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Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 00:16:00 - [1] - Quote Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 00:49:00 - [2] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! This is what I would like but I would make an exception for APEX Suits; they are listed as Proto but really fall somewhere in between Standard and Advanced Suits.
maybe deadcatz TRUE TEA BAGGERS Smart Deploy 961	Posted - 2015.10.05 00:58:00 - [3] - Quote Nah. I need my complex kincatz. And cal suits need their complex should regularters. Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:04:00 - [4] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Nah. I need my complex kincatz. And cal suits need their complex should regularters. You can take that bourgeois gear to Factional and PC.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:24:00 - [5] - Quote What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
DozersMouse XIII Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:30:00 - [6] - Quote I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:51:00 - [7] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! If they do this you would have to include complex mod's, equipment and vehicals ( along with their mod's ) If you are running mostly milita you are making most of your own problems. Ex. Single hives, single grenade, slower reload, less ammo. Once you have access to basic gear it's just dumb to not use it.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:58:00 - [8] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You forgot scan precision Profile And don't forget even milita tanks with no skills vs max skill pilots in milita. Its amazing the first time you run a maxed out tank and destroy an installation before it gets a shot off.
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.05 01:59:00 - [9] - Quote You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:00:00 - [10] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches preach....these guys think 200K ISK is a lot of ISK. Without the proto gear in these matches, the payouts are ****. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here

Summa Militum Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:30:00 - [11] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You're being ridiculous. Removing Prototype Gear from Public Contracts will help newbies in their overall experience in this game which might just help them stay committed to this game long enough to skill up their Core Skills. Removing Prototype gear from Public Contracts will also help some of the veterans who, usually due to no lack of effort on their own part, get their ass whipped constantly.
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 104	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:32:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches preach....these guys think 200K ISK is a lot of ISK. Without the proto gear in these matches, the payouts are ****. Fun balanced Matches AND 200k Isk? Awesome I'm OK with that that. Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:38:00 - [13] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You're being ridiculous. Removing Prototype Gear from Public Contracts will help newbies in their overall experience in this game which might just help them stay committed to this game long enough to skill up their Core Skills. Removing Prototype gear from Public Contracts will also help some of the veterans who, usually due to no lack of effort on their own part, get their ass whipped constantly. We don't have enough fitting slots for 10+ suits with STD through PRO variants. I literally don't have a fitting that isn't at least proto. You've got so many situational fits. But I also find myself on pathetic teams a lot and I feel zero shame in running proto. Seriously, port it. Hurry
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:40:00 - [14] - Quote I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. At the very least, officer should be prohibited in pubs; the amount I've seen is just fcking ridiculous. Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches preach....these guys think 200K ISK is a lot of ISK. Without the proto gear in these matches, the payouts are ****. Simple solution, up the payout. Edit: Payouts are pretty sh!t now as it is. Not like these proto/officer stompers die much anyways except when they have the balls to stay in a match against other proto/officer stompers. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 02:49:00 - [15] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Summa Militum wrote: deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You're being ridiculous. Removing Prototype Gear from Public Contracts will help newbies in their overall experience in this game which might just help them stay committed to this game long enough to skill up their Core Skills. Removing Prototype gear from Public Contracts will also help some of the veterans who, usually due to no lack of effort on their own part, get their ass whipped constantly. We don't have enough fitting slots for 10+ suits with STD through PRO variants. I literally don't have a fitting that isn't at least proto. You've got so many situational fits. But I also find myself on pathetic teams a lot and I feel zero shame in running proto. You are correct about the fitting slots. We will definitely need more fitting slots; hell, even now I feel we need more fitting slots.
