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Raven-747
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.07 07:36:00 -
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The reason why you get stomped all the time is probably because you suck. I have been in quite a few stomped matches where our team was done for but a few random blues and myself were wrecking the reds. This happens quite a lot. So instead of complaining go out there and work on your aim.
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Thor Odinson42
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.10.07 08:02:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Do you also want chat to be removed? because to coordinate you need communication. Seriously the only reason this game has been going this long is because of its social interactivity. If PC was more rewarding to low-mid tier players we would see less pub stomping. Just look at the DK market that thing is a joke. I don't think he even hinted that. Ever listen to team chat? It's usually some guys ranting or the screaming kids of possibly a parent trying to ignore them. DK market... Do you think top corps would ever use that garbage? They have billions of isk being generated weekly using anything below proto is most likely frowned upon... You might lower the Corp kd/wl ratio bringing shame Lol, we have meetings where we yell at people who were spotted using ADV. Those people don't get their alloted billions that week. We never ask where the ISK comes from, but we sometimes wonder, being that PC hasn't been an ISK faucet for close to a year. Lol it's still a faucet. A tiny Corp I played with was making a couple hundred million a week. I can only imagine what a.e. Has accumulated over the years.
How? Like give details.
Seriously, port it.
Hurry
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Trooper X
TROOPER Corp X
19
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Posted - 2015.10.07 08:37:00 -
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Brilliant...
OP makes valid points about the nature of the game, regarding new players... And someone comments, work on your 'aim'... #trollsrdicks
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I am one of the new players that Shinobi is talking about. I don't know anyone who play's the game and I downloaded it only because it was free. That's it...
There are no instructions when you start, there is nothing to say that being in a squad is important, or indeed needed... The game really isn't that difficult to understand however, it's a FPS, based on the capture the flag game mode...
So you start, straight into the deep end...
Starter Fit vs Frame's with Ghalag's RR -- Who goings to win the fight?...
Starter AV vs Madruga Gv.0 -- Who's going to win the fight?...
Basic Gal Assault vs Minmatar Assault mk.0 with Myo's & Freedom MD -- Who's going to win the fight?...
I could go on & on...
New players do not stand a chance. Fact.
New players, playing alone, do not stand a chance. Fact.
Would a new approach to the pub match system be welcomed, YES IT WOULD!...
Should new players be in the same pool as long time Vets? Not if you want them to stay & continue to play...
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Blueberries are the life blood of the game, you need us, more than we need you...
And why is that, i hear you ask?...
Because we do play solo, we can just leave, we can just derp about behind the redline, we don't give flying fig about your Corp or Reputation, Standings, K/D or any of that rubbish, we want a fight, but we're not going to, 'walk towards the guns slowly' just because you want us too. We press, leave battle, we press, quit game, we press, delete game from ps3. It's that easy...
Anyone who feels the system works just fine the way it is, is a fool...
TROOPER Corp X - Solo Merc - Blueberry Corp
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KGB Sleep
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:33:00 -
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Trooper X wrote:I'm adorable.
Maybe you shouldn't be fighting if you keep losing. Ever THINK of trying other strategies?
Ppl complain because they can't go toe to toe against someone with vastly more SP and better gear.
That doesn't mean you can't kill them, it just means you lose toe to toe and get wrecked if you get caught doing stupid ****. Look at your crosshairs report and it will tell you what you are aiming at. Knowing that...you can THINK ABOUT whether or not you can kill that person heads up. If you can't...and you WANT to try to kill people...
- Bait them to you and kill them with REs. (enemy scanning will make this hard to pull off though) - Heavy suit with primary weapon of choice to make up for HP differences at the cost of mobility. - Use a free vehicle from Salvage and tank their face or run them down in a LAV. - Forge Gun - Use installation turrets.
You can't earn WP other ways? You have to shoot people? Try supporting / farming your team.
