the most broken of all broken game modes. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 20:20:00 - [55] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: why so much complaining about the ultimate competitive mode where you will meet the best most ruthless players fielding the best gear? are y'all scared? that's right I sad y'all, it's serious now. Valid complaints about frame rate aside, any other complaints not relating to performance are just excuses to not get your ass kicked. Don't worry about those evil syndicate guys. No one really likes them and they stay away from PC for the most part. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 20:40:00 - [56] - Quote Why do I want to schedule a match 48 hrs in advance against (insert corp here)? I fight (insert corp here) in pubs often enough. I have plenty of Isk. Who cares about internet "bragging rights" against (insert corp here). If you are a corp with the manpower to reliably have 20 - 30 members on any given night, good on you. Then having a PC is just as easy as racking up CP and giving the Corpies something to do. If your corp that doesn't have more than 16 people it can reliably call upon, then taking a district in PC is a futile waste of time. If waiting 48 hrs for a scheduled match that has zero consequence is going to be a waste of time, why bother with PC? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:29:00 - [57] - Quote Damn I got here late. Anyway, for those that want to participate in PC but don't know how to reduce lag like most veteran PC players here is my thread about reducing lag. Those are all of the methods I have accumulated in my 2 years 5 months of playing PC, many of which can be quickly and inexpensively performed. One more thing I have to add when it comes to PC is that resetting your client via quitting game and relaunching dust is the most effective way of reducing frame rate drops, something most people suffer from. The best time to do it is AS SOON AS YOU LOAD INTO THE WARBARGE. The countdown timer on the warbarge should be at approx 7 mins, giving you plenty of time to do a quick reset and make your way back into the warbarge with a couple minutes to spare. The Official Ari QQ Thread
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:41:00 - [58] - Quote No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:42:00 - [59] - Quote True Adamance wrote: No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. But what if that player corporation (or alliance hint hint) represented the Amarr Empire? Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:46:00 - [60] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. But what if that player corporation (or alliance hint hint) represented the Amarr Empire? No one but PIE actually represents to Empire to my personal standards. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.07 21:47:00 - [61] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. But what if that player corporation (or alliance hint hint) represented the Amarr Empire? No one but PIE actually represents to Empire to my personal standards. To "your" standards. The world does not conform to "your" standards. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.07 22:27:00 - [62] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. But what if that player corporation (or alliance hint hint) represented the Amarr Empire? No one but PIE actually represents to Empire to my personal standards. To "your" standards. The world does not conform to "your" standards. They aren't really my standards so much as they are the tenets by which God expects us to live. In time everyone will be expected to live up to those ideals, its inevitable, the Amarr will make it so. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Booby Tuesdays Bad Mother Thukkers 1	Posted - 2015.10.07 23:21:00 - [63] - Quote Back in the day, I was probably in about 5 PC's a day, 5 days a week minimum. From PC's inception to the infamous DNS 100% attempt. Then Fanfest and Scout 514 and uber heavy spam happened, and I didn't PC as much. The burn out was real. When vets ***** about the second job, we aren't kidding. I started PC'ing again about 6 months back, but then little girl high school drama ended that pretty quick, as I have zero tolerance for that crap and even less desire to hop from corp to corp just to PC. Haven't been in a PC since. Do I miss it? Sometimes. Often enough to put up with the BS? Nope. Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.07 23:33:00 - [64] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: No desire to own space in the backwater hell hole that is Molden Heath. Logistics are just not particularly good for a group like PIE to operate in. Also no desire to spend lot of ISK to do what I can fundamentally do in FW for free, also no aspiration to represent a player corporation over the Amarr Empire. But what if that player corporation (or alliance hint hint) represented the Amarr Empire? No one but PIE actually represents to Empire to my personal standards. To "your" standards. The world does not conform to "your" standards. They aren't really my standards so much as they are the tenets by which God expects us to live. In time everyone will be expected to live up to those ideals, its inevitable, the Amarr will make it so. Unfortunately the Dust gods have deemed only a **** hole in minmatar space to be worthy of ground based distribution. For the time one could settle for taking ground and space from the minmatar directly in the name of what is holy. I have and still do wish to take on that pursuit in the name of the Empire but broken mechanics and a broken game has ended up pushing me away from both games for the most part. FIX YAH GAME CCP....... The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
xavier zor XxAMBUSH FTWxX 2	Posted - 2015.10.08 00:15:00 - [65] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Nearly every PC match I've played has devolved into a slideshow I'm not sure how much is Australian internet or Dust lag im in Australia, it's dust not us! sLaYeR I'm a knifing pussy ^-^/
jdom503 world wide killaz 16	Posted - 2015.10.08 01:02:00 - [66] - Quote I think alot has to do with the fc, I've ran with guys that chill but are prepared and have had fun even in defeat. But you get those that are high strung before it starts and that just brings morale down and just makes for a frustrating time. I think there's to many of the latter and it just turns people off to pcs. I think this is suppose to be fun, I think the more people try and just have fun then more will be willing to partake.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.08 01:42:00 - [67] - Quote If you have fun while being an fc you're doing it wrong. Fcs main goals (besides strategy) should be bring cool and collected no matter what happens. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
jdom503 world wide killaz 16	Posted - 2015.10.08 01:50:00 - [68] - Quote I think there should be additional perks to owning a district. Like some sort of ability to train teammates. Let district owners have the ability to jump on the owned district and actually show how to do things instead of just having to do it by word of mouth. Also maybe some way of setting up turrets and crus. Maybe something else but giving out perks would make people interested again. That's just my opinion.