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:05:00 - [16] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. At the very least, officer should be prohibited in pubs; the amount I've seen is just fcking ridiculous. Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches preach....these guys think 200K ISK is a lot of ISK. Without the proto gear in these matches, the payouts are ***. Simple solution, up the payout. Edit: Payouts are pretty sh!t now as it is. Not like these proto/officer stompers die much anyways except when they have the balls to stay in a match against other proto/officer stompers. I would definitely agree to increasing the payout. It is just up to CCP for what they are going to do about it. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child*
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:08:00 - [17] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Summa Militum wrote: deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You're being ridiculous. Removing Prototype Gear from Public Contracts will help newbies in their overall experience in this game which might just help them stay committed to this game long enough to skill up their Core Skills. Removing Prototype gear from Public Contracts will also help some of the veterans who, usually due to no lack of effort on their own part, get their ass whipped constantly. We don't have enough fitting slots for 10+ suits with STD through PRO variants. I literally don't have a fitting that isn't at least proto. You've got so many situational fits. But I also find myself on pathetic teams a lot and I feel zero shame in running proto. It would become very few times you were on a pathetic team if they did this. Most of the time, blueberries die fast because they don't know what they're up against. They'd bring their standard stuff and try to put up against a proto suit, which we all know how it ends. It is just that they don't have enough time (they get killed too fast to react) to put up any damage that would actually help others go in for the kill. If they restrict proto and you still have a bad team, I guess it's just new players experiencing New Eden. Gotta at least give them a chance. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:12:00 - [18] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. Been saying this forever
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:13:00 - [19] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: deezy dabest wrote: What good does that do? My advanced fit dumps on most newbies full proto fits because I have every single attribute maxed out. At least now they can pull out proto in an attempt to counter me if you wish. You can restrict it to militia suits in pubs and newbies still going to get stomped by coordination and higher skill bonuses. More armor More shields More module efficacy More fitting space More damage ... That is before you count the fact that most of us have several suits and weapons maxed out for full versatility while newbs do not even have one suit properly maxed out. You're being ridiculous. Removing Prototype Gear from Public Contracts will help newbies in their overall experience in this game which might just help them stay committed to this game long enough to skill up their Core Skills. Removing Prototype gear from Public Contracts will also help some of the veterans who, usually due to no lack of effort on their own part, get their ass whipped constantly. I understand what you're telling me. The reason why I don't agree to this is because I know it is better to have a fun, competitive game rather than having your team face a proto group that just makes everybody on your side leave. We don't want that. A game where clutches involving the whole team could actually happen, instead of just one smart person playing the right suit to try to reduce the enemy's force count. And yeah, veterans who run proto everything all day and use unfair suits like Jumpy MD fits in pubs need to be given the experience of death. I don't like it when I have those kinds of people on my team, but I just sit there and wait for my payout. This could be easily fixed by this, just saying... "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 23	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:13:00 - [20] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant.

Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:14:00 - [21] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:17:00 - [22] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant. Hey, those seconds in battle actually do matter. It's not about the rounds you have to land on the enemy, it's about the time you have to do it. With the differences shown in your link and the time difference it would take to eliminate the enemy, is actually a significant difference. You've got the enemy shooting at you with their rounds, so if you don't play your movements right, you could probably not get any shots in the enemy. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:22:00 - [23] - Quote Until the Dust Team can give me a solid reason for why this isn't a good idea, I'm still gonna stick with this. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros 110	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:28:00 - [24] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: And cal suits need their complex should regularters. I will have to respectfully disagree with this. I run 2 adv shield regs and I do just fine. My last match was 32/10. I use the State 'Kampo' Logistics. I run it as is mostly. I add an adv armor plates. I trade the energizer for a complex shield extender. My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State "Kampo" Logistics Born - April 1, 2013
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:35:00 - [25] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Did you forget about fw/PC?
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 03:57:00 - [26] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Did you forget about fw/PC? FW & PCs are basically meant for that high pressure of losing valuable suits. And using them too gives you that sense of power, and this game would technically be useless if proto was completely out of the game. Keep proto in the game, just don't spam it so hard. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 04:14:00 - [27] - Quote Ateroith wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Did you forget about fw/PC? FW & PCs are basically meant for that high pressure of losing valuable suits. And using them too gives you that sense of power, and this game would technically be useless if proto was completely out of the game. Keep proto in the game, just don't spam it so hard. A gentleman's rule to never use proto right? Yeah that'll happen. Not having knowledge that you're squad is running pro/officer gear ( because your in a squad ) is a better deterrent to stomps than meta lock or pro lockout. When in a squad of high sp, high skill players I average 9/10 wins, when solo it's more like 1/3 wins. Organization and shared passive's plus significant wp bonus and orbital strikes = wins. Not gear, it helps but it's not a win button.