- Plant uplinks behind the enemy and around the objective. - Drop nanohives on other players. - Hack things away from the main battle. - Rep tool @ everyone.
You don't get to wreck people right out of the gate here, you first practice avoidance. This is a thinking man's game not ******* Call of Duty. Everyone here managed to figure it out except for the pussies who can't see the beauty of playing in a sandbox filled with monsters. That's part of the appeal of this game...
This is Dark Souls FPS...it needs to stay evil.
It was difficult for everybody at first...and this version of DUST we are playing is much much friendlier than the old days where most of the player base was lost.
Final words of advice:
HTFU and PTFO
Because beer, that's why.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:49:00 -
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This entire thread
Closed beta vet.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
406
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:31:00 -
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We all say down with stomping but...
How to be exact? Do you have an idea?
Lol i just don't think it's fun if it's a stomp... I want to die, i want to feel like i need to swing a GG to the guy across the board.
Idk... In the end the only time i really feel like that is when it's ADS v ADS. I've dealt with a particle cann inky with an advanced build. I've dealt with incubi with a python (much harder w/ missiles against rail...)
And it will be impossible to get to that level of balance with suits. ADS v ADS is all in the pilot skill, and sometimes their fit. (Reptank can't stay to take abuse but a brick can... Except that rep is low so it can't stay long either.)
I've encountered some experienced pilots who hasn't taken me below 1500 eHP, I've met some inexperienced pilots who almost killed me, and would have if they weren't scared to take damage. And I'm not talking about tank pilots... I can barely drive the damned thing.
In suits it's nothing like that... The inexperienced just get cleaned up, the experienced clean. The low level fits have no chance against the high level fits.
To make suit v suit = ads v ads... That level of balance... It'll be rare to have if fits can determine so much.
The only way, is if the experienced go to low level fits or the inexperienced go to high level fits.
In the end... No experienced individual (few of them) will go to low level. And the inexperienced cannot go to high level yet.
Waiting is all i could say.... Until matchmaking gets better.
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Trooper X
TROOPER Corp X
19
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:50:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Trooper X wrote:I'm adorable. Maybe you shouldn't be fighting if you keep losing. Ever THINK of trying other strategies? Ppl complain because they can't go toe to toe against someone with vastly more SP and better gear. That doesn't mean you can't kill them, it just means you lose toe to toe and get wrecked if you get caught doing stupid ****. Look at your crosshairs report and it will tell you what you are aiming at. Knowing that...you can THINK ABOUT whether or not you can kill that person heads up. If you can't...and you WANT to try to kill people... - Bait them to you and kill them with REs. (enemy scanning will make this hard to pull off though) - Heavy suit with primary weapon of choice to make up for HP differences at the cost of mobility. - Use a free vehicle from Salvage and tank their face or run them down in a LAV. - Forge Gun - Use installation turrets. You can't earn WP other ways? You have to shoot people? Try supporting / farming your team. - Plant uplinks behind the enemy and around the objective. - Drop nanohives on other players. - Hack things away from the main battle. - Rep tool @ everyone. You don't get to wreck people right out of the gate here, you first practice avoidance. This is a thinking man's game not ******* Call of Duty. Everyone here managed to figure it out except for the pussies who can't see the beauty of playing in a sandbox filled with monsters. That's part of the appeal of this game... This is Dark Souls FPS...it needs to stay evil. It was difficult for everybody at first...and this version of DUST we are playing is much much friendlier than the old days where most of the player base was lost. Final words of advice: HTFU and PTFO
Why did you write that? And why to me?...
I do just fine thanks. I don't care if I get stomped, I play the game, I get my kills, my team wins, my team loses...
You want to think about your attitude, there's no need to be abusive...
TROOPER Corp X - Solo Merc - Blueberry Corp
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:06:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Simple. This happens with every game imbalance. Every time. Without fail. I wouldn't be surprised if the track the quitting and afking as an indication of OP performance. What you demand is action.
