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Galvatrona Death Merchants Inc. 6	Posted - 2015.09.06 01:19:00 - [1] - Quote Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank?
Radiant Pancake3 Destinys Immortals 968	Posted - 2015.09.06 01:27:00 - [2] - Quote Words... Rejected by Dreis Min Loyalist
Robert Conway Concordiat Mercenaries 658	Posted - 2015.09.06 01:41:00 - [3] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Words... Which words? The good kind, or the bad kind? Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1	Posted - 2015.09.06 01:55:00 - [4] - Quote Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.09.06 02:15:00 - [5] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Actually... if you play EvE, they have ways implemented to avoid the theft of vehicles if you are just transferring between them. Dust is the only place that doesn't. Imagine if you could steal vehicles straight from the ports in highsec space. You park it, to do something, and it gets yanked while buying from a menu. Even corps in EvE get special lockdown conditions for who can and cannot take ships from the docks, limited to same corp members. They even have a "safe logoff" feature to protect your ship in the middle of a zone... http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Chosokabe Ite Shields Of The State 107	Posted - 2015.09.06 02:58:00 - [6] - Quote Simple locking would help. The option to make the vehicle inoperable by anyone but you. They can still get in and ride as a gunner or passenger but they can't take command of your vehicle. Unlocking could be done remotely through a d-pad menu. Select the vehicle and select Lock or Unlock(or possibly Recall as well).
Clotheshanger Abortion Y0UTHINASIA 7	Posted - 2015.09.06 03:18:00 - [7] - Quote Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Lol dont tank.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.06 03:23:00 - [8] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Lol dont tank. Yeah, what he said. Why not just join the tryhard nunk heads and just keep spamming boring vanilla infantry FOTM? Stop with the interesting stuff that adds any flavor to the game. Why tank when your team needs that fifth heavy with an HMG or that umpteenth logi repping said heavy? Good lord how do you think your team will win if they don't have you firing on all four scrub cylinders? CPM RESULTS SUMMERIZED
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 422	Posted - 2015.09.06 03:42:00 - [9] - Quote I have many thoughts and emotions about this, I went crazy when someone shot me and stole my incubus. I do think there should be some sort of ability to lock your tank. I also was thinking of remote controlled ejector seats and self destruct modules that would also increase the hack time for your tank. As well as the option to punish there should an option to punish and lock vehicles. I am glad someone is murdering tankers, the same way as I am glad some people pester snipers. If I was a better man I would feel empathy for someone that are treated unfairly but I just have a laugh instead.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.09.06 04:04:00 - [10] - Quote Fool me once shame on you Fool me twice shame on me Fool me thr... wait Three times clearly you should evaluate your intelligence.

Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.09.06 04:15:00 - [11] - Quote Duna hopped out of his tank today to hunt me out of a hiding place. I won the gun fight and hacked his tank. That thing was awesome. I had no idea how to work any if it and blew it up. He went 21-1. I went 5-3. I celebrate whenever a tank blows up. Red or blue. There are four main races in DUST514: The Amarr, bla, bla, and bla.
Galvatrona Death Merchants Inc. 8	Posted - 2015.09.06 04:32:00 - [12] - Quote I wonder Ben are you also a team killing tank thief? I shoulden't have to worry about some butt hurt team mate chasing me back beyond the spawn point in our own redline. It would be nice to have a punishment option in vehicles to punish a vehicle thief. Any one that's not your squad mate gets kicked from the vehicle and the doors are locked. It would be like reactivating the initial squad door locks that's on the vehicle when its spawned. If a squad member sees your tank comes rolling up, she/he gets in, now pop the lock so she/he can bring it back. In the case of a drop ship an eject and return to base would be nice, if you called it in the redline at one of the base zones. Call it a type of auto pilot.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 369	Posted - 2015.09.06 15:09:00 - [13] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Actually... if you play EvE, they have ways implemented to avoid the theft of vehicles if you are just transferring between them. Dust is the only place that doesn't. Imagine if you could steal vehicles straight from the ports in highsec space. You park it, to do something, and it gets yanked while buying from a menu. Even corps in EvE get special lockdown conditions for who can and cannot take ships from the docks, limited to same corp members. They even have a "safe logoff" feature to protect your ship in the middle of a zone... Pilots have been asking for this feature in dust forever and it gets shrugged off. Just give me a timer so that for 30 minutes anyone other that corp mates or squad mates can't get in my vehicle. Problem solved.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.06 15:20:00 - [14] - Quote If you were using tanks for two years, you'd be far more angry at the history of vehicles compared to now, than being TK'd and having one stolen. PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.06 15:22:00 - [15] - Quote Chosokabe Ite wrote: Simple locking would help. The option to make the vehicle inoperable by anyone but you. They can still get in and ride as a gunner or passenger but they can't take command of your vehicle. Unlocking could be done remotely through a d-pad menu. Select the vehicle and select Lock or Unlock(or possibly Recall as well). Pilots have been asking for that for at least two years. Since it's not been implemented yet, it's not going to happen at all. Entirely deliberate move by CCP. PS3 is back in its box.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 14	Posted - 2015.09.06 17:01:00 - [16] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I celebrate whenever a tank blows up. Red or blue. ^