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 04:18:00 - [28] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Ateroith wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Did you forget about fw/PC? FW & PCs are basically meant for that high pressure of losing valuable suits. And using them too gives you that sense of power, and this game would technically be useless if proto was completely out of the game. Keep proto in the game, just don't spam it so hard. A gentleman's rule to never use proto right? Yeah that'll happen. Not having knowledge that you're squad is running pro/officer gear ( because your in a squad ) is a better deterrent to stomps than meta lock or pro lockout. When in a squad of high sp, high skill players I average 9/10 wins, when solo it's more like 1/3 wins. Organization and shared passive's plus significant wp bonus and orbital strikes = wins. Not gear, it helps but it's not a win button. That is true. But overall teamwork and great competitive games is what I look forward to, not just winning. Of course, losing is not an option, but losing when you fight hard with a chance for redemption does kind of count. I guess? "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Ydubbs81 RND Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2015.10.05 04:35:00 - [29] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Proto gear is not the problem.....we've been saying this for the longest time. Why can't you guys see this? Sure...proto vs mlt gear, you might get smoked. But the weapons from different tiers are so close to each other, it really doesn't give you that much of an edge. Running squads is the problem. When one squad is in the game vs randoms, that squad has a big impact. Especially when that squad is filled with great players. Even if there is one squad on each side but one squad is significantly better than the other squad. That weaker squad and team will get floored causing their blues to stop playing or quit. But if you eliminate squads and everyone solo queues....than there is no squad coordination (giving one side an advantage) and you have a better chance (I'm guessing) of getting good players on both sides. About your friends comment....one of the things that I loved about Dust back when I first started was the fact that you can talk to anyone whether you guys are in the same game or not. Now, I hate playing games where the squad max is 4 and you have 12 people on because you can't talk to them. We used to be in a chat channel with 20 guys in it all commed up. Although I wasn't in the same squads as them, those were good times because we could still bug out and make jokes. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 04:42:00 - [30] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Proto gear is not the problem.....we've been saying this for the longest time. Why can't you guys see this? Sure...proto vs mlt gear, you might get smoked. But the weapons from different tiers are so close to each other, it really doesn't give you that much of an edge. Running squads is the problem. When one squad is in the game vs randoms, that squad has a big impact. Especially when that squad is filled with great players. Even if there is one squad on each side but one squad is significantly better than the other squad. That weaker squad and team will get floored causing their blues to stop playing or quit. But if you eliminate squads and everyone solo queues....than there is no squad coordination (giving one side an advantage) and you have a better chance (I'm guessing) of getting good players on both sides. About your friends comment....one of the things that I loved about Dust back when I first started was the fact that you can talk to anyone whether you guys are in the same game or not. Now, I hate playing games where the squad max is 4 and you have 12 people on because you can't talk to them. We used to be in a chat channel with 20 guys in it all commed up. Although I wasn't in the same squads as them, those were good times because we could still bug out and make jokes. Squads relate to skill, & teamwork. Essential parts of the game that give you the REAL edge. Proto gear makes it unfair even if you aren't in a squad. But that's not the point Dust is huge because of its interplanetary control. Corporations are climbing the ranks, becoming recognized. It is the player's fault for not finding a corp, and becoming better at a game. Take another game into consideration. Battlefield is a great game. There are still noobs out there, but that game is not as complex as this one. Teamwork is a huge display in Battlefield, and if you don't have that, you are guaranteed to keep dying, whereas when pointing out enemies rushing objectives could save someone's life. It's not the fact that squads are ruining games. That's just my opinion, these are debate-worthy topics. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 05:12:00 - [31] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Proto gear is not the problem.....we've been saying this for the longest time. Why can't you guys see this? Sure...proto vs mlt gear, you might get smoked. But the weapons from different tiers are so close to each other, it really doesn't give you that much of an edge. Running squads is the problem. When one squad is in the game vs randoms, that squad has a big impact. Especially when that squad is filled with great players. Even if there is one squad on each side but one squad is significantly better than the other squad. That weaker squad and team will get floored causing their blues to stop playing or quit. But if you eliminate squads and everyone solo queues....than there is no squad coordination (giving one side an advantage) and you have a better chance (I'm guessing) of getting good players on both sides. About your friends comment....one of the things that I loved about Dust back when I first started was the fact that you can talk to anyone whether you guys are in the same game or not. Now, I hate playing games where the squad max is 4 and you have 12 people on because you can't talk to them. We used to be in a chat channel with 20 guys in it all commed up. Although I wasn't in the same squads as them, those were good times because we could still bug out and make jokes. Even if it's not a garentee that everyone on each team is going to fight hard, nobody has a large advantage just because of squad perks. Squads in pubs is why NPE is so bad ( since most are solo and know nothing about joining corps ). People that want to be a part of the social side of the game and the most competitive mode's FW/PC should be able to but those teams vs mostly random casual players do not need squad perks. I also think that the huge amount of isk made in PC for Corp funds has fueled proto stomping for to long. Some large corps make billions every week, making some players uber rich and allowed them to run only the best and buy up every piece of officer gear available. I have not been sucking the Corp tweet and I have over a billion isk... And I'm considered poor.