Ccp has responded with hotfix four.
Then they will check the results of that and respond again.
Back in the day they didnt tweak. They swung the nerfbat. Entire roles were destroyed overnight. Weapons were rendered unusable overnight.
Most of us prefer the 'wait and see' approach when compared to the horrors of the bat.
Its painful, No question, and we all feel it. This is not a "game imbalance". This is an outright one-sided disaster. Every day I go into pubs and at some point discover the stompers, so I quit that game, and go into FW where they hate noobs like me. But what choice do we have? We can't get any form of achievable game in pubs because of all the stompers who should be in FW and PC, but choose to bully the noobs in pubs. That's all they are, bullies, pure and simple. So I go inflict my noobishness on FW where they should be instead of me.
But it's not as if I can hold my own there either, I still get stomped, but at least the matches are more organised, usually. Where is the venue for noobs to learn the game or hone their skills? It should be pubs, but we can't do it there, because we barely get to turn around after a drop and some stomper bully shoots their lights out. It's a good way to learn how to die, not much good for anything else.
As for CCP's "response" in hotfix FoxFour, that's not a response that will address the real issues. It only tries to patch the problems. A proper response would be to acknowledge, here on this forum, that the problem is fundamental to the matchmaking process itself and that they intend to fix that, not just patch over it with another hotfix. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Not sure I care.
Squad > Individual Player
Squad Play > Individual Play
My Opinion > Individualist Players Opinion.
Result: I win. Yes, you do win. And that's the nature of the problem. It's the fact that the gangs win against the noobs in pubs that is the problem. You are part of the problem. You say this like it's a good thing but it's death of the game, because noobs won't keep playing against you. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:20:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:As a solo player most of the time I get where the OP is coming from. I see it all the time, squads of highly organised officer gear wearing scrubs who easily stomp noobs match after match. I guess I can't blame them, although I'm not sure how they call that fun, but the problem is essentially the way ccp has allowed matchmaking to continue. There should be a solo mode for sure, there should also be more time taken to fill proper matches. What do you expect a new player to think in the current state of the game? No game modes work except domination, and once you land one you get stomped to oblivion or wander around and do nothing while vets on your side stomp the enemy. It's stupid.
Very poor matchmaking has made for unfilled, lopsided, painfully boring matches of late. I do disagree with the OP on the hot fix topic. I am excited for FoxFour and overall have faith in rattatis ability to balance the game. However balance is just one facet of dusts problems and overall something that is missed by new players. New players want exciting close matches where they feel they can contribute. If you want to retain these players you need to find a way of achieving that. I agree with everything said here except for the hotfix. I can't see how it can fix the problem without addressing the basic issue. Otherwise it's just a patch, not a real solution. |
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:24:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad. The problem isn't the FOUR, it's the fact they're in PUBS. Get it? |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:30:00 -
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Worthless Target wrote:So here's the thing about DUST 514.
If you're looking for a fun and fair match, you've come to the wrong game. When an individual says they want a balanced match, their only lying to sound less like total tool bag. No one plays Dust for a fair game, they come here to pad stats that mean nothing so they can wave their E-peens every which way declaring "Hay look at me, my KDr is so good because I got skills!" By skill, I mean skill points, and gear that is much better then yours.
You know how some free games are pay to win? Well this game is wait to win. Once you have the right amount of skill POINTS, you're good to go, no one can stop you, except for maybe the other guys who waited just as long as you. Well, that's what the leave button is for. Besides, this game isn't built for balanced matches, it's been hand crafted just for the vet players to pad their stats all the way to their heart's content. After all, why ells would it stack the proto squads on one team and leave all the low levels on the other? Why ells would this problem persist since the start with no end, because it's not a problem, everything is working as intended.