hn617 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 34	Posted - 2015.09.06 18:37:00 - [17] - Quote Feels like when friendly tanks purposely run over my dropships. I don't drop any ships near blues anymore.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1	Posted - 2015.09.06 19:24:00 - [18] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Actually... if you play EvE, they have ways implemented to avoid the theft of vehicles if you are just transferring between them. Dust is the only place that doesn't. Imagine if you could steal vehicles straight from the ports in highsec space. You park it, to do something, and it gets yanked while buying from a menu. Even corps in EvE get special lockdown conditions for who can and cannot take ships from the docks, limited to same corp members. They even have a "safe logoff" feature to protect your ship in the middle of a zone... I am well aware of this. I just logged back into EvE today and my Mackinaw is still safe though when I disconnected last I was in low-sec. Thing is this is a QQ thread about what sounds like a sabatoge/betrayal which is one of the core elements of New Eden in general. So OP needsnto HTFU. Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.06 19:26:00 - [19] - Quote Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? 1-@$$hole players 2- don't run FW 3- if you do, suck it up because there are #1 players. CEO of T-W-L
Clotheshanger Abortion Y0UTHINASIA 8	Posted - 2015.09.06 20:35:00 - [20] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Lol dont tank. Yeah, what he said. Why not just join the tryhard nunk heads and just keep spamming boring vanilla infantry FOTM? Stop with the interesting stuff that adds any flavor to the game. Why tank when your team needs that fifth heavy with an HMG or that umpteenth logi repping said heavy? Good lord how do you think your team will win if they don't have you firing on all four scrub cylinders? You aren't doing jack sht sitting in a big metal box (in the redline), during a skirm, and shooting at red CRUs, Depots, and Blasters. You are as big a pssy as redline snipers. If you dont like FOTM, dont run it. Make an interesting drop suit fit. Those five heavies and 5 logis are doing more for the team than you are, I guarantee.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2015.09.07 01:50:00 - [21] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Yeah, what he said. Why not just join the tryhard nunk heads and just keep spamming boring vanilla infantry FOTM? Stop with the interesting stuff that adds any flavor to the game. Why tank when your team needs that fifth heavy with an HMG or that umpteenth logi repping said heavy? Good lord how do you think your team will win if they don't have you firing on all four scrub cylinders? You must be a scout .?. I have been in matches where 7 out of 16 played scout , I see more scouts in-game then anything else now I guess I became touchy when I saw logistic and heavy mentioned but don't fool yourself , I know you were being sarcastic and was in favor of vehicles and adding flavor to the mix but be honest about the mix on field , most games I see scouts more then anything . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2015.09.07 01:55:00 - [22] - Quote @OP , anytime your calling a vehicle in a FW match , do it away from anyone and in a area where you won't get ambushed by the enemy as well as team mates and you really have to think about you more then team in a FW because your team mates could kill you , they will and take your vehicles as well as sabotage the match , you have to look out for you so you can help the team . You'll be alright if you learn from your mistakes and just don't fall into a false sense of trust because everyone on your team might not be looking out for you and the team . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.07 09:47:00 - [23] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Lol dont tank. Yeah, what he said. Why not just join the tryhard nunk heads and just keep spamming boring vanilla infantry FOTM? Stop with the interesting stuff that adds any flavor to the game. Why tank when your team needs that fifth heavy with an HMG or that umpteenth logi repping said heavy? Good lord how do you think your team will win if they don't have you firing on all four scrub cylinders? You aren't doing jack sht sitting in a big metal box (in the redline), during a skirm, and shooting at red CRUs, Depots, and Blasters. You are as big a pssy as redline snipers. If you dont like FOTM, dont run it. Make an interesting drop suit fit. Those five heavies and 5 logis are doing more for the team than you are, I guarantee. Yeah, making the game boring, predictable and simple minded. CPM RESULTS SUMMERIZED
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.09.07 09:50:00 - [24] - Quote Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Galvatrona Death Merchants Inc. 9	Posted - 2015.09.07 12:35:00 - [25] - Quote On the note of team sabatoge I wonder why you get kicked from matches from either killing your own teammates or doing to much friendly damage. With this said I believe the team sabatoge idea is moot as you get kicked from battle for it. Same note "YOU ARE A MERC" being paid for a contract to fight the enemy, woulden't it be a great move if you didn't get paid at all if you do friendly damage and not find out until the end of the match. I see it as don't kick him let them keep being dicks on their own dollar, why would anyone pay someone for not doing the work they were contracted to do. I've been tanking from the beginning of dust, so I do know the plight of vehicles from the start. Back when they reset dropsuit SP I spent all of it towards vehicles, at the time there wasn't a skill reset option in game. The only dropsuit in my list were blueprint suits with blueprint modules just to ride the tank. The refrence to being a redline tank is offensive as its probably one of those people who get smoked by my basic, blueprint loaded, basic blaster tank that goes to your redline to wreck your proto tank. Not to mention killing reds along the way to my target. With all level 5 skills in tanking excluding only extra ammo (pointless unless your using a missile turret) and rotation (who needs max rotation unless you suck and can't remember your targets direction when she/he runs you over with the ram technique). There is no need to destroy supply depots unless your supposed #1 players suck so bad they can't take the depot back from the reds who are killing them with hand guns as they are holding forge guns and swarm launchers. Now I see no valid excuse for not being able to kill a commando holding a swarm launcher, he's only got 1 light weapon and the reason of "he's got 2 full light weapon clips to fire at me" is no longer valid, now if he gets close enough to kill you with a melee from the swarm launcher it may be time to play something other than a FPS. I don't waste my time destroying CRU's unless my tean totally sucks and I want to slow down the reds spawn timer and I get my 50 points (Joke points for something that takes too much ammo and time to destroy thats why its pointless). I only do this after I have ran out with 3 tanks and lost them at the cost of a little less than 100k (blueprint tank parts save cost) a tank. I compare the cost equal to around the cost of 2 loaded proto suits. I have done my job at this point, 1 gotten reds into suits that have av grenades and anti-vehicle main weapons. 