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 182	Posted - 2015.10.05 05:29:00 - [32] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ateroith wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. It's not fun if you can't play with your friends and have a good time. I think a 4 man squad is just right. It doesn't help to even things up because they can still choose what suits they want. If the Dust Team restricted proto gear, then any squad won't be a problem. Proto gear is not the problem.....we've been saying this for the longest time. Why can't you guys see this? Sure...proto vs mlt gear, you might get smoked. But the weapons from different tiers are so close to each other, it really doesn't give you that much of an edge. Running squads is the problem. When one squad is in the game vs randoms, that squad has a big impact. Especially when that squad is filled with great players. Even if there is one squad on each side but one squad is significantly better than the other squad. That weaker squad and team will get floored causing their blues to stop playing or quit. But if you eliminate squads and everyone solo queues....than there is no squad coordination (giving one side an advantage) and you have a better chance (I'm guessing) of getting good players on both sides. About your friends comment....one of the things that I loved about Dust back when I first started was the fact that you can talk to anyone whether you guys are in the same game or not. Now, I hate playing games where the squad max is 4 and you have 12 people on because you can't talk to them. We used to be in a chat channel with 20 guys in it all commed up. Although I wasn't in the same squads as them, those were good times because we could still bug out and make jokes. Even if it's not a garentee that everyone on each team is going to fight hard, nobody has a large advantage just because of squad perks. Squads in pubs is why NPE is so bad ( since most are solo and know nothing about joining corps ). People that want to be a part of the social side of the game and the most competitive mode's FW/PC should be able to but those teams vs mostly random casual players do not need squad perks. I also think that the huge amount of isk made in PC for Corp funds has fueled proto stomping for to long. Some large corps make billions every week, making some players uber rich and allowed them to run only the best and buy up every piece of officer gear available. I have not been sucking the Corp tweet and I have over a billion isk... And I'm considered poor. Ok ok. You guys have convinced me about squads in pubs. I'm still going to keep with no proto in pubs too though. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
xavier zor XxAMBUSH FTWxX 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 05:48:00 - [33] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches Good point People cry about getting stomped in proto but these players could stomp you in standard gear. If you are having a hard time vs them, either A. Pull out proto B. Counter the guy giving you a hard time. C. Git bud ~~D. Leave battle~~ sLaYeR I'm a knifing pussy ^-^/
five times Liverpool F.C. 206	Posted - 2015.10.05 05:49:00 - [34] - Quote I'm a solo player 95% of the time. The best solution is non sharing of scans, only the operator of the scanner sees on his tacnet. keep your proto squads and social aspect, and use your communication to get enemy position from your gal logi.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:09:00 - [35] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant. I fail to see how less of an advantage is the same as insignificant (I've personally been one to state how most people underestimate the impact skills have). Anyways, here's a simple solution to the lvl 5 problem, make only up to lvl 3 of a skill apply. Of course there's still the advantage, like how I've got prof in some weapons and others don't but then that's part of the point of the game. It's not nearly as bad as a full blown vet going balls to the walls in proto/officer with lvl 5 everything while still maintaining the progression aspect of the game. Otherwise we might as well just make pubs automatically apply lvl5 for everything to everyone; honestly I wouldn't be apposed to that and even as far as having pubs not use up fits. A little care bearish but fck, if that's what it takes for the game to grow then I'm all for it. Hell, now that I think about it, that's kind of what we fcking need, a goddamn high sec, sh!t EVE"s got it and it's a relativity safe area, why the fck doesn't Dust? make pubs high sec and leave FW & PC as null for the HTFU crowd. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:14:00 - [36] - Quote xavier zor wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches Good point People cry about getting stomped in proto but these players could stomp you in standard gear. If you are having a hard time vs them, either A. Pull out proto B. Counter the guy giving you a hard time. C. Git bud ~~D. Leave battle~~ I hear that a lot but never see it. Which is why I think CCP should have a militia event similar to the templar event. New character that can't gain or spend SP, so all these "I'll stomp you in lesser gear" bitches can put up or shut up. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:16:00 - [37] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches Yet another good point basic gear limitations on rounds should also limit payouts or it will just be farm isk mode. A proto suit cost 19.23 times more than basic the payout should reflect that so a normal payout of 250k would be reduced to about 13k. Example I run advanced suits all round averaged 50k in cost, lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 250k break even. I run milita gear/starter/basic average cost of 2500 isk lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 13k I profit. Fair right? Also apex suits would have to be blocked due to the extra cpu/pg and bandwidth.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:18:00 - [38] - Quote five times wrote: I'm a solo player 95% of the time. The best solution is non sharing of scans, only the operator of the scanner sees on his tacnet. keep your proto squads and social aspect, and use your communication to get enemy position from your gal logi. That only hurts solo players and noobs that don't know what the barrels, table top, anvils, hangers, mushrooms, etc... are. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 23	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:29:00 - [39] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant. I fail to see how less of an advantage is the same as insignificant (I've personally been one to state how most people underestimate the impact skills have). Anyways, here's a simple solution to the lvl 5 problem, make only up to lvl 3 of a skill apply. Of course there's still the advantage, like how I've got prof in some weapons and others don't but then that's part of the point of the game. It's not nearly as bad as a full blown vet going balls to the walls in proto/officer with lvl 5 everything while still maintaining the progression aspect of the game. Otherwise we might as well just make pubs automatically apply lvl5 for everything to everyone; honestly I wouldn't be apposed to that and even as far as having pubs not use up fits. A little care bearish but fck, if that's what it takes for the game to grow then I'm all for it. Hell, now that I think about it, that's kind of what we fcking need, a goddamn high sec, sh!t EVE"s got it and it's a relativity safe area, why the fck doesn't Dust? make pubs high sec and leave FW & PC as null for the HTFU crowd. Sorry I did kinda put words in your mouth there. It's been an emotional day for me. Whether it's lvl 0 or lvl 5, I'm very much for some sort of skill (SP) equalization in pubs. Add to that a limit to the tier of your gear or stat equalization on gear, and Dust might have a chance at hanging on to a lot more new players than it currently does. BTW, I did some numbers regarding the difference that tiers have. EDIT: TLDR on the numbers is Skills alone = 30%, ADV gear = 55%, PRO = 93%. Comparing the difference from skills alone to ADV (25%) , and skills alone to PRO (63%), my guess is that CCP never intended PRO to be used in pubs at all.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:52:00 - [40] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Sorry I did kinda put words in your mouth there.[....], my guess is that CCP never intended PRO to be used in pubs at all. Well to be fair, I'm glad you put words in my mouth, otherwise I wouldn't have thought to further clarify my position. Whether or not CCP intended for proto to be used in pubs they did originally intend for it to be rarely used. I'm sure they knew that some players would be able to afford to use it in pubs but it certainly wasn't meant to be spammed as if it were basic and officer was meant to only be used in battles that actually mattered like PC's instead of being thrown around like candy. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.

Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 23	Posted - 2015.10.05 07:14:00 - [41] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Well to be fair, I'm glad you put words in my mouth, otherwise I wouldn't have thought to further clarify my position. Whether or not CCP intended for proto to be used in pubs they did originally intend for it to be rarely used. I'm sure they knew that some players would be able to afford to use it in pubs but it certainly wasn't meant to be spammed as if it were basic and officer was meant to only be used in battles that actually mattered like PC's instead of being thrown around like candy. So I'm guessing you've been around a fair bit longer than me, what do you think are the chances that the stat equalization idea could get any traction with the CPM?