In this game, you have two choices. You could wait to get proto, and get nothing but victories devoid of all value. Or most likely you will be the cannon fodder, nothing more then sacks of meat to feed the vets as they gorge their DKrs. All you can do is accept that you are only padding for that one stat. Since they take so much pride in their slaughters, take pride in your deaths. Is winning a match any different from losing one? So far I've never seen the difference in either outcome, you define what wining is to you. So just sit down already, and play the game how it was designed to be played; Stomp or be stomped.
welcome to New Eden. You're missing a very crucial point. Even EvE has ample catering for noobs, because when EvE was first created they knew that noobs are the regeneration of the game. And this is EvE we're talking about, the game that supposedly is the hardest game in the world to learn with a learning curve that itself supposedly kills noobs. But even EvE can cater for noobs, why can't Dust?
Perhaps Dust never has. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't still. Not allowing noobs to learn the game is the death of the game. Noone stays in the same place forever. Noobs need to be able to learn enough of the game to progress or they leave. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:36:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad.
Really ?? I can't say if this post is ignorant or just plain stupid.
Playing it as intended.. LOL the PC players/ex-farmers might as well have Master BPO's as they have the wealth to dispose of proto and not feel the change to their wallets .. was that intended ??? Or are you so naive as to claim "skill" in that situation?
He is talking about a Public Lobby.. go justify being a tryhard somewhere else. Thor I have enjoyed reading some of your posts in my time as a creepy forum stalker, but since you went chasing the bandwagon your posts are just blind ignorant.
Killing in an FPS = Good Having a constant advantage in casual gamemodes = Bad
SOONtm
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:39:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:The reason why you get stomped all the time is probably because you suck. I have been in quite a few stomped matches where our team was done for but a few random blues and myself were wrecking the reds. This happens quite a lot. So instead of complaining go out there and work on your aim. Yes, of course he sucks. So do I. We're NOOBS. Noobs are supposed to suck. But they're supposed to also have enough encouragement to keep playing until they don't or they leave. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad. I have played in matches where two squads was the opposing team and my team was total random players . Others have brought this up only to get crapped on by the community that doesn't want this system to change .
They asked , how did that happen .?. well if I had a capture card then you would have seen it but the next time this happens , I will take a pic on my phone and link it for all of you to see because it does happen where you get squads , not a squad to que on one team .
I guess if you people could see that then you might change your tune or maybe not .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
31
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:49:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad. I have played in matches where two squads was the opposing team and my team was total random players . Others have brought this up only to get crapped on by the community that doesn't want this system to change . They asked , how did that happen .?. well if I had a capture card then you would have seen it but the next time this happens , I will take a pic on my phone and link it for all of you to see because it does happen where you get squads , not a squad to que on one team . I guess if you people could see that then you might change your tune or maybe not . The way the game currently works, they will never see it for themselves. To do so, they need to be on the receiving end of the "imbalance" but since they are the cause of the "imbalance" in the first place this will never happen. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:54:00 -
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Worthless Target wrote:So here's the thing about DUST 514.
If you're looking for a fun and fair match, you've come to the wrong game. When an individual says they want a balanced match, their only lying to sound less like total tool bag. No one plays Dust for a fair game, they come here to pad stats that mean nothing so they can wave their E-peens every which way declaring "Hay look at me, my KDr is so good because I got skills!" By skill, I mean skill points, and gear that is much better then yours.
You know how some free games are pay to win? Well this game is wait to win. Once you have the right amount of skill POINTS, you're good to go, no one can stop you, except for maybe the other guys who waited just as long as you. Well, that's what the leave button is for. Besides, this game isn't built for balanced matches, it's been hand crafted just for the vet players to pad their stats all the way to their heart's content. After all, why ells would it stack the proto squads on one team and leave all the low levels on the other? Why ells would this problem persist since the start with no end, because it's not a problem, everything is working as intended.