2 dragged a part of the team back to their side of the map for them to help thier own teams tank to down me. 3 taken out any blaster turrets blocking infantry advancement. 4 gone to the objective(s) and removed any of the droplinks I can find. 5 drop my own uplinks outside of reds scanner range to allow my blues to advance from a different direction (yes they are Vizam Flux links to get as many out as fast as possible for the least cost, yes the uplink does fall under my cost for a tank). After these 5 steps the blues don't get their lazy asses off our redline I switch to a rail tank eat the loss on my 250-300k and make points safely from the redline where the lazy blues can get caught first. Some matches the reds don't have enough fire power to down my tank and then not care about me to just get kills from the rookie players on my team. I down a few turrets freely then roll up on the reds at my redline for a good old fasioned turkey shoot. when they retreat for anti vehicle weapons O go back to their redline and wait to see if someones gonna let me wreck them in a tank. Yess I am that ******* tanker waiting at your redline to wreck your stuff before it even gets past your redline, I don't wreck droping tanks, takes too much ammo and I'd rather have fun in a fair fight with another tanker. The funnest is when someone trys a proto setup agains my basic setup and they can't get the upper hand I usually just toy with them like a cat with a mouse before I lay waste to their tank. Lavs on the other hand can be made into suicide lavs and don't require that much ammo, pop easy 40 points. This is not thread about or for infantry, its a VEHICLE thread, not for whining about redline tankers. I do my part to help the infantry either with 2 spare leather seats and a CRU, or speedy uplinks if I don't have an onboard CRU. It is a tread about FW vehicle thieft and or door locks or the lack of locking ability.
Darken-Sol Darken's Forge and Trade 2	Posted - 2015.09.07 12:39:00 - [26] - Quote Dont use what you cant afford to lose. We used to teach the pups that at the orientation level. Crush them
Jack Boost Zarena Family 938	Posted - 2015.09.07 13:27:00 - [27] - Quote They NEVER take my pod... (never?) EvE side... Not much time left...
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 949	Posted - 2015.09.07 13:29:00 - [28] - Quote TO BATTLE!
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.09.07 13:31:00 - [29] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Actually... if you play EvE, they have ways implemented to avoid the theft of vehicles if you are just transferring between them. Dust is the only place that doesn't. Imagine if you could steal vehicles straight from the ports in highsec space. You park it, to do something, and it gets yanked while buying from a menu. Even corps in EvE get special lockdown conditions for who can and cannot take ships from the docks, limited to same corp members. They even have a "safe logoff" feature to protect your ship in the middle of a zone... I am well aware of this. I just logged back into EvE today and my Mackinaw is still safe though when I disconnected last I was in low-sec. Thing is this is a QQ thread about what sounds like a sabatoge/betrayal which is one of the core elements of New Eden in general. So OP needs to HTFU. What you said is Using ones own resources to damage another. --taking a tank does not fall in this. Swindling players out of items by using information and game mechanics. -- you don't swindle at all, so basically this isn't even close to what you are claiming. Can you in EvE--- float up to an occupied ship, and take it while the user is in a menu? NO. Why not? Because it would take no effort to do. Which is basically what is happening here. They don't even have to hack the tank to gain access, they just force the owner into a menu (in this case the redeploy menu), and take the tank. Imagine if I could walk up to you ingame, click a single button, and steal your entire dropsuit loadout, leaving you with the base 10 hp and no weapons of any kind. You'd immediately complain that everyone keeps stealing your suits. Why isn't this possible? It's New Eden right? Wrong... Clearly you understand little to nothing about the courtesies and tactics of what is permitted and what is not within New Eden. Everything you can do to get an advantage or any of the "affects" you mentioned in your post require the player to get themselves into a position in which the event is then possible. You cannot do 90% of what you claimed from a neutral position. You can shoot down a ship to claim it, yes, but most of the modules and components will shatter along with the ship, as well as you need something to aid in your salvage, which means preparation. With a tank, nothing is harmed. Hence it is not even comparable to the EvE side of things. A lock would then suddenly make sense, because you would have to be within a position of capability, such as a direct squad member, in order to steal the tank. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Galvatrona Death Merchants Inc. 9	Posted - 2015.09.07 14:49:00 - [30] - Quote Thank you Dovallis, eve players shoulden't be comparing their ships to tanks or vehicles unless the same call in/drop off features are used. It would be different if eve pilots had to call in ships to open space and shuttle to it to claim it when showing up to battle. the complain would go a little like this maybe "I called in a new ship and these pirates on my own team destroyed my shuttle before I could get to the ship and now they are riding around in my ship and before the battle ended they crashed it into the closest planet, aww my ship." I do believe you show up to battle in your ship right, we deploy to battle ready in our clones why can't we deploy/show up to battle in our vehicles. In dust vehicles do receive a diminish in some stats when the driver is not the owner. This also making the vehicle less survivable on the battle field, but this doesn't matter in the case that she/he is going to drive it to a redline and let it get destroyed. Now being able to afford the items I lose wasn't what the thread is about if you can't read or understand the thread topic I suggest getting a thesaurus to help you understand the concept of team theift. I do seem to like the idea of being able to steal your dropsuit if you are 1 just spawning and I see your shadow and step into it or 2 if your stupid enough to stand at a supply depot with out back up, again I could just shoot you in the back and select a free suit to use out of your assets. (sounds pretty stupid right) A god option would be to have an option in the vehicles that if your tank is being driven by someone other than you, you'd be able to use the new option to take payment from their wallet for the cost of the Vehicle. Some people use aurum parts on their vehicles and we get paid daily aurum that would pay these costs.