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 07:29:00 - [42] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Well to be fair, I'm glad you put words in my mouth, otherwise I wouldn't have thought to further clarify my position. Whether or not CCP intended for proto to be used in pubs they did originally intend for it to be rarely used. I'm sure they knew that some players would be able to afford to use it in pubs but it certainly wasn't meant to be spammed as if it were basic and officer was meant to only be used in battles that actually mattered like PC's instead of being thrown around like candy. So I'm guessing you've been around a fair bit longer than me, what do you think are the chances that the stat equalization idea could get any traction with the CPM? I've been around since open beta but I don't really know the members of CPM all that well. Most of them I wouldn't willingly associate with based on the corps they've been in or are in. Some are content with the stompus quo, Darth for example, I've seen him and his ilk stomp the ever living sh!t out of teams that couldn't make it out of the redline several times and then blame CCP for it when I confronted him about it instead of accepting the fact they chose to do it. With CPM, I'll be generous enough to say your guess is as good as mine. However with CCP, if they want this game to grow, stat equalization should gain some traction. Then again that's barring them being concerned with getting more money than more players as the current state of the game encourages buying AUR more than stat equalization would. Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 104	Posted - 2015.10.05 16:39:00 - [43] - Quote xavier zor wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I bet the isk payouts will be awesome in these welfare matches Good point People cry about getting stomped in proto but these players could stomp you in standard gear. If you are having a hard time vs them, either A. Pull out proto B. Counter the guy giving you a hard time. C. Git bud ~~D. Leave battle~~ Not sure about that Proto gives a HUGE advantage,I'll be in STD suits and many times I'll beat entire squads back then ADV squads then Proto Squads come in and I can't keep up with the speed, DPS, and EHP. Squads help a lot but Proto I can manage one (if Idiots) but a 2 or more? I also need Proto with a squad. Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.05 18:16:00 - [44] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. I actually think this is a legit and viable idea to be honest. Proto is not a problem. Neither is officer gear to be frank. The problem is imbalance and totally skewed teams. This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.05 18:20:00 - [45] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You know what......remove squads from pub matches. That would help even things up. I actually think this is a legit and viable idea to be honest. Proto is not a problem. Neither is officer gear to be frank. The problem is imbalance and totally skewed teams. I am all for removing squads in pubs but skirmish would need to be removed from pubs as well. All other game modes are very viable with no squads. We might just be on to something here. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 459	Posted - 2015.10.05 18:51:00 - [46] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! I suggested in a posting earlier that sonething like this be done. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=217876 My thought was make a mode with everything basic or militia grade. If any suit, module, or weapon is above that for the match the fitting is invalid and cannot deploy.
2Berries NORTH K0REA 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 19:08:00 - [47] - Quote I'm against any limitations on gear in any game mode, my reason is easily to understand. CCP's answer to complaints about protostomping was to introduce officer gear. Evening Boys, Hows the water?
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 13	Posted - 2015.10.05 19:57:00 - [48] - Quote Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! Lets be real here. You're not complaining about Proto Suits. You're complaining about the people in them. Nobody has ever whined or complained about that horrible dude in proto who goes 0-11. You want skill based matchmaking, which will never happen in Dust due to our HORRIFICALLY LOW PLAYERBASE. If you meta lock tiers, you will still get the ever loving bejesus stomped out of you by Advanced suits. Lowering the bar isn't the answer. If anything, they just need to nerf the cost of proto suits or increase payouts. Let everyone run the blingy toys. Proto suits are hella fun with their versatility and fitting power. I would love to see more matches of full proto. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 616	Posted - 2015.10.05 20:08:00 - [49] - Quote "Rattati" wrote: Metalock -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 459	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:24:00 - [50] - Quote 2Berries wrote: I'm against any limitations on gear in any game mode, my reason is easily to understand. CCP's answer to complaints about protostomping was to introduce officer gear. Be that for any reason, if you don't like it don't play it. I'll also remind you oh high sec and low sec within Eve.

THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:26:00 - [51] - Quote Back when I was new, the HP gap between a militia suit and a prototype suit was 600-800 HP. You new scrubs have it good, as it is. The enemies of God stand broken before us. The light of the Reclaiming shines over them! 12/13/14 Never forget
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 459	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:29:00 - [52] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! Lets be real here. You're not complaining about Proto Suits. You're complaining about the people in them. Nobody has ever whined or complained about that horrible dude in proto who goes 0-11. You want skill based matchmaking, which will never happen in Dust due to our HORRIFICALLY LOW PLAYERBASE. If you meta lock tiers, you will still get the ever loving bejesus stomped out of you by Advanced suits. Lowering the bar isn't the answer. If anything, they just need to nerf the cost of proto suits or increase payouts. Let everyone run the blingy toys. Proto suits are hella fun with their versatility and fitting power. I would love to see more matches of full proto. When i refer to meta lock i mean all Basic, all militia. So no, people coming in with Adv gear wouldn't happen. This would aide newberries more so than people in full vet squads stomping with officer gear. It really is that simple. In response to those saying the populous is too low I say no it isn't and if I were incorrect the player base has done this to itself.
