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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:13:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer.
It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:29:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Thumb Green wrote:I was thinking this earlier. I'm sure it'd still be one side stomping the other but I rather just get my ass kicked than have my d!ck kicked in. It'd just make pubs overall better; sure most of us will still be getting those lvl 5 bonuses but they're less of an advantage on advance and less than they are on proto & officer. It's true skills are less of an advantage, but they're really not insignificant. I fail to see how less of an advantage is the same as insignificant (I've personally been one to state how most people underestimate the impact skills have). Anyways, here's a simple solution to the lvl 5 problem, make only up to lvl 3 of a skill apply. Of course there's still the advantage, like how I've got prof in some weapons and others don't but then that's part of the point of the game. It's not nearly as bad as a full blown vet going balls to the walls in proto/officer with lvl 5 everything while still maintaining the progression aspect of the game. Otherwise we might as well just make pubs automatically apply lvl5 for everything to everyone; honestly I wouldn't be apposed to that and even as far as having pubs not use up fits. A little care bearish but fck, if that's what it takes for the game to grow then I'm all for it. Hell, now that I think about it, that's kind of what we fcking need, a goddamn high sec, sh!t EVE"s got it and it's a relativity safe area, why the fck doesn't Dust? make pubs high sec and leave FW & PC as null for the HTFU crowd.
Sorry I did kinda put words in your mouth there. It's been an emotional day for me. Whether it's lvl 0 or lvl 5, I'm very much for some sort of skill (SP) equalization in pubs. Add to that a limit to the tier of your gear or stat equalization on gear, and Dust might have a chance at hanging on to a lot more new players than it currently does.
BTW, I did some numbers regarding the difference that tiers have.
EDIT: TLDR on the numbers is Skills alone = 30%, ADV gear = 55%, PRO = 93%. Comparing the difference from skills alone to ADV (25%) , and skills alone to PRO (63%), my guess is that CCP never intended PRO to be used in pubs at all. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.05 07:14:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:
Well to be fair, I'm glad you put words in my mouth, otherwise I wouldn't have thought to further clarify my position. Whether or not CCP intended for proto to be used in pubs they did originally intend for it to be rarely used. I'm sure they knew that some players would be able to afford to use it in pubs but it certainly wasn't meant to be spammed as if it were basic and officer was meant to only be used in battles that actually mattered like PC's instead of being thrown around like candy.
So I'm guessing you've been around a fair bit longer than me, what do you think are the chances that the stat equalization idea could get any traction with the CPM? |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.06 00:56:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Or you could just delete sub-proto gear.
Why do we even have it? How does crappy POS gear on the cheap enhance the game in a meaningful capacity? Vertical mobility on a power scale? Pfff. Cool. You get the same thing, but better. Whoo. Fun gameplay. Whoo. My new gun does 1.23 more damage per shot, and 20 more DPS. Whoo. That's fun.
Delete everything and focus more on "horizontal" mobility into new gear and stuff.
On, wait. Meaningful development on DUST has ceased. Maybe for the next iteration of an EVE FPS/DUST. Maybe...
Yep there's a reason that CCP did their whole tiericide thing in Eve. |
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