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.07 15:26:00 - [31] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.07 15:30:00 - [32] - Quote hn617 wrote: Feels like when friendly tanks purposely run over my dropships. I don't drop any ships near blues anymore. When I played the game, I didn't bring in dropships near friendlies. PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.07 15:31:00 - [33] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Lol dont tank. Yeah, what he said. Why not just join the tryhard nunk heads and just keep spamming boring vanilla infantry FOTM? Stop with the interesting stuff that adds any flavor to the game. Why tank when your team needs that fifth heavy with an HMG or that umpteenth logi repping said heavy? Good lord how do you think your team will win if they don't have you firing on all four scrub cylinders? You aren't doing jack sht sitting in a big metal box (in the redline), during a skirm, and shooting at red CRUs, Depots, and Blasters. You are as big a pssy as redline snipers. If you dont like FOTM, dont run it. Make an interesting drop suit fit. Those five heavies and 5 logis are doing more for the team than you are, I guarantee. Another person saying to stop doing something different and stick with the status quo. PS3 is back in its box.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:01:00 - [34] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:15:00 - [35] - Quote The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:48:00 - [36] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. Are you saying it's better to post constructive ideas in Features and Ideas than to just post complaint rants in GD? Real CPM Platform
Sylwester Dziewiecki 493	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:59:00 - [37] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. You are funny man ;). G Speed Scout. MM Logi/Assault. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Tebu Gan 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.09.07 17:49:00 - [38] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. 9/10 Good troll!
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.09.07 18:24:00 - [39] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. Are you saying it's better to post constructive ideas in Features and Ideas than to just post complaint rants in GD? No, he's saying that spamming might be the key, but i don't believe it's true, i've seen countless post about vehicle locks. The only effect is a 15sec lock for non squad member that is worst than have nothing at all. Regressed to blueberry level.
Dried ShadowBeaver Nos Nothi 93	Posted - 2015.09.07 20:02:00 - [40] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. Touch my beaver tail. Go on. Touch it.

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.09.07 20:12:00 - [41] - Quote Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. Its Spkr. It is not like he is talking to a human being. If Spkr could perhaps manage to be a rational person, I might agree, but come on, there is a reason for the term "Going full Spkr." Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 657	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:17:00 - [42] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. ^^^^ So much of this GF-FA-NF // *LOGi GOD* // Master of Healers // Lord of War Points Badger Rager is my #1 Fan
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:38:00 - [43] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. I don't even use vehicles but this post pissed me off even with the edited part. Like its only been two years people have been asking for this. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:51:00 - [44] - Quote Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:56:00 - [45] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:57:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' Ditto "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 625	Posted - 2015.09.07 23:34:00 - [47] - Quote GÇª. There are still canyons and canyons of lessons to learn before players (especially the new and the over-eager players who time and time again insist on playing this game like just the ordinary fps scoot-n-blast games they just left),GÇª understand the now-fundemental differences about playing a EVE-style game. EVE games practically advertise themselves as "a character living out a career". These games are not war-shooters at all. They are invitations for massive amounts of players to socialize/interact with each other while trying to build abilities, assets, wealth, and commerce-through-war. The games endorse and push betrayal, ambush, lies, tricksGÇª. all in a lifetime's work. STEALING is a key part of that socializing/interacting. (I don't play EVE-Online, but sometimes I think the only reason why EVE players don't have their ships stolen--and Dust players do-- is because, LOL, Dust players are allowed to walk around freely near other people's propertyGÇªand EVE players literally can't "walk" beyond the end of the gantry from their own living quarters.) The devs won't patronize us by "addressing this problem", because in their eyes I don't THINK it is viewed as a problem, just another in a long list of "acts of carelessness" committed by repeatedly stubborn or uneducated or forgetful players. I am nowhere near the brightest bulb in this game, nowhere near an adequate marksman, nowhere near a vet-skill tacticianGÇª But I have enough EVE-sense to know how to avoid calling RDVs smack in the midst of blues I don't even know, not to exit my vehicles when random blues are approaching, be ready to react if a fellow blue turns out to have malicious motives in my FW matches, and NOT DROP MY GUARD when playing an Eve game. GÇªOther fps games you can name don't have this issue (or have fought to remove this issue)GÇª because those games aren't EVE. And they don't take place in an EVE player world that's created right down to the Lore with "friends stealing and killing friends". Understanding that in this game there is infiltration, paid-betrayal, paid sabotage of your FW match, impulse-theft and hijacking, and double-crosses in your ISK deals,GÇª and that callous Eve-Dust 514 (offspring of nefarious EVE-Online) has NEVER been primarily about "scouting-n-blasting stuff",GÇª is the first basic tutorial many players need to learnGÇª and unfortunately the last tutorial lesson that will sink into our heads. Hey, MY suggestion for a "fix to this problem", is that the devs put "Strategy Skill Manuals" for sale on the Marketplace. You buy one, because it's just like a Skillbook. It gives you 5% increase in movement/stamina, and it opens a text in your menu that explains WHAT DUST IS REALLY ABOUT, and not what unaware players THINK the game is about. I'm not being sarcastic, my suggestion is serious. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 67	Posted - 2015.09.08 00:38:00 - [48] - Quote I only roll with militia tanks... If somebody wants to TK me and take that into FW battle, good luck to them...