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 448	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:45:00 - [53] - Quote Have fun with tanks
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:54:00 - [54] - Quote Or you could just delete sub-proto gear. Why do we even have it? How does crappy POS gear on the cheap enhance the game in a meaningful capacity? Vertical mobility on a power scale? Pfff. Cool. You get the same thing, but better. Whoo. Fun gameplay. Whoo. My new gun does 1.23 more damage per shot, and 20 more DPS. Whoo. That's fun. Delete everything and focus more on "horizontal" mobility into new gear and stuff. On, wait. Meaningful development on DUST has ceased. Maybe for the next iteration of an EVE FPS/DUST. Maybe... I am a minotaur. You are not a minotaur.
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 187	Posted - 2015.10.05 21:59:00 - [55] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Or you could just delete sub-proto gear. Why do we even have it? How does crappy POS gear on the cheap enhance the game in a meaningful capacity? Vertical mobility on a power scale? Pfff. Cool. You get the same thing, but better. Whoo. Fun gameplay. Whoo. My new gun does 1.23 more damage per shot, and 20 more DPS. Whoo. That's fun. Delete everything and focus more on "horizontal" mobility into new gear and stuff. On, wait. Meaningful development on DUST has ceased. Maybe for the next iteration of an EVE FPS/DUST. Maybe... We have to understand CCP is constantly working. If they didn't care, why would they continue to introduce new hotfixes? They also aren't only working on DUST at the moment. Have patience guys. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.06 00:14:00 - [56] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Ateroith wrote: Why can't this be done? I mean, a lot of people are already complaining about games not being matched up correctly, where maybe in reality it is the power of the items comparative from one team to another. This supposedly makes the TTK's close for the suits anybody use (me being a huge MLT user), and can actually take down someone when you don't have enough ISK. And if the Dust Team looks at this and actually considers this, could you restrict every proto/officer item? Even if someone puts a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Maybe you want to keep the game in a more free kind of environment, which I have nothing against, because you guys created the game. But it is just something that I thought should be out there. Fair TTK's are great. This is why most PCs are very close and fair, because it makes more people use their strongest gear, not one team having a MLT suit because they can, and the other full proto. This is probably why people hate "unbalanced" teams, just saying. This goes out to all you cool CPM dudes out there too. Keep up the great work! Lets be real here. You're not complaining about Proto Suits. You're complaining about the people in them. Nobody has ever whined or complained about that horrible dude in proto who goes 0-11. You want skill based matchmaking, which will never happen in Dust due to our HORRIFICALLY LOW PLAYERBASE. If you meta lock tiers, you will still get the ever loving bejesus stomped out of you by Advanced suits. Lowering the bar isn't the answer. If anything, they just need to nerf the cost of proto suits or increase payouts. Let everyone run the blingy toys. Proto suits are hella fun with their versatility and fitting power. I would love to see more matches of full proto. This will be an argument that'll go on forever, but put me down for agreeing on all your points. In my opinion all the imbalanced games are more to do with the droves of players who don't contribute. Stupid daily missions, too many vehicles on one side, etc. Seriously, port it. Hurry
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 108	Posted - 2015.10.06 00:47:00 - [57] - Quote People running ADV aren't as overwhelming as Proto, You can feel the difference in battle. So please remove Proto(and above)from Pubs. Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
Ateroith Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 192	Posted - 2015.10.06 00:53:00 - [58] - Quote Loyal Glasses wrote: People running ADV aren't as overwhelming as Proto, You can feel the difference in battle. So please remove Proto(and above)from Pubs. Lol thanks for agreeing with me "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 25	Posted - 2015.10.06 00:56:00 - [59] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Or you could just delete sub-proto gear. Why do we even have it? How does crappy POS gear on the cheap enhance the game in a meaningful capacity? Vertical mobility on a power scale? Pfff. Cool. You get the same thing, but better. Whoo. Fun gameplay. Whoo. My new gun does 1.23 more damage per shot, and 20 more DPS. Whoo. That's fun. Delete everything and focus more on "horizontal" mobility into new gear and stuff. On, wait. Meaningful development on DUST has ceased. Maybe for the next iteration of an EVE FPS/DUST. Maybe... Yep there's a reason that CCP did their whole tiericide thing in Eve.


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