dzizur Nos Nothi 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 06:22:00 - [69] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: If you have fun while being an fc you're doing it wrong. Fcs main goals (besides strategy) should be bring cool and collected no matter what happens. O.o who in the right mind wants to be FC then?:P
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 419	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:22:00 - [70] - Quote dzizur wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: If you have fun while being an fc you're doing it wrong. Fcs main goals (besides strategy) should be bring cool and collected no matter what happens. O.o who in the right mind wants to be FC then?:P Blaziken - You are funny. The main problem with being an FC is that you have to saddle the blame for the losses, acknowledge your best players, and sometimes you have to be the Ahole who has to straighten people out (I have had to do that only a couple of times). If you have never had that issue, you aren't using randoms too often. A lot of us have to deal with that. Being FC is also satisfying because you feel needed. You are in charge. The problem is that too often there is a power struggle between the FC and people who want to be in charge. Also the FC has to show up early and organize everyone, talk about a job! I love FCing because I get respect as someone who can kill and still command. I respect other FCs because I know they can play the giant chess game. The problem is you are Cortana and everyone wants to be the Master Chief. BTW - Booby Tuesday - I remember you. Yeah, you leashed me a lot back in the day. I am sending you an invite to a PC I run! Then you can enjoy sitting back and simply show off your skills. "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?

benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 841	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:50:00 - [71] - Quote This is really amarr vs min FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Amarr_vs_Minmatar This is really cal vs gal FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Caldari_vs_Gallente To anyone that says they are fighting the good FW fight and although the community dominates cal and Amarr FW our FW contribution ain't ****. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 842	Posted - 2015.10.08 18:28:00 - [72] - Quote What's my point? We the pc community claim our rightful sovereignty. Pledge your alliegance to a faction. Amarr, blood raiders doesnt matter. Read up on the lore. Turn MH into a battleground of more than our epeens. Use your EvE alts on their intergalactic summit. But IMHO a Minmatar owned region ruled on the ground by Amarrian slavers would be the biggest troll on CCP to... Pay attention. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Alaika Arbosa 2	Posted - 2015.10.08 18:47:00 - [73] - Quote Active players with 0 PC experience? Raises hand I <3 introducing reddots to ragdoll physics!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.08 19:49:00 - [74] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: This is really amarr vs min FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Amarr_vs_Minmatar This is really cal vs gal FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Caldari_vs_Gallente To anyone that says they are fighting the good FW fight and although the community dominates cal and Amarr FW our FW contribution ain't ***. Yeah but we've known that for year now. In 2013 FW was competitive and people actually cared....... that ended with 1.7 and FW only went down hill from there. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.08 19:51:00 - [75] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: What's my point? We the pc community claim our rightful sovereignty. Pledge your alliegance to a faction. Amarr, blood raiders doesnt matter. Read up on the lore. Turn MH into a battleground of more than our epeens. Use your EvE alts on their intergalactic summit. But IMHO a Minmatar owned region ruled on the ground by Amarrian slavers would be the biggest troll on CCP to... Pay attention. As I have said Jerry I thought your idea to Reclaim Molden Heath was cool but the region is a **** hole. It has no value. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Alaika Arbosa 2	Posted - 2015.10.08 20:10:00 - [76] - Quote True Adamance wrote: benandjerrys wrote: This is really amarr vs min FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Amarr_vs_Minmatar This is really cal vs gal FW http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Caldari_vs_Gallente To anyone that says they are fighting the good FW fight and although the community dominates cal and Amarr FW our FW contribution ain't ****. Yeah but we've known that for year now. In 2013 FW was competitive and people actually cared....... that ended with 1.7 and FW only went down hill from there. I remember giving a damn back then, I do less so currently. Also, Molden Heath isn't so much of a shithole, you just need to be creative with what you're looking for I <3 introducing reddots to ragdoll physics!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 843	Posted - 2015.10.08 23:21:00 - [77] - Quote It has no value. Except for us. What have we done to increase its value? ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Alaika Arbosa 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 00:00:00 - [78] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: It has no value. Except for us. What have we done to increase its value? Is that directed at me? If so, I never stated that it had value, I simply said that it "wasn't so much of a shithole" and " you need to be creative with what you're looking for" Now, having cleared that up, IMHO, Molden Heath is worthless to a purely Dust corporation. However, if you're a hybrid alliance or corp and are looking for a nice home base for piracy. It is a middle ground between Empire and 0.0, I am sure that could create more value to the right people. Only way it will ever mean anything real though is for Eve and Dust to be truly interdependent upon one another. I <3 introducing reddots to ragdoll physics!