Balts Xryiel Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 13	Posted - 2015.09.08 05:46:00 - [49] - Quote And this is why i spent my point on swarm launchers so i can destroy vehichels with ease -One does not just RE a Heavy-
Sned TheDead Failures inc. 768	Posted - 2015.09.08 07:09:00 - [50] - Quote Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. snorts, and grabs popcorn MUSIC! Sned T. Dead

Genral69 death RAT PATROL INC. 705	Posted - 2015.09.08 09:14:00 - [51] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Dont use what you cant afford to lose. We used to teach the pups that at the orientation level. Valid point , but if I was to go down I'd rather it be by my own accord and not some blue dot driving into a instal https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:01:00 - [52] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. You speak of all this vehicle experience you "had," yet have no idea as to how they actually handled. That told me all I needed to know about your opinion on vehicles. Literally not backed up by anything. PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:02:00 - [53] - Quote Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. It's never professional for someone to say "I'm right and you're wrong because my spreadsheets outweigh your PC experience in tanks." PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:03:00 - [54] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. What vehicles? Aw, you're so cute when you try to be clever. Your unprofessionalism is showing. Its Spkr. It is not like he is talking to a human being. If Spkr could perhaps manage to be a rational person, I might agree, but come on, there is a reason for the term "Going full Spkr." Love all these petty insults, yet nobody can actually come up with rebuttals to what I say. PS3 is back in its box.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:04:00 - [55] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' No, they voted in another yes-man. Gotta keep that infantry-only status quo going. If I cared and played anymore, I may have run for CPM. Not like I'd get elected, because who wants a vehicle representative when pilots are such a small (but nevertheless existent) part of the community? PS3 is back in its box.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:34:00 - [56] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' No, they voted in another yes-man. Gotta keep that infantry-only status quo going. If I cared and played anymore, I may have run for CPM. Not like I'd get elected, because who wants a vehicle representative when pilots are such a small (but nevertheless existent) part of the community? Not sure Breaking fits the general Yes-Man persona.....and lets be honest CPM wouldn't really suit you. You're a rather well known facet of the HAV vs AV debate that is prone to exaggeration and pressing forward a personal bias with little in the way of supporting evidence. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 04:42:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' No, they voted in another yes-man. Gotta keep that infantry-only status quo going. If I cared and played anymore, I may have run for CPM. Not like I'd get elected, because who wants a vehicle representative when pilots are such a small (but nevertheless existent) part of the community? Not sure Breaking fits the general Yes-Man persona.....and lets be honest CPM wouldn't really suit you. You're a rather well known facet of the HAV vs AV debate that is prone to exaggeration and pressing forward a personal bias with little in the way of supporting evidence. Oh yeah, prone to exaggeration. I used to march steadfastly in support of vehicles, because the community was too small. Despite so many pilots getting on here, telling infantry the deal, how to take care of us, etc, infantry still didn't listen and said "well I shouldn't have to do that because reasons." As far as supporting evidence, nobody offered to buy a capture device for me. Besides, gameplay > spreadsheets. PS3 is back in its box.
VikingKong iBUN Ancient Exiles. 532	Posted - 2015.09.09 07:36:00 - [58] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The best way to tackle this would be to post in Features and Ideas Discussion - a short, to the point post addressing the simple fact that Vehicles could use some sort of locking mechanism. Edit: of course there were many post about this before, all over the Forum, I'm aware of that. But this is how it works. Hahaha haha ha... ha... wait I'm not sure if I should be laughing or crying. I would like a Gallente SMG. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2015.09.09 12:57:00 - [59] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Not like I'd get elected . You wouldn't have gotten because you not in the " in - crowd " and a part of the " buddy system " , you can't say anything about any of these people without another of their ilk coming to their defense no matter if the person is right or wrong , part of the reason that the CPM is a joke , it's the same contingency being rotated and doing nothing with that office . Very few have actually accomplished something that had some in-game effect . CCP can't even take constructive criticism without banning people so why would they " allow " someone with a conflicting view to be appointed CPM ? Look what happened to Judge , would you really want the same ? It's just a popularity contest anyway and if you check the forums , the popular people just run their mouths and do nothing , talk about ports and ask for in-game features when the game has ran like absolute crap for it's existence , but I forgot .. it's the PS3's fault but games like Defiance has zero problems , but again ... I forgot , no one here plays or likes that game so it's not relevant . It's a joke . Do you want to be a part of that joke ? I play AV and I really can't say that you exaggerate more then most when it comes to issues , at least you actually talk about issues Spkr . You really can't care about the forums and the game at the same time . Regardless look at Rattati 's thread and you see what I mean , how many people highlighted performance issues over their own " want's " and " needs " .?. that thread should have been flooded with people highlighting performance and bug issues but again I forgot , It's the PS3's fault and a port would solve all the problems . What a joke . Many ask for a vehicle lock and still no lock , the best thing they did was add solo HAV's and I love them but these people try to guilt trip those that use them , when I see Gunnies and Maddies just riding around getting popped because their stupid turret users rode around shooting all the ammo out at the sky or the ground and then hop out when that HAV is confronted . That's some good ish right there . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.09.09 21:02:00 - [60] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: CCP can't even take constructive criticism without banning people so why would they " allow " someone with a conflicting view to be appointed CPM ? Lol. If only you knew how many times we've almost come to blows. Hasn't even been a full month yet and this post is already incredibly wrong. It's probably no coincidence that a bunch of bittervets were elected. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog

BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 155	Posted - 2015.09.09 21:11:00 - [61] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' No they voted him because like the rest in a pool of 2000 active players all they need is a 100 votes with alts to make CPM. Because in truth very few people outside of their respective corps have any real dealings with any of them. I for one don't need a foul mouthed smirking rep if that's what you imply he is. I need someone with communication skills, not smart remarks.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.09 21:15:00 - [62] - Quote My corp doesn't play anymore. I'm pretty much the only one. Been that way since the dreaded Fanfest that shall not be named. So ah... how did I get elected again? Ball's in your court. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.09.09 21:28:00 - [63] - Quote BARAGAMOS wrote: True Adamance wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dried ShadowBeaver wrote: Your unprofessionalism is showing. And? People didn't vote Breaking to CPM to be professional. They voted him in because he'll turn around without batting an eye and with a sardonic grin on his face tell you to 'shut the **** up and sit down.' No they voted him because like the rest in a pool of 2000 active players all they need is a 100 votes with alts to make CPM. Because in truth very few people outside of their respective corps have any real dealings with any of them. I for one don't need a foul mouthed smirking rep if that's what you imply he is. I need someone with communication skills, not smart remarks. Clever world play and communication skills walk hand in hand. It's funny how the CPM kinda formed the way I'd hoped it would....despite not even bothering to vote myself. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 654	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:22:00 - [64] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: My corp doesn't play anymore. I'm pretty much the only one. Been that way since the dreaded Fanfest that shall not be named. So ah... how did I get elected again? Ball's in your court. Because in the midst of all that angst, you have said enough things that made enough sense to enough people. I hate 49% of your ideas, but the other 51% hit home... and that was enough for me. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 654	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:26:00 - [65] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: CCP can't even take constructive criticism without banning people so why would they " allow " someone with a conflicting view to be appointed CPM ? Lol. If only you knew how many times we've almost come to blows. Hasn't even been a full month yet and this post is already incredibly wrong. It's probably no coincidence that a bunch of bittervets were elected. You, however, are currently the laughing stock of the daily players. Now that all that's out of the way... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 654	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:28:00 - [66] - Quote As a maxed tanker to the OP... Pattern recognition? Maybe don't rage blues in fw and they won't hunt you? You call stuff near other people!? Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
HOLY PERFECTION FINAL TRIBULATION 123	Posted - 2015.09.10 02:10:00 - [67] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: My corp doesn't play anymore. I'm pretty much the only one. Been that way since the dreaded Fanfest that shall not be named. So ah... how did I get elected again? Ball's in your court. do tell,... so how did a person of your "statue" get elected Mr. big shot. Balls in your court, your shot and don't mess up. **Wise people learn from their mistakes, the wisest person learns from others mistakes. Unfortunately i am too hard head
Denesian Morenti Horizons' Edge No Context 65	Posted - 2015.09.10 13:06:00 - [68] - Quote Chosokabe Ite wrote: Simple locking would help. The option to make the vehicle inoperable by anyone but you. They can still get in and ride as a gunner or passenger but they can't take command of your vehicle. Unlocking could be done remotely through a d-pad menu. Select the vehicle and select Lock or Unlock(or possibly Recall as well). You listening CCP? I am not a tanker, but this is a good idea. I like my raspberries melted with a side of ice cream.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 14:17:00 - [69] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: My corp doesn't play anymore. I'm pretty much the only one. Been that way since the dreaded Fanfest that shall not be named. So ah... how did I get elected again? Ball's in your court. do tell,... so how did a person of your "statue" get elected Mr. big shot. Balls in your court, your shot and don't mess up. Apparently enough people voted for me. I never made promises. Actually said I wasn't going to try and be nicer because bluntly it'd be a lie. So that means that for some reason someone actually thought I might actually do the job. I have no idea who actually voted for me overall. Just the number. But given that almost no goons had characters eligible to vote? I wasn't able to simply capture a voting block. Dennie and Cross actually are by and large percieved by the community to be solidly competent. Did the others get their votes solely in-corp? Given their acknowledged competence and performance thus far I doubt it. But very kind of you to accuse the lot of us of some kind of lobby intent on pushing the corporation agenda. Tell you what, nerd. Bring evidence of this corruptive badness. Show us proof that the CPM is here to ruin the game for everyone but their corps. If you find this evidence, I promise you. I will be VERY upset. Honestly there could be tears. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Genral69 death RAT PATROL INC. 714	Posted - 2015.09.10 14:48:00 - [70] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. do tel, how am I surrposed to shoot a blue in the face (in a domination match) in the face when he/she is in my hav/lav in the passenger seat? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 14:54:00 - [71] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. do tel, how am I surrposed to shoot a blue in the face (in a domination match) in the face when he/she is in my hav/lav in the passenger seat? The proper procedure goes as follows: Move to isolated area. Sweep area for blueberries. If blueberry is present, relocate. If blueberry follows, shoot in face with bolt pistol. Drop tank/lav. (Dropship procedure is different) If blueberry approaches, shoot blueberry in face with bolt pistol. If above procedure fails, and blueberry stole LAV and expects you to get in so he can drive, get good angle. Headshot blueberry with bolt pistol. Get in vehicle and complete mission. For dropships: Once dropship is released place 3 REs on the back of the dropship. Allow blueberry to steal. Detonate REs when blueberry is near red swarm. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Genral69 death RAT PATROL INC. 714	Posted - 2015.09.10 15:16:00 - [72] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. do tel, how am I surrposed to shoot a blue in the face (in a domination match) in the face when he/she is in my hav/lav in the passenger seat? The proper procedure goes as follows: Move to isolated area. Sweep area for blueberries. If blueberry is present, relocate. If blueberry follows, shoot in face with bolt pistol. Drop tank/lav. (Dropship procedure is different) If blueberry approaches, shoot blueberry in face with bolt pistol. If above procedure fails, and blueberry stole LAV and expects you to get in so he can drive, get good angle. Headshot blueberry with bolt pistol. Get in vehicle and complete mission. For dropships: Once dropship is released place 3 REs on the back of the dropship. Allow blueberry to steal. Detonate REs when blueberry is near red swarm. that didn't really answer my question, as the person is already in the passenger seat of hav/lav. How do I prevent someone from stealing my hav/lav once they are inside. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 15:41:00 - [73] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. do tel, how am I surrposed to shoot a blue in the face (in a domination match) in the face when he/she is in my hav/lav in the passenger seat? The proper procedure goes as follows: Move to isolated area. Sweep area for blueberries. If blueberry is present, relocate. If blueberry follows, shoot in face with bolt pistol. Drop tank/lav. (Dropship procedure is different) If blueberry approaches, shoot blueberry in face with bolt pistol. If above procedure fails, and blueberry stole LAV and expects you to get in so he can drive, get good angle. Headshot blueberry with bolt pistol. Get in vehicle and complete mission. For dropships: Once dropship is released place 3 REs on the back of the dropship. Allow blueberry to steal. Detonate REs when blueberry is near red swarm. that didn't really answer my question, as the person is already in the passenger seat of hav/lav. How do I prevent someone from stealing my hav/lav once they are inside. Drop a solo tank if you're concerned about tankjackers. Alternately... never get out of your vehicle. For LAVS drop an RE into the back compartment for the gunner. For lavs ask a buddy to shotgun the unwanted passenger. I mean hell I would do it just to do it for you. Jesus christ why do you nerds cry about this when there are methods built into the game that allow you to bypass this? I believe it's called a marduk and the caldari SHAV. Whatever that name is that I never see ever. A little situational awareness and calling the right vehicles solves the problem usually. Alternately just shoot blue dots who try to run up and jump in. Or drive over them. If your vehicle is getting stolen by a passenger then it means you are jumping out of the vehicle. Why are you getting out of a vehicle in the battle? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 20	Posted - 2015.09.10 15:50:00 - [74] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Why are you getting out of a vehicle in the battle? That guy with the PLC/swarms isn't going to HMG himself.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 16:01:00 - [75] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Why are you getting out of a vehicle in the battle? That guy with the PLC/swarms isn't going to HMG himself. I dunno dude, have you actually SEEN how some of the blueberries fight? Pretty sure I saw a guy running around with his bolt pistol pointed in reverse trying to kill the blue scout who was cloaked in front of him. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.10 16:48:00 - [76] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Why are you getting out of a vehicle in the battle? That guy with the PLC/swarms isn't going to HMG himself. I'm surprised that you haven't seen the threads with players trying to stop this as well which in my mind is foolish , I mean ... as infantry you can defend yourself against other infantry as well as vehicles and as a vehicle operator , you should be able to defend yourself against those trying to destroy your assets , when they changed the mechanics of turrets as to make them anti-infantry and most of the time when you have players who man your turrets , they spend more time shooting at the ground and the air or other team mates and then when your HAV is confronted by opposing forces , be they infantry or other vehicles , these same magically hop out only to disappear and leave you in the lurch . I AV and I think that any tank operator that doesn't carry a vehicle rep tool , swarms , a HMG or a forge with AV grenades ... are just cheating themselves . It's just foolish not to and shows some foresight when doing so . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Genral69 death RAT PATROL INC. 714	Posted - 2015.09.10 17:44:00 - [77] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Do what I do with people who try to steal my vehicles. Shoot them in the face with a shotgun or bolt pistol. do tel, how am I surrposed to shoot a blue in the face (in a domination match) in the face when he/she is in my hav/lav in the passenger seat? The proper procedure goes as follows: Move to isolated area. Sweep area for blueberries. If blueberry is present, relocate. If blueberry follows, shoot in face with bolt pistol. Drop tank/lav. (Dropship procedure is different) If blueberry approaches, shoot blueberry in face with bolt pistol. If above procedure fails, and blueberry stole LAV and expects you to get in so he can drive, get good angle. Headshot blueberry with bolt pistol. Get in vehicle and complete mission. For dropships: Once dropship is released place 3 REs on the back of the dropship. Allow blueberry to steal. Detonate REs when blueberry is near red swarm. that didn't really answer my