In this game, you have two choices. You could wait to get proto, and get nothing but victories devoid of all value. Or most likely you will be the cannon fodder, nothing more then sacks of meat to feed the vets as they gorge their DKrs. All you can do is accept that you are only padding for that one stat. Since they take so much pride in their slaughters, take pride in your deaths. Is winning a match any different from losing one? So far I've never seen the difference in either outcome, you define what wining is to you. So just sit down already, and play the game how it was designed to be played; Stomp or be stomped.
welcome to New Eden. So how's that doing / done for the growth and benefit of the game ?
People were complaining to Bungie about this same thing in Destiny and THEY changed it because they listen to what their community says and not just a selected few .
Other devs do the same things when such is brought up , it's like the modded controller issue ... they just don't do anything about anything besides tell you that there's nothing that they can do about it or just keep silent while other games and devs simply don't have the same problem because once they recognize it , they actually do something about it .
This game hasn't grown because of that same complacency .
I get on CCP about performance issues but I jump to their defense about other problems , all the while thinking that they will do better , well you know what .?. it's time for them to do better on this subject .
I always say that if this project did fail it was because of CCP and their complacency and that also goes with listening to a selected few and not reviewing most suggestions in this scenario , only a few select get a blue or red tag , only a selected few who don't even play the game but play the forum game , have their ideals entertained .
It's that small click that's part of the problem but they always seem to make it to acquire positions in the CPM , the same rotation and it's not even hidden .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Not sure I care.
Squad > Individual Player
Squad Play > Individual Play
My Opinion > Individualist Players Opinion.
Result: I win. THANK YOU!
Can everyone get it through their heads that deploying into Pubs with a group of friends isn't somehow evil just because you don't do the same thing?
I virtually NEVER play this game without a full squad. I want people to talk to and coordinate with when I play.
Are you trying to say we're all bad people unless we only queue solo?
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:26:00 -
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Most of those stompers have paid their dues. Not time in match but real cash. If youve been here for years like alot of us youve spent some cash. Why would CCP snub already paying customers to net a few potential ones. This game is set up to be a vet. Put your time in and quit crying. Weve all been there.
Crush them
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:30:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Most of those stompers have paid their dues. Not time in match but real cash. If youve been here for years like alot of us youve spent some cash. Why would CCP snub already paying customers to net a few potential ones. This game is set up to be a vet. Put your time in and quit crying. Weve all been there. i have paid zero $ on dust tbh fam
Closed beta vet.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:36:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Most of those stompers have paid their dues. Not time in match but real cash. If youve been here for years like alot of us youve spent some cash. Why would CCP snub already paying customers to net a few potential ones. This game is set up to be a vet. Put your time in and quit crying. Weve all been there. Again , how is that / has that worked for the growth of the game ?
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:44:00 -
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I have to agree with you OP. What CCP does to their newest players is needless, senseless, foolish and self-destructive. We can have a hardcore game and a decent NPE, the two are not mutually exclusive. If we could do a word search on these forums i wonder how many hits we'd get for 'NPE'.
This is why the hardware/platform argument is almost pointless - if the developer is unwilling to fix the codebase, gameplay or NPE what's the point? New Platform will change none of that and sadly will not materially alter the gameplay experience of new players.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:48:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: THANK YOU!
Can everyone get it through their heads that deploying into Pubs with a group of friends isn't somehow evil just because you don't do the same thing?
I virtually NEVER play this game without a full squad. I want people to talk to and coordinate with when I play.
Are you trying to say we're all bad people unless we only queue solo?
I said you have FW and PC's to conduct that action in but it seems like your backing that fact that this behavior is driving away potential consumers with treating pub matches like PC matches .
How do you people condone this and act like you speak for the benefit of the game ???
This is driving away growth that this game so desperately needs .
You don't see the flaws in these actions ???
Create a system of random players with the warbarge as the drop for creating squads out of the existing player pool for that particular game , you will still have squads and coms and such but just not with the people that your use to playing with .