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:43:00 - [79] - Quote Now if EvE side was completely divorced from controlling the sov on our turf that would change things. Not saying we all are pos's on pushing content but if focus drifted off nerf this buff that arguments and more toward how can we the community enable our devs to give us a tangible sandbox... We might get a ball rolling. Tl;Dr if it sounded ranty earlier it was just rushed spitballing. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:44:00 - [80] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Now if EvE side was completely divorced from controlling the sov on our turf that would change things. Not saying we all are pos's on pushing content but if focus drifted off nerf this buff that arguments and more toward how can we the community enable our devs to give us a tangible sandbox... We might get a ball rolling. Tl;Dr if it sounded ranty earlier it was just rushed spitballing. That actually sounds intriguing. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!

benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:50:00 - [81] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Now if EvE side was completely divorced from controlling the sov on our turf that would change things. Not saying we all are pos's on pushing content but if focus drifted off nerf this buff that arguments and more toward how can we the community enable our devs to give us a tangible sandbox... We might get a ball rolling. Tl;Dr if it sounded ranty earlier it was just rushed spitballing. That actually sounds intriguing. They kill pos mechanics then the last link is gone. Sure you can ob but the interaction is limited. The ground control wins the war the Navy just softens the target. Anyone who is a ob pilot is either doing it out of love... Or has no idea wtf is actually profitable if EvE side only. Making the piracy up above MH quite entertaining and dare I say scrubby. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:54:00 - [82] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Now if EvE side was completely divorced from controlling the sov on our turf that would change things. Not saying we all are pos's on pushing content but if focus drifted off nerf this buff that arguments and more toward how can we the community enable our devs to give us a tangible sandbox... We might get a ball rolling. Tl;Dr if it sounded ranty earlier it was just rushed spitballing. That actually sounds intriguing. They kill pos mechanics then the last link is gone. Sure you can ob but the interaction is limited. The ground control wins the war the Navy just softens the target. Anyone who is a ob pilot is either doing it out of love... Or has no idea wtf is actually profitable if EvE side only. Making the piracy up above MH quite entertaining and dare I say scrubby. Or how about in the future (post port "hopefully") we open up all of New Eden and make two kinds of sovereignty, one is ground based and one is space based and you can only gain complete control of a system once those two are established. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:56:00 - [83] - Quote Asking too much IMO welcome to a 3 year beta. Now Arch I want REAL SOV. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 04:58:00 - [84] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Asking too much IMO welcome to a 3 year beta. Now Arch I want REAL SOV. I thought Arch was the community service guy. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 05:09:00 - [85] - Quote Arch actually posts on the forums. Edit: things I actually care about. Couple days ago he nutted up and actually posted on a touchy topic, when rat would of either defaulted to NDA or just trolled. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 05:14:00 - [86] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Arch actually posts on the forums. He most likely would not have the information required regarding your inquiry though. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 05:16:00 - [87] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Arch actually posts on the forums. He most likely would not have the information required regarding your inquiry though. Isn't that what tickets are for? ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 05:17:00 - [88] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Arch actually posts on the forums. He most likely would not have the information required regarding your inquiry though. Isn't that what tickets are for? I thought tickets were for concerts... Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 849	Posted - 2015.10.09 05:33:00 - [89] - Quote http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/616/546/ddb.png ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Dont-be-a-D1CK Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 253	Posted - 2015.10.09 10:41:00 - [90] - Quote Hump. OK, less of a back and forth chat you two ^^ There is some reasonable feedback amongst this, so I'll hope more gets added. Arirana's post on reducing lag, should be the first thing mercs do before starting PC . Keep the opinions relevant to our current Planetary Conquest set up. I'm hoping with Rattati throwing Zoolander gifs at people he may have took some notice of the topic here... Regarding PC activity, on weekends I will be active and can be found at "DeadMansGame" channel. I can give some input on PC and if I am free can help out with the battles themselves Well that was a surprise.



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