question, as the person is already in the passenger seat of hav/lav. How do I prevent someone from stealing my hav/lav once they are inside. Drop a solo tank if you're concerned about tankjackers. Alternately... never get out of your vehicle. For LAVS drop an RE into the back compartment for the gunner. For lavs ask a buddy to shotgun the unwanted passenger. I mean hell I would do it just to do it for you. Jesus christ why do you nerds cry about this when there are methods built into the game that allow you to bypass this? I believe it's called a marduk and the caldari SHAV. Whatever that name is that I never see ever. A little situational awareness and calling the right vehicles solves the problem usually. Alternately just shoot blue dots who try to run up and jump in. Or drive over them. If your vehicle is getting stolen by a passenger then it means you are jumping out of the vehicle. Why are you getting out of a vehicle in the battle? Yes we are given solo hav's. But that's not the problem Lets say I'm in my missle gunlogi which had 4000 shield and a cru on board . I use this hav in the situation that there's Av on the field but also as a mobile cru. I'm not bothered of blue get in, I like them to gun for me. It helps out but yet all of your suggestions imply that you can actually kill the blues and to answer your question I only get out my hav to kill Av infantry that are to close to me (eg Av made spammer) and to drop ob's. Nerds :D I see I voted for the right person https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 22:49:00 - [78] - Quote Unfortunately if you run an mcru, vehicle locks aren't going to help you. There is only so much ccp is likely to do. Giving you a way to always avoid getting screwed by "allies" is one of those things that is not part of the new eden theme. There will not be a perfect prevention for tank theft unless something drastically changes. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.09.10 22:56:00 - [79] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: My corp doesn't play anymore. I'm pretty much the only one. Been that way since the dreaded Fanfest that shall not be named. So ah... how did I get elected again? Ball's in your court. do tell,... so how did a person of your "statue" get elected Mr. big shot. Balls in your court, your shot and don't mess up. Apparently enough people voted for me. I never made promises. Actually said I wasn't going to try and be nicer because bluntly it'd be a lie. So that means that for some reason someone actually thought I might actually do the job. I have no idea who actually voted for me overall. Just the number. But given that almost no goons had characters eligible to vote? I wasn't able to simply capture a voting block. Dennie and Cross actually are by and large percieved by the community to be solidly competent. Did the others get their votes solely in-corp? Given their acknowledged competence and performance thus far I doubt it. But very kind of you to accuse the lot of us of some kind of lobby intent on pushing the corporation agenda. Tell you what, nerd. Bring evidence of this corruptive badness. Show us proof that the CPM is here to ruin the game for everyone but their corps. If you find this evidence, I promise you. I will be VERY upset. Honestly there could be tears. I didn't vote for anyone this time around but dammit Breaking this is why I would have voted for you! Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Rinzler XVII KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 347	Posted - 2015.09.11 11:22:00 - [80] - Quote Galvatrona wrote: Factional battles and spawning is why I'm writing this message. This is the third time the same person has killed me at the beginning of battle while I wait for my tank. I spawned the wrong tank at the start and backed out of the spawn area to hop out and call in the proper tank. While I wait for the drop off I started to recall my the 1st tank I was in and this guy kills me from behind, so now I have 2 tanks sitting on the ground and I have been killed by my own team member to boot. The guy steals one of the tanks and runs into battle with my own tank. All of the previous matches that he's done this in he's gotten my tank close to the end of battle and driven it into the redline somewhere as I have a missing tank at the end of battle. Knowing this I went about to destroy my own tank, tank down and still in the battle. He spawns on the map not in the redline and goes about to call in a new tank and parks it facing our redline to fire at me then ram my tank to death. I fire back and after a few shots and destroying my own tank I get kicked from battle for doing to much friendly damage. Rightly so. The first 2 times he did this to me like I said I didn't retaliate. But still lost my assets, this is why I retaliated this time. Something should be done about this tank stealing behaviour, some kind of punishment should be set up. The other idea that might work is that during factional battles 1 Being beyond the red line turns friendly fire off so that tank stealing would no longer be an issue. 2 There is a thread about tank spawning that says that we should be able to drop in in the tank in our redline from the start menu instead of spawning then calling in, besides don't the assets and clones come from the mcc? 3 making the vehicles actually have a real working squad lock that your squad leader can switch off and on. In the case that your taking 2 squads in and you know every one on the team or for Planetary Conquest you could turn it off. The default squad setting should be locked doors by default for when people want to solo play. 4 a reporting system that checks battle reports and punishes the players committing these offences, after all there are not too many good tankers out there and even fewer people penniless enough to need steal tanks. I don't know if its revenge that drives him to steal tanks or just to see what others use in them. A third thieft leads me to believe this person is butt hurt and wants to see what I run to ruin his proto tanks while I.m running a lowly basic tank not a militia, C=I class tank. Either way tank stealing should be punished and not by me destroying my own stuff and getting kicked from battle. Being killed at the beginning of battle by my own butt hurt teammate who then proceeds to directly steal my assets sucks and is very unsportsman like. Maybe after reporting it and battle report confirmation his wallet would get deducted and I'd have my assets back in my inventory, Kind of like a payment he didn't agree to after all I didn't agree to give him a free tank? Haha that's pretty funny I Fight for the User It's a shame that my user sucks at DUST



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