You might help others understand the game better , you might help retain players , players might enjoy the game more , they just might understand the inner working of the game better and join corporations instead of playing in the starter corp that's assigned , it might just help this game seem like less of a grind because they will feel more interactive and want to participate more because the matches would become more balanced so they might just be willing to invest the time and effort to back what CCP is trying to accomplish .
Getting stomped match after match is not inspiring and drives away potential consumers .
People complain about NPE , well this is that NPE that this game so desperately needs , it will help newer and lesser players feel like their more apart of what's happening so you just might see players AFKing and leaving matches less .
I guess to those who are defending the system at hand , that's just too much to ask for or desire .
You know , relevance and production from growth .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:50:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I have to agree with you OP. What CCP does to their newest players is needless, senseless, foolish and self-destructive. We can have a hardcore game and a decent NPE, the two are not mutually exclusive. If we could do a word search on these forums i wonder how many hits we'd get for 'NPE'.
This is why the hardware/platform argument is almost pointless - if the developer is unwilling to fix the codebase, gameplay or NPE what's the point? New Platform will change none of that and sadly will not materially alter the gameplay experience of new players. You should have been CPM .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC
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Darken-Sol wrote:Most of those stompers have paid their dues. Not time in match but real cash. If youve been here for years like alot of us youve spent some cash. Why would CCP snub already paying customers to net a few potential ones. This game is set up to be a vet. Put your time in and quit crying. Weve all been there.
You can't honestly sit there and say that the game is the same. Sure I put in my time, but at least back then matches were engaging and people actually tried to win. Now competition is pathetic. The only competition I see in pubs is people in the same squad trying to out do each other because winning is an obvious result 90% of the time. This isn't about crying, this is about people being seriously concerned with matchmaking and NPE, and trying to call CCP to action. It's good you're happy with the current state of Dust but don't be ignorant, if this continues Dust will die. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 17:44:00 -
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Please because it's obvious that some just don't get it .
Thank you for being observant .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.07 17:52:00 -
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What was welcomed and praised is now the proposed bane of a digital experience. There are so many variables to the conundrum that if one listed them, he would be branded a fool.
Welcome to the Dust apocalypse.
Saying what's on people's minds
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.10.07 18:26:00 -
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Want to see the power of an organized squad in a pub watch sax's video "one squad 140 kills" 4 people running complementary fits not even going for the objective because the win is garenteed just by the organization. |
Thor Odinson42
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:35:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad. The problem isn't the FOUR, it's the fact they're in PUBS. Get it?
It worked in beta and it worked with 6 man squads for a long time.
The biggest difference then was more squad play overall. People saw a good squad and ran proto because it was going to be a fight. As the rewards stayed poor for years, people slowly started playing more passive. Then we had a big scout buff, lone wolves were powerful. That was really when squad play started to disappear.
The thing that sets Dust apart is the team play. CCP made a poor decision a long time ago to not incentivize squad play. Lack of coordination prevents you from getting a hack in, dealing with vehicles, clearing high ground, etc. When individuals get camped, they just quit. Is one dude supposed to take a dropship and kill 5 campers plus kill equipment? If the one dude is able to do that, does he then jump down and hack solo?
Again, it's not the squad players, it's the randomness of the other 28 in the match that leads to so many poor matches. I played for several hours last night in a great squad and we lost at least 6 matches in a row. We got nothing from the other 12 on our team. There's just a sentiment on the forums that doesn't represent reality in game.
Seriously, port it.
Hurry
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:52:00 -
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Squad play really is the key to DUST. The game is based on playing as a squad. We have infrastructure built around huge numbers which we just dont have. The new character screen should really have a tooltip which warns against solo deploying and the NPC corps should all be abolished and reduced to one. The idea of a one merc army just doesnt hold out against a squad which is set against you. The days which Thor alluded to (the frakking scout buff) set a tone which was unsustainable. The attitude that one merc can and should do